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Scientists all agog at 'octosquid'
/www.hawaiitribune-herald.com ^ | 06-29-2007 | Bobby Command

Posted on 07/06/2007 7:36:22 AM PDT by Red Badger

A squid-like creature, rescued from a Natural Energy Laboratory of Hawaii Authority deep water pipe filter, swims in a fish tank Wednesday at the facility

As denizens of the deep go, it isn't very intimidating.

But local scientists are nevertheless fascinated with the tentacled creature that was sucked up to the surface Tuesday by the 55-inch deep sea pipeline at the Natural Energy Laboratory of Hawaii Authority.

"It's kind of an 'octosquid,'" said Jan War, operations manager at NELHA at Keahole Point. "It's got the body of a squid but the eight tentacles of an octopus."

The foot-long "octosquid" was rescued alive from a filter at the end of the pipeline, which each minutes brings up to 5,000 gallons of 39-degree Fahrenheit sea water from a depth of 3,000 feet.

Along with the brownish-red octosquid, which does not have the long club tentacles normally seen on the type of mollusks known as cephalopods, NELHA officials also on Tuesday extracted three grayish-black rat-tail fish and four satellite jellyfish.

While the smallest of the rat-tail fish was still alive -- until the octosquid made a meal of it -- the other creatures were dead. War said the fish that come up the NELHA pipeline quickly die or are already dead because the change in atmospheric pressure expands and eventually ruptures a fish's swim bladders.

But invertebrates -- animals with no backbones -- are seemingly unaffected by the pressure change. The light may have bothered the octosquid, though, since it is pitch black at the 3,000-foot depth. War said the exceptionally clear waters off Keahole Point allow light from the sun to penetrate to about 500 and 600 feet.

War, who fed the octosquid shrimp for breakfast Wednesdaymorning, said everyone was excited because it was still alive. "And we're also excited because we may have found a new species."

University of Hawaii scientists are also interested in the octosquid.

"It's a gorgeous animal," said Christopher D. Kelley, program biologist for the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory. "I want to say I've seen one, but I need to pass this one on to an expert for more examination."

To get down 3,000 feet, you have to go about a mile and a half off Keahole Point. War, who has inspected the pipelines intakes in a submersible owned by the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory, said the bottom is mostly rubble and sediment.

"The slope is a lot like Hualalai at 30 percent," War said. "There's a fair share of life down there -- mostly things suspended. But you also see things swimming around."

Kelley said Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory has a database of everything it has videotaped since it began the deep-sea dives in the 1980s, but there is so much that has yet to be discovered at those depths.

"We have one starfish-like creature that we can't even get the phylum (a primary division in the animal kingdom)," he said. "We've just labeled it 'animal.'"

War said there's a 40-inch pipeline, which brings water up from the 2,000-foot depth, that seems to produce different types of sea creatures. "You don't get these jellys in the 2,000-foot pipeline," he said. "I don't know if that means they stay deeper, or they just happened to be migrating through that area when they were caught."

Eventually, NELHA would like to put some of the benthic creatures out for display, but it takes an 8-ton crane to pull the filter out of the pump shaft, so cleaning is a major operation. "We'd like to find some way to do it more often," he said. "We pulled the skeleton of a fish out of there once, and we'd like to have seen what that was."

Kelley, who said he is also interested in the satellite jellyfish, said he's willing to take any of the animals that NELHA can't use or display.

"I hope they keep calling us when they get them," he said. "Needless to say, trips by humans to that depth are rare, so we're very interested in anything they come up with."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: invertebrate; octopus; squid
Cute.........
1 posted on 07/06/2007 7:36:23 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

I bet that’s good with a little marinara!


2 posted on 07/06/2007 7:38:04 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Red Badger

Well, boil ‘er up and let’s see how it tastes!


3 posted on 07/06/2007 7:40:13 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Red Badger

I gathered from another article that it is already dead.


4 posted on 07/06/2007 7:42:22 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Red Badger

Turducken of the sea!


5 posted on 07/06/2007 7:44:05 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Red Badger

“Oh Brad, this will never work! We are too different! I’m a squid and you’re an octopus-”

“Baby, those things are just labels! All we need is love and we’ll be fine!”

“Oh, take me, you manly invertebrate hunk! Take me in your eight tentacles and never let me go!”


6 posted on 07/06/2007 7:44:43 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Red Badger

I think James Carville (half-man,half-viper) wins the freak show!


7 posted on 07/06/2007 7:45:32 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: weegee

It was alive when found, but it may have died from lack of pressure, as it came from 3000 ft below sea level......


8 posted on 07/06/2007 7:46:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Red Badger
Here's another little cutie (not related to the story):
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9 posted on 07/06/2007 7:47:58 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup

Cute & “cuttle-ly”..........


