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Al Qaeda Admits Changes in Terror Tactics
GIS/D&FA via AntiMullah ^ | July 6th, 2007 | D&FA Stations

Posted on 07/06/2007 5:19:11 PM PDT by FARS

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Confirmation From al-Qaida-Linked Group on Attempted Use of Nuclear Weapon, Ties With Iran, and Failed Assassination Bid Against US President and Jordanian King

Analysis: By Gregory R. Copley and GIS Staff.

US intelligence sources have indicated that US counter-terror analysts were looking at what they felt were “changes” in targeting and methodological doctrine by al-Qaida-linked jihadist terrorist groups.

In particular, the translations of the information on the website which provided the basis for the assessment were believed to highlight a new “low-tech terrorism” against targets in the West.

GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs analysts, who have viewed the entire context of the comments on the website, however, believe that the remarks presage not only a widening of doctrine (not a replacement of existing targeting doctrine), but also give new information confirming other major, and hitherto unconfirmed, data about al-Qaida strategies and linkages.

New revelations on a website connected with the al-Iqlas Islamist movement have provided confirmation of:

(a) Al-Qaida’s acquisition of at least one nuclear weapon (believed to be a Soviet-built “suitcase” nuclear weapon), and its consideration of use in a “spectacular” operations (believed to have been the US Republican National Convention in 2004 in New York); and

(b) Confirmation that so-called al-Qaida operations were intimately known to the clerical Government of Iran, which essentially controlled an “al-Qaida” mission in November 2006 to assassinate US Pres. George W. Bush and Jordanian Pres. Abdullah Bin Al-Hussein.

(Excerpt) Read more at antimullah.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedanukes; alqaedastrategy; enemywithin; infiltration; iran; nuclearproliferation; nukes; wot
"throwing handgrenades in New York streets can be more devastating than another 9/11"

each incident kills fewer at a time but instills a wider fear in a broader population sector when in multiple repetitions.

1 posted on 07/06/2007 5:19:14 PM PDT by FARS
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To: 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; 68skylark; AdmSmith; airborne; Alamo-Girl; ...

Preview of terror strategy and directional shift


2 posted on 07/06/2007 5:23:09 PM PDT by FARS (Good Thoughts (lead to ) Good Words (which combine into) Good Deeds)
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To: FARS

BTTT


3 posted on 07/06/2007 5:27:05 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: FARS

There is a drawback to numerous small attacks from a terrorists point of view.

They count on the fact that they have a large number of defenders in this country. A sustained campaign of terror on American streets will destroy their support base among leftist Americans.


4 posted on 07/06/2007 5:32:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: FARS
This is highly intriguing - but is it credible?

The part about a potential NYC nuclear attack at the GOP convention being called off for theological reasons is correct, I do know that. It is the reason why Osama bin Laden released his message later in 2004, right before the 2004 presidential election (according to Islam, you can't kill civilians without giving them a chance to repent and convert first).

5 posted on 07/06/2007 5:38:02 PM PDT by tlj18 (A mediocre Soldier with integrity is better than a great Soldier with none - my firm view)
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To: FARS
For all of the sidewalk psychology dished out by so-called 'analysts', liberal talking heads, and various and sundry other 'experts', did it ever occur to the heathen Islamic rabble that the subconscious makeup of this country is just slightly more akimbo than the Old Europe they terrorize and manipulate? They seem to think that the United States is nothing more than a collection of little Frances and Belgiums. The visceral, ground-level reaction to 'hand grenades in the street' might be just a tad more Draconian than they expect from the sheepish Western apostacy.

Read into that what you will.


6 posted on 07/06/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred in '08. Deal with it.)
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To: tlj18

Also, if President Bush was assassinated in 2006, I am quite sure a President Cheney would have totally unleashed the U.S. military. Which we haven’t seen since World War II, in my own opinion.


7 posted on 07/06/2007 5:40:36 PM PDT by tlj18 (A mediocre Soldier with integrity is better than a great Soldier with none - my firm view)
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To: Viking2002

Maybe this is what it will take to give us back our backbone as opposed to soft appeasement.


8 posted on 07/06/2007 5:44:31 PM PDT by FARS (Good Thoughts (lead to ) Good Words (which combine into) Good Deeds)
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To: FARS

Interestingly, we’ll probably never know if they were caught with a nuke and stopped. Or if they tried to set one off and it simply didn’t work at all. There’s always the possibility of these happening.


9 posted on 07/06/2007 5:46:57 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: FARS
As long as the firm logic of your ends and the grim determination to persue them reigns supreme, then yes. Focus on the issue at hand, and no more.


