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Baqubah Update: 05 July 2007 [The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family]
Michael Yon ^ | 7/5/07 | Michael Yon

Posted on 07/06/2007 7:22:22 AM PDT by bnelson44

At first, he said, they would only target Shia, but over time the new al Qaeda directed attacks against Sunni, and then anyone who thought differently. The official reported that on a couple of occasions in Baqubah, al Qaeda invited to lunch families they wanted to convert to their way of thinking. In each instance, the family had a boy, he said, who was about 11-years-old. As LT David Wallach interpreted the man’s words, I saw Wallach go blank and silent. He stopped interpreting for a moment. I asked Wallach, “What did he say?” Wallach said that at these luncheons, the families were sat down to eat. And then their boy was brought in with his mouth stuffed. The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family. ...

The people were jubilant. None of the kids–and by the end of the day there were hundreds–asked me for anything, other than to take their photos. These were not the kids-made-brats by well-meaning soldiers, but polite Iraqi kids in situ, and the cameras were like a roller coaster ride for them. The kids didn’t care much for the video; they wanted still photos taken. While the kids were trying to get me to photograph them, it was as if the roller coaster was cranking and popping up the tracks, but when I finally turned the camera on them–snap! –it was as if the rollercoaster had crested the apex and slipped into the thrill of gravity. Of course, once the ride ended, it only made some clamor for more. Iraqi kids that have not been spoiled by handouts are the funniest I have seen anywhere....

(Excerpt) Read more at michaelyon-online.com ...


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1 posted on 07/06/2007 7:22:26 AM PDT by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44

BTTT.


2 posted on 07/06/2007 7:26:20 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: bnelson44
The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family. ...

The people were jubilant.......

Not the best excerpting I have ever seen:

3 posted on 07/06/2007 7:26:26 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: bnelson44

This can’t be true....but then I wouldn’t put much past those people.


4 posted on 07/06/2007 7:27:40 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Speaking through an American interpreter, Lieutenant David Wallach who is a native Arabic speaker, the Iraqi official related how al Qaeda united these gangs who then became absorbed into “al Qaeda.” They recruited boys born during the years 1991, 92 and 93 who were each given weapons, including pistols, a bicycle and a phone (with phone cards paid) and a salary of $100 per month, all courtesy of al Qaeda. These boys were used for kidnapping, torturing and murdering people.

At first, he said, they would only target Shia, but over time the new al Qaeda directed attacks against Sunni, and then anyone who thought differently. The official reported that on a couple of occasions in Baqubah, al Qaeda invited to lunch families they wanted to convert to their way of thinking. In each instance, the family had a boy, he said, who was about 11-years-old. As LT David Wallach interpreted the man’s words, I saw Wallach go blank and silent. He stopped interpreting for a moment. I asked Wallach, “What did he say?” Wallach said that at these luncheons, the families were sat down to eat. And then their boy was brought in with his mouth stuffed. The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family.


5 posted on 07/06/2007 7:29:17 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: bnelson44

I’m not having stuffed anything for lunch now.


6 posted on 07/06/2007 7:32:05 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: mockingbyrd

Yes, I agree that this might be one of those sick Islamic urban legends. There are so many, and this follows the pattern.

I’d require more evidence to declare this as truth.

I’m not saying al Qaeda isn’t capable of such an act - or that past evidence doesn’t support them doing such a thing - I just think it is hyperbole.


7 posted on 07/06/2007 7:33:34 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bnelson44

Pure. Evil.


8 posted on 07/06/2007 7:34:18 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: bnelson44

Am I reading this right? Al Qaieda had the family commit cannibalism? And these people don’t deserve to be taken out and shot to death?!?!?!


9 posted on 07/06/2007 7:35:17 AM PDT by benjibrowder
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To: SE Mom

These are the people to whom Democrats want to hand over control of the Middle East.


10 posted on 07/06/2007 7:36:18 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: bnelson44

does not make sense, I really doubt this is true.


11 posted on 07/06/2007 7:36:48 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: mockingbyrd

Did you pursue the link?

In a village that was purged by al Qaeda, Iraqi troops working with US troops were digging up tortured bodies. There is a photo of a mat covered with the severed heads of children.

Why would you not believe al Qaeda capable of such cruelty? I have read about this same technique used by a now defunct guerrilla group operating in Afrtica.


12 posted on 07/06/2007 7:38:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: bolobaby

This is a good example of how things get distorted. I’ve heard this from several sources in the region. The story is true up until the part where the child is baked and presumably eaten. In these cases AQ will sit the family down and then bring out the oldest child, usually a male and slice his throat in front of his family if they don’t “convert” If they do convert the child is then conscripted anyway.


13 posted on 07/06/2007 7:40:14 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: bnelson44

The big news on the streets today is that the people of Baqubah are generally ecstatic, although many hold in reserve a serious concern that we will abandon them again. For many Iraqis, we have morphed from being invaders to occupiers to members of a tribe. I call it the “al Ameriki tribe,” or “tribe America.”