10 posted on 07/06/2007 7:49:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Uncledave

I make it a point not to eat anything that starts with “Turd”........


11 posted on 07/06/2007 7:50:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Red Badger

I’m agog at the octo-squid also.

Actually, it looks like it could have a Sunday morning children’s show from your photo.


12 posted on 07/06/2007 7:52:21 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Red Badger

LOL! That was AWFUL! :)


13 posted on 07/06/2007 7:53:48 AM PDT by SoKatt
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To: Red Badger
It was alive when found, but it may have died from lack of pressure, as it came from 3000 ft below sea level......

The article mentioned that the pressure change usually killed fish specimens but cephalopods were unaffected. It was alive and eating shrimp last week, but another article did mention that the octosquid and other specimens had been preserved by freezing.

Formaldehyde leaves a taste that tarter sauce can't cover. :-)

14 posted on 07/06/2007 8:04:50 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Red Badger

Bump.


15 posted on 07/06/2007 8:07:11 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Red Badger

“..the 55-inch deep sea pipeline..”

Huh?


16 posted on 07/06/2007 8:07:53 AM PDT by 353FMG (America, first, last and always.)
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To: 353FMG

They should have rephrased that.

A Deep Sea Pipeline, 55 Inches in diameter.


17 posted on 07/06/2007 8:13:55 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: 353FMG

55” DIAMETER.........3000 feet deep........


18 posted on 07/06/2007 8:14:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Killborn

LOL!!!


19 posted on 07/06/2007 8:16:07 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Killborn

Underwater Paperbacks, a new industry is born.


20 posted on 07/06/2007 8:18:52 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: Red Badger

Actually, it should be 3000 feet wide and 55 inche’s deep, you’d get more critters that way.


21 posted on 07/06/2007 8:19:03 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Red Badger; Malsua

It is still an odd pipeline size. There is 52”, 56” and 60” pipe, but I have never heard of 55” pipe size.


22 posted on 07/06/2007 8:22:05 AM PDT by 353FMG (America, first, last and always.)
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To: Red Badger

That is why I never eat sea food because sea food eat turds and each other and I don’t like mercury or fords for that matter.


23 posted on 07/06/2007 8:24:24 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: 353FMG

This a “special” government pipeline, probably made in only one factory on earth in some senator’s home town.........


24 posted on 07/06/2007 8:29:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Charles Martel
Formaldehyde leaves a taste that tarter sauce can't cover

Try balsam vinegar..........It'll blend right in!......

25 posted on 07/06/2007 8:31:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Red Badger

“But local scientists are nevertheless fascinated with the tentacled creature that was sucked up to the surface Tuesday by the 55-inch deep sea pipeline at the Natural Energy Laboratory of Hawaii Authority.

Look for a ban on sea pipelines now becuase this new creature will be put on the endangered list or something


26 posted on 07/06/2007 9:00:59 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: squarebarb

Hmm, if post #4 is correct, then Brad and Jen probably shouldn’t have gotten together.


27 posted on 07/06/2007 9:19:01 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Squidpup

Any relation to the subject of our post? ;)


28 posted on 07/06/2007 9:19:39 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: bmwcyle

Hey, build a better mousetrap and all that...


29 posted on 07/06/2007 9:20:09 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Killborn

I need to start a squid-story ping list


30 posted on 07/06/2007 9:31:37 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup

LOL! Your screen name lends you credibility and authenticity. :)

Lemme guess, navy?


31 posted on 07/06/2007 9:32:52 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Red Badger
Global Warming Causes Interspecies Dating!!

Bush's fault!

32 posted on 07/06/2007 9:41:51 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Bloomberg. Lots of money. Lots of influence. Realize that NOW!)
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To: Killborn

Nah not navy - its a long story related to “Squidlips was taken”


33 posted on 07/06/2007 9:42:26 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup

I have time. :)


35 posted on 07/06/2007 9:52:32 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Killborn

http://www.noisebot.com/tourism_t-shirt


36 posted on 07/06/2007 10:01:39 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: theDentist
"Well, boil ‘er up and let’s see how it tastes!"

Hmmm........cross between condor and spotted owl, perhaps?

37 posted on 07/06/2007 10:01:45 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Killborn
Use the character Fabipod as your hero.
38 posted on 07/06/2007 10:19:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: bmwcyle

Nah, girls today are more into Squidmo. The lead character should be a sensitive mollusk who’s not afraid to show his emotions and cry a little.

I other words, a John Squidward.


39 posted on 07/06/2007 10:23:12 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: All
Evolutionary jump between species?
40 posted on 07/06/2007 11:50:59 AM PDT by celmak
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