10 posted on 07/06/2007 5:52:03 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred in '08. Deal with it.)
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To: Tolsti

In view of this recent threat. Reinstate the draft and have several subs strategically positioned to nuke Mecca, Medina, Tehran and Damascus at a moment’s notice. None of that petty Hiroshima style stuff we want to be able to feel a tremor through the ground in New York when Mecca vanishes.


11 posted on 07/06/2007 5:56:47 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: FARS
total crap but interestiong reading. The whole bomb in the tunnel plot is stupid. It would have been simpler to bring the bomb in a trunk of a car within a couple of blocks of MSG where it would have done more damage. Not to mention, they dont really have a bomb. If they did, they would have used it.

“US sources indicated to GIS that it was now entirely possible that the Republican Convention plans by the Islamists included the attempted destruction of the entire convention site at Madison Square Gardens through the use of a “briefcase bomb”, a miniaturized nuclear weapon. It was believed that al-Qaida had at least one such weapon which could be transported beneath the Madison Square Gardens site, which sits atop the New York subway rail system and the Penn Station main-line railway terminus. Significantly, it has been confirmed that the rail links under Madison Square Gardens — which carry some half-a-million commuters a day — would not be closed during the Republican convention. [US Secret Service and other security/police bodies, as well as Amtrak, the main-line rail service, have, however, instituted a wide range of security measures for the duration of the Convention.]” “GIS sources said that the analysis about the possible attack on the Republican National Convention entailed more than speculation, but were based on direct statements from Islamist sources who had, in the past, proven credible and accurate.” Ultimately, the jihadists’ plan was aborted on instructions from Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri because of theological rather than operational reasons (such as fear of discovery by US security authorities). By Summer 2004, the jihadist élite was still immersed in a hot and profound debate about the permissibility of using WMD – particularly nuclear weapons – against civilian targets in the United States. At stake was reconciling Islam’s forbidding of the international killing of innocent civilians at war and the “shield fatwa” permitting foreknown collateral damage if it is a prerequisite for spectacular strikes. The jihadist leadership refused to approve the nuclear strike until the theological debate was resolved. It would be resolved – with an explicit permission to use nuclear weapons – only in Winter 2004/5.

12 posted on 07/06/2007 6:14:08 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over)
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To: finnman69

They chickened out because they new V.P. Cheney would have nuked Iran.


13 posted on 07/06/2007 6:28:11 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: BuffaloJack
None of that petty Hiroshima style stuff we want to be able to feel a tremor through the ground in New York when Mecca vanishes.

Waaaaaaaah! I want to feel it here!

14 posted on 07/06/2007 6:48:43 PM PDT by null and void (A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. If this happens enough, then people will start attacking Muslims (or even people who look Muslim) just for walking into the room. Of course, then more of them will leave for home. Not such a bad outcome after all.


15 posted on 07/06/2007 6:49:39 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: FARS

low tech = no money

sounds like they’re losing their touch. they embarrassed theirselves in London and Glasgow. Those were about as low tech as it comes.


16 posted on 07/06/2007 6:52:35 PM PDT by DaGman (`)
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To: FARS

Total BS article. Al kaida is all suitcase, no nuke. LOL


17 posted on 07/06/2007 7:02:56 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: cripplecreek
A sustained campaign of terror on American streets will destroy their support base among leftist Americans.

Maybe, but I don't think we can be sure that that would be the effect. (It hasn't been in Europe thus far). The American Left hates American conservatives far, far more than they hate foreign terrorists. Anything they can use to demagogue and gain advantage over their internal political opposition will be used by them for that very purpose.

They want to destroy "our" America as much as the Islamists do. They just want socialism to replace it, not Sharia. They don't believe the Islamists will be strong enough to subjugate Americans, but perhaps they do think they might be useful in destroying American conservatism, so that the Left can then have what they want the most: The field to themselves -- total power that can never be lost again.

18 posted on 07/06/2007 7:06:53 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: FARS

New threat to Goldman-Sachs:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/07/06/2007-07-06_threats_to_goldman_sachs_say_hundreds_wi.html


19 posted on 07/06/2007 7:23:48 PM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: FARS

Fits in with reports at the time.

I cross posted it to the WT thread.


20 posted on 07/06/2007 7:32:18 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: FARS; All

http://www.google.com/search?q=fatwa+to+ok+use+of+nuclear&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

WorldNetDaily: Mad mullahs issue fatwa to use nuclear weapons
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Letters: The danger of Bush’s anti-Iran fatwa - Salon
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21 posted on 07/06/2007 7:39:04 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: FARS

Low Tech could also mean germs. With dozens of al-qaeda doctors available, germs would be familiar to them.