14 posted on 07/06/2007 7:40:33 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: bnelson44

This story stops too short. How did the family react? Did they eat their son? Were they angry? How can you tell part of the story and not the rest?


15 posted on 07/06/2007 7:45:47 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: silverleaf

It’s just hard to believe that anyone could be so barbaric, although, I know intellectually that Al Aqaeda is capable, after looking at the pictures of those children....what human could do such a thing?


16 posted on 07/06/2007 7:48:48 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: silverleaf
"I have read about this same technique used by a now defunct guerrilla group operating in Afrtica."

And would that be the Mao-Mao...?

Barak Obamarama's father was an official in that terrorist organization?

17 posted on 07/06/2007 7:49:02 AM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: bolobaby

Saddam’s Son fed his enemys to Lions...
Hitlers SS made lamp shades from human skin...

why is this so hard to believe?

when man gets so depraved, and reaches the bottom of the depths of his ability to commit Sin...this is what you get.

They are the Servants of Satan.

China would send a bill for the bullet used to exicute Prisoners to their familys...


18 posted on 07/06/2007 7:49:06 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: bolobaby

Then get your happy @ss over there to disprove Michael Yon’s story.


19 posted on 07/06/2007 7:52:56 AM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: bnelson44

Why this is not broadcast 24/7 is unfathomable...such sick, twisted, evil...I don’t have the words


20 posted on 07/06/2007 7:52:57 AM PDT by FlashBack (WoundedWarriorProject.Org)
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To: bolobaby

Totally agree with you....urban legend possiblity. Islam is horrible enough without legends.


21 posted on 07/06/2007 7:53:56 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Coleus; wagglebee; KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; ...

ping


22 posted on 07/06/2007 7:54:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bnelson44
Don't miss reading this other article by Michael Yon Bless the Beasts and Children
23 posted on 07/06/2007 8:05:53 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: SFC Chromey

Don’t take that tone of “voice” with me, SFC. I’ve got 13 years on infantry experience under my belt and would have gladly gone to Iraq instead of that grabasstic homeland security deployment they sent me on after 9-11.

In fact, I was primed to go to SFAS immediately after 9-11, but then my company commander withheld my recommendation letter because of the deployment. Quote: “You’re the best NCO I have and I need every man on this deployment... blah blah blah...” Song and dance.

On my Noble Eagle deployment, I met the woman of my dreams and had to make some hard choices. Continuing to pursue SFAS would have meant leaving her behind.

I miss the army every day. Anyone who knows me, knows that’s not just lip service.

So, pardon my skepticism, but see the post #13 by Shaun_MD. That seems more like it.


24 posted on 07/06/2007 8:08:50 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it isn’t possible. These people place absolute zero value on human life. When people get to that point, anything is possible.


25 posted on 07/06/2007 8:17:41 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: Shaun_MD

It doesn’t sound distorted compared to the history known of tribal war crimes.

Declassified Iraqi War Crimes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/884889/posts

Page 9 section 6


26 posted on 07/06/2007 8:20:53 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bolobaby
I agree. the Arab propensity for ... exaggeration... exceeds even the Al Qaeda propensity for brutality.
27 posted on 07/06/2007 8:21:45 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: mockingbyrd

Saddam and Sons?


28 posted on 07/06/2007 8:22:23 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Shaun_MD

I’m not saying it’s impossible either, just that I’d want further evidence that this is actually true...


29 posted on 07/06/2007 8:24:01 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Calpernia

Downloaded for later reading. Thanks!


30 posted on 07/06/2007 8:24:14 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: Shaun_MD

Hey, if we believed everything we read without the slightest hint of skepticism, we’d be democrats, right? ;-)


31 posted on 07/06/2007 8:25:00 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bnelson44
The big news on the streets today is that the people of Baqubah are generally ecstatic, although many hold in reserve a serious concern that we will abandon them again. For many Iraqis, we have morphed from being invaders to occupiers to members of a tribe. I call it the “al Ameriki tribe,” or “tribe America.”

I’ve seen this kind of progression in Mosul, out in Anbar and other places, and when I ask our military leaders if they have sensed any shift, many have said, yes, they too sense that Iraqis view us differently. In the context of sectarian and tribal strife, we are the tribe that people can—more or less and with giant caveats—rely on.

32 posted on 07/06/2007 8:25:08 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: bolobaby

True. I try to keep an open mind at all times. Trust but verify. I can understand the reluctance to believe that things like this are true. It’s so barbaric and depraved, so utterly evil and inhuman that men of good conscience can’t wrap their minds around it. It’s easier to disbelieve it than face the fact that such evil exists. The fact that it’s so difficult to accept says a great deal about the good character of people who have trouble believing it.


33 posted on 07/06/2007 8:34:25 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: bnelson44; freema

More good reporting by Michael Yon.

Whether an exageration or not, al-Qaeda is pure evil.


