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Faith Intertwines With Political Life for Clinton
The New York Times Company ^ | 07/07/07 | MICHAEL LUO

Posted on 07/07/2007 5:08:18 AM PDT by ricks_place

WASHINGTON — Long before her beliefs would be tested in the most wrenching of ways as first lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton taught an adult Sunday school class on the importance of forgiveness. It is a lesson, she says, that she has harked back to often.

“We all have things that oftentimes we’re upset about, or ashamed of, or feel guilty over, and so many people carry these enormous burdens around,” Mrs. Clinton said in a recent interview. “One of the great gifts of faith is to let it go.”

The themes of wrongs, forgiveness and reconciliation have played out repeatedly in Mrs. Clinton’s life, as she has endured the ordeal of her husband’s infidelity, engaged in countless political battles and shared a deep, mutual distrust with adversaries.

Her Methodist faith, Mrs. Clinton says, has guided her as she sought to repair her marriage, forgiven some critics who once vilified her and struggled in the bare-knuckles world of politics to fulfill the biblical commandment to love thy neighbor.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apostacy; faith; hillary; religiousleft
Hillary Rodham Clinton says she was raised "in a praying family."

SAINT HILLARY

1 posted on 07/07/2007 5:08:18 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

Barf Alert please.


2 posted on 07/07/2007 5:12:16 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: ricks_place

What? Is she praying to Al Gore, the High Priest of the Global Warming Cult?


3 posted on 07/07/2007 5:13:47 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: bill1952

Make that TWO BARFS

The Devil can masquerade as an angel of light....and Hillary has that down well


4 posted on 07/07/2007 5:15:21 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: ricks_place

Go dig up Vince Foster and ask him about hillary’s forgiveness.


5 posted on 07/07/2007 5:15:29 AM PDT by sport
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To: ricks_place
The themes of wrongs, forgiveness and reconciliation have played out repeatedly in Mrs. Clinton’s life..

Sometimes 2 and 3 times a week when Bill is feeling particularly randy..

forgiven some critics..

Oh? Is that what her bible says, "forgive some, but not all?"

..the biblical commandment to love thy neighbor.

One of the countless examples for this would be her treatment of Vince Foster.

Yep, this is one religious lady who understands and lives her Christian faith.

6 posted on 07/07/2007 5:20:30 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: ricks_place

For Hillary and Bill, religion is just a photo op. To be periodically seen going to church, carry a Bible or praying in public are only image builders. Neither Hillary nor her husband are truly religious in any sense.


7 posted on 07/07/2007 5:28:05 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: ricks_place
Bill Clinton, former impeached, disbarred and disgraced president, is to the Democrats what Grigon Rasputin, who discredited and led to the fall of the Romanov Tsarist Dynasty, was to Russia.

A close study of the two reveal striking parallels.

8 posted on 07/07/2007 5:28:44 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: bill1952
Barf Alert please.

Hillary and barf is actually redundant.

9 posted on 07/07/2007 5:30:56 AM PDT by don-o (End Freepathons forever. Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor)
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To: ricks_place
Must be why she says whatever comes to her mind and then she expects us to forgive her. She actually believes this crap, thats why she forgets previous statements if they are more than 2 hours old.
10 posted on 07/07/2007 5:31:00 AM PDT by depenzz (Aspire to inspire before you expire)
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To: ricks_place

Surely Hillary’s campaign appreciates all the help from you grovelling Big Media syncophants, Mr. Luo, but, if you love Hillary so much, why don’t you just marry him?


11 posted on 07/07/2007 5:34:43 AM PDT by flowerplough (Call Mr. Plow, that's my name. That name again is Mr. Plow!)
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12 posted on 07/07/2007 5:35:36 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ricks_place

for any sinner like the Clintons to reflect on faith
is ghastly. These two are Devil enablers and welcome that effort. Fully conscience and willing to do or be whatever it takes ,including death, to get their way and direction


13 posted on 07/07/2007 5:40:05 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: ricks_place

Long before her beliefs would be tested in the most wrenching of ways as first lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton taught an adult Sunday school class on the importance of forgiveness

I guess that’s where she learned her tolerance of Jews.


14 posted on 07/07/2007 5:41:30 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: ricks_place
As a life long Methodist I really get tired of Hillary bringing out her Methodist/Christian roots and parading them around so that the world can be impressed with her piousness.
I also find it hard to believe she can remember so well a single class taught years ago that it still influences her today.

45 minute Sunday school classes aren’t that memorable.

Sounds like Bill and his memory of the nonexistant Church burnings.

15 posted on 07/07/2007 5:53:54 AM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: ricks_place

Hillary would have divorced Bill a long time ago, but she needed him as a vehicle to achieve the power she craves. Anyone who believes Hillary has a Christian molecule in her body has to be an idiot.

These people are so phony it’s almost beyond belief. I can still remember Bill telling reporters that he forgave those who had persecuted him in the Lewinsky affair. Here was a guy who turned the Oval Office into a brothel, committed felony perjury and obstruction of justice in the cover-up, intimidated witnesses, and sent hired thugs out to smear the investigators with false charges. Then, after all this, he acted like the victim and “magnanimously” told reporters he was willing to forgive all the wrong that had been done to him.

Ditto for Hillary. She went on national TV, defended Bill knowing full well that he was guilty, and made up all that garbage about a vast right-wing conspiracy. She’s smeared and destroyed anyone and everyone who got in her way or tried to bring her to justice. Then she poses as a forgiving Christian willing to turn the other cheek over the alleged wrongs done to her.