22 posted on 07/06/2007 8:09:53 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


23 posted on 07/06/2007 8:45:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

They’ve lost. Screw the bastards. IMHO.


25 posted on 07/06/2007 10:53:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: doc maverick
IF they blinked once, they'll never do it again.

Whatever doubt they had for repercussions, whether from Islam or our wrath, would have been buried when her winkyness went all the way over there to surrender, and her counterpart in the senate surrendered live on TV.

With both houses of congress out of the way, a movie in the local grocery store advocating the assasination of our CIC, and the pentagon prosecuting Marines for responding to ambushes, we must look like the world's biggest pinanta'.

Or, at least the 2nd biggest. RosieHoDonnel IS the world's biggest pinanta'

26 posted on 07/06/2007 11:02:54 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
The American Left ... want to destroy "our" America as much as the Islamists do. They just want socialism to replace it, not Sharia. They don't believe the Islamists will be strong enough to subjugate Americans, but perhaps they do think they might be useful in destroying American conservatism, so that the Left can then have what they want the most: The field to themselves -- total power that can never be lost again.

Keep repeating this truth.

27 posted on 07/06/2007 11:17:12 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: FARS

This is typical islamofascist blow hardism.

They haven’t managed to pull off another 9/11 and it’s killing them.So they issue a statment claiming they MEANT for it to be that way.

Meanwhile their highly competent operatives can’t light a fuse - or manage to kill infidels while they do manage to set themselves on fire.


28 posted on 07/06/2007 11:21:19 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: FARS
That is something I have wondered for some time. It is classic guerrilla tactics. Don’t go for the big hits, go for a million small ones. You might not “win” the war, but if your goal is to instill fear and panic, that is the least cost way to do it.

AQ isn’t fighting smart. Something has kept them from doing things in the US like they have in Europe. I would love to say it was Homeland Sec, but to be honest I suspect there is something more holding them back. Perhaps they don’t have the support here, or they may be trying for another big attack. Which is good, because one big attack is easier to stop than a hundred small attacks.

29 posted on 07/07/2007 8:52:24 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tlj18

I don’t believe a word about suitcase nukes, we’ve been hearing that for 20 years. If AQ had suitcase nukes, they would’ve used them already.


30 posted on 07/07/2007 9:00:41 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Sharpei diem -- Seize the wrinkled dog.)
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To: FARS

global jihad bump


31 posted on 07/07/2007 3:04:18 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I read an article a couple years ago that concluded that suitcase nuclear weapons probably don't exist because of size limitations, among other things. The author said that in order to use one, if they exist, you would have to enter a code(s) to use it, so if you use one, it's probably because someone wants you to use it.

However, if they do in fact exist, they would only have a yield similar to a tactical nuclear device, i.e., not a city-destroyer. The fear is not so much the enemy has huge yield nuclear weapons, but tiny yield devices that could relatively small amount of physical damage, but the resulting societal effects would be huge. The information on how to construct such devices is highly classified.

32 posted on 07/07/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by tlj18 (A mediocre Soldier with integrity is better than a great Soldier with none - my firm view)
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To: tlj18

I’ve read that the “suitcase” nukes are more like “footlocker” nukes and very heavy. Maybe they’ve got them and are waiting for some future time to use them.

I’ve always had the attitude that if AQ had small nukes, they would’ve used them. Maybe not. Maybe they’re just trying to keep everybody on edge chasing leads that turn out to be dead or not worth much, then we’ll let our guard down and go back to sleep. AQ has got to be enjoying the fact that the media is on their side, especially when that media tends to deny that there is even a terrorism problem.

The terrorist M.O. is to operate in the shadows with quick small hit-and-retreat attacks. If they step up attacks too much and get too much in-your-face, they know that our govt. will get serious and really take it to them.

If they were to assassinate the president, they know Cheney would start burning countries like Iran and Syria to the ground, and have public support doing it.


33 posted on 07/08/2007 8:28:34 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Sharpei diem -- Seize the wrinkled dog.)
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To: finnman69

whats funny about this
“Ultimately, the jihadists’ plan was aborted on instructions from Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri because of theological rather than operational reasons”

this Copley guy was just on fox 30 minutes ago and guess what he said
“they tried to set off a suitcase nuke at the RNC and it didnt work”

differing stories makes me think it might be made up


34 posted on 07/13/2007 2:37:15 PM PDT by oldstyle81
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