34 posted on 07/06/2007 8:39:16 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: spokeshave

Was thinking about RENAMO which among other depravities tossed babies in cooking pots and forced villagers to eat

DK anything about mau mau or Obama Kenyan ancestors

Idi Amin (a Brit installed despot) and Emperor Bokassa (a french installed despot) were both reknowned cannibals


35 posted on 07/06/2007 9:07:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Shaun_MD
They cut the heads off of little boys, mutilate and torture people with irons, cattle prods, etc., stuff dead bodies with grenades/explosives and handcuff unwilling suicide bombers to the steering wheels of vehicles.

Doesn't take a mental midget to figure out they are capable of serving baked Iraqi boy to influence people.

36 posted on 07/06/2007 9:12:58 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Conservatives are educated. Liberals are indoctrinated.)
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To: Shaun_MD

I have read something like this allegation before, some months ago.

If I remember right, the boy was trussed as for roasting and his mouth stuffed, but not killed, yet.

Mrs VS


37 posted on 07/06/2007 9:13:35 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: VeniVidiVici

Yes they are perfectly capable. They are also capable of instituting a global holocaust that would make the Nazis look like cubs couts if they have their way. The terrifying reality is that many people don’t realize it. (yet)


38 posted on 07/06/2007 9:19:20 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: WashingtonSource; bnelson44
This story stops too short. How did the family react? Did they eat their son? Were they angry?

According to bnelson44 “The people were jubilant.”

39 posted on 07/06/2007 9:25:11 AM PDT by monday
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To: mockingbyrd
Good morning.
“....what human could do such a thing?”

Visit the Holocaust museum, then ask that question.

There are really no limits to human cruelty, as there are no limits to the kindness we are capable of.

Michael Frazier

40 posted on 07/06/2007 9:40:03 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: monday; WashingtonSource
They were jubilant we were there to save them.
It was a bad excerpting job on my part.
41 posted on 07/06/2007 9:52:01 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: bnelson44

I can’t be sure this is just an Arab urban legend. After all, these people are told Jews make Matzoh out of the blood of Arab children, and many of them believe it.

That said, Al Quada is so barbaric I have no problem believing they love to think up new tortures.


42 posted on 07/06/2007 10:02:54 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: jazusamo; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

No real surprise, except that it’s being reported. There’s worse, I’m sure.

Too bad they didn’t invite joe wilson for tea and yellow cake.


43 posted on 07/06/2007 10:22:42 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: jazusamo

Just YESTERDAY, jaz, I had a conversation that burst out of nowhere. One of those, where the antennae stick up. I rushes back to me now, looking at and reading about these kids.

A woman, in a store, just started talking about how her mother died when she was young, and then, all their pictures burned in a fire.

The thrust of her point was that she is obsessed with photography now (and these were her words)

because it captures a moment and that moment can live forever.


44 posted on 07/06/2007 10:55:01 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: bnelson44

[speechless]********************[/speechless]


45 posted on 07/06/2007 11:54:22 AM PDT by madison10
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To: bolobaby

I get bent at all the armchair quarterbacks, even on FReep questioning details of things going on over there. Yon has been one of the few consistently on the ground with our fighting men in the tough places.

Yeah these people lie worse than BillyJeff Klintoon, but the website referenced has photos of a lot of kids beheaded and crazy stuff happens over there every day, so it is definitely plausible.

Thanks for your service, sorry you didn’t get your chance at the show.


46 posted on 07/06/2007 12:11:34 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: freedomdefender
Some from FR and the Dems want to run from this????

This is a must read. Ask yourself, if MSM reported the real news would retreat be in our vocabulary? We should be ashamed, but alas, we are not.

If you have the stomach for what should be REAL Front Page Photos, check out these pics. They are for the Tough ONLY. I am very serious about that. Read the post below for the author and photographer.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1858768/posts?page=127#127

47 posted on 07/06/2007 12:51:46 PM PDT by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: bolobaby; mockingbyrd
I agree that the baked-boy story sounds......mythological.

That line from The Godfather comes to mind, the one about something being "an infamia" -- Mediterranean and Middle Eastern societies have their infamias, things that even Al Q'aeda wouldn't touch. Child murder and cannibalism would seem -- from a distance -- far enough over the line, that not even our worst enemies would go there.

But we know Beslan was true. They would kill children, we know that.

48 posted on 07/06/2007 12:52:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: bnelson44; Cannoneer No. 4; intenseracer; 2ndDivisionVet; Lurker; roaddog727; MizSterious; ...
The Real Reporter of the GWOT. Micheal Yon is the best. Thank you for posting B44.
49 posted on 07/06/2007 12:55:31 PM PDT by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: SFC Chromey
And it wouldn't be past one of the locals to tell that LT a big story? Or maybe a true story, but dolled up some more and therefore no longer true?

The British SAS who were among the first into Afghanistan found the Afghani men were rushing home, putting on women's clothing and makeup, and coming out to offer the Brits their services. So some guys would offer their services, and another wouldn't offer a story?

Like I said in my post above, the story is over there and I'm over here, but still.......

50 posted on 07/06/2007 12:59:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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