Imagine a wanton female criminal terrorizing a community with lawlessness and hate. When she’s finally brought to justice, she turns to a New York Times reporter with a sad expression on her face, and as she clutches a Bible, says she’s willing to forgive the arresting officers, the jury who convicted her, and the citizens who turned her in. The Times reporter writes a story on how wonderful this forgiving woman is, not mentioning her crimes or prior conduct at all, even though he knows full well that she’s plotting to escape and launch another crime spree even as she poses as a saint.

That’s Hillary, with the exception of the fact that she’s never been arrested since she’s always gotten away with everything.


16 posted on 07/07/2007 6:04:40 AM PDT by puroresu
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17 posted on 07/07/2007 6:12:53 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

My thoughts exactly..This article makes me want to puke. Where is the Fairness Doctrine when you need it. The NY Slimes is ramping up their free Hillary for Pres advertising machine already.


18 posted on 07/07/2007 6:27:02 AM PDT by milwguy
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To: ricks_place

Faith that her core constituency knows full well that she’s faking this “religious” jazz to lure centrist voters.


19 posted on 07/07/2007 6:28:57 AM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney 2008)
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To: ricks_place

Please, Hillary, tell the Left how Christian you are.


20 posted on 07/07/2007 6:29:03 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: ricks_place

The Clintons are like KUDZU....they Strangle all Truth and Life out of their followers.


21 posted on 07/07/2007 6:35:30 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: ricks_place

Can’t wait to hear her quote Scripture when a reporter asks for her favorite passage...


22 posted on 07/07/2007 6:37:42 AM PDT by DCMB (Bless GWB and all our troops)
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To: ryan71

IF SHE BELIEVES THAT STICKING A BABY IN THE HEAD AND SUCKING OUT ITS BRAINS IS A RIGHT , SHE HAD BETTER BE PRAYING REAL HARD.


23 posted on 07/07/2007 6:52:59 AM PDT by STUDABAKER
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To: ricks_place
Faith Intertwines With Political Life for Clinton

Unfortunately for us (and her, for that matter) the faith in question is Satanism.

24 posted on 07/07/2007 6:56:02 AM PDT by RichInOC (Hillary Rodham Clinton is a lying slag.)
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To: The Great RJ

I thought politicians weren’t allowed to talk about faith? Wall of separation you know!

What, that’s only for Conservatives you say?


25 posted on 07/07/2007 6:56:41 AM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: ricks_place
Faith Intertwines With Political Life for Clinton

Yup. We all know she prays in lucifer's name.

26 posted on 07/07/2007 6:58:49 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Z-Visa? Z-Visa? I don't need no stinkin' Z-Visa.)
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To: ricks_place

Another slobbering, front-page article by the NYT in support of Saint Hillary. Fortunately, very few (and getting fewer) people read and believe the NYT “news” articles.


27 posted on 07/07/2007 7:10:08 AM PDT by MarkT
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To: ricks_place

When she takes that false stance, everyone who knows her sidles quietly away from her.

They know her.

28 posted on 07/07/2007 7:16:04 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: ricks_place
For me, the key event of the last decade was this classic line, uttered by William Jefferson Clinton as part of his nomination acceptance speech to the 1992 Democratic National Convention...

"Frankly, I'm fed up with politicians in Washington lecturing the rest of us about 'family values'."

Everything the Clintons are now saying should be filtered through this line.

29 posted on 07/07/2007 7:24:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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Hillary Rodham Clinton taught an adult Sunday school class .... “One of the great gifts of faith is to let it go.” ... Her Methodist faith, Mrs. Clinton says, has guided her


Woo boy, what a crock!

30 posted on 07/07/2007 7:30:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: DCMB
Can’t wait to hear her quote Scripture when a reporter asks for her favorite passage...

It'll be this one. Isaiah 14:13-14....

You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. [a] I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."

And then we'll finish the quote for her, by including verse 15....
But you are brought down to the grave,
to the depths of the pit.

31 posted on 07/07/2007 7:30:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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32 posted on 07/07/2007 8:10:15 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: ricks_place
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33 posted on 07/07/2007 8:52:32 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: puroresu

I totally agree with everything you said.


34 posted on 07/07/2007 9:46:55 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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Pardon me for a moment while I blow chow.

Faith and forgiveness? Not a chance in hell. Revenge and greed are her driving forces. She only has faith the American voters have short memories.

For the goods on this evil woman, I highly recommend Barbara Olson’s book, “Hell to Pay”.

This soulless beast holds no Gods before herself. The Lord will not be mocked.


35 posted on 07/07/2007 1:49:29 PM PDT by doingwhatican
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To: ricks_place
I'm confused. I thought the enlightened sophisticates at the NY Times looked down at people of faith -- you know, all those gap-toothed, drooling, politically-ignorant, bible-thumping rednecks in flyover country (snicker, snicker).

But Hillary's "faith" is now an asset?

Is this a religious market test on behalf of the Clinton campaign?

Whatever it is, it's nauseating.

36 posted on 07/07/2007 4:03:46 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Halgr
The Devil can masquerade as an angel of light....and Hillary has that down well

Hillary would be an embarrasment to the Devil. She doesn't even come close to being an "angel of light".

37 posted on 07/07/2007 8:01:26 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: R.W.Ratikal

I personally think the comparison of the gruesome twosome to the Bible’s Ahab and Jezebel is particularly fitting.


38 posted on 07/07/2007 8:02:39 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: ricks_place
“I wouldn’t have focused so much on personal salvation,” Mr. Jones said recently about his message then. “I would have focused more on social responsibility.”

Says it all.

39 posted on 07/08/2007 6:13:35 AM PDT by agrace
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To: ricks_place

Hillary Rodham Clinton said “preying family”. The press just mis-spelled it.


40 posted on 07/08/2007 2:08:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (It's turtles all the way down.)
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