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Nixon on Tape: Fred Thompson "Dumb as Hell" (ZOT!!! Not dumb like some)
Associated Press via Yahoo! ^ | 7/7/07 | Joan Lowy

Posted on 07/07/2007 11:06:40 AM PDT by j24601

WASHINGTON - Fred Thompson gained an image as a tough-minded investigative counsel for the Senate Watergate committee. Yet President Nixon and his top aides viewed the fellow Republican as a willing, if not too bright, ally, according to White House tapes.

Thompson, now preparing a bid for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, won fame in 1973 for asking a committee witness the bombshell question that revealed Nixon had installed hidden listening devices and taping equipment in the Oval Office.

Those tapes show Thompson played a behind-the-scenes role that was very different from his public image three decades ago. He comes across as a partisan willing to cooperate with the Nixon White House's effort to discredit the committee's star witness.

It was Thompson who tipped off the White House that the Senate committee knew about the tapes. They eventually cinched Nixon's downfall in the scandal resulting from the break-in at Democratic headquarters in the Watergate complex in Washington and the subsequent White House cover-up.

Thompson, then 30, was appointed counsel by his political mentor, Tennessee Sen. Howard Baker, the top Republican on the Senate investigative committee. Thompson had been an assistant U.S. attorney in Nashville, Tenn., and had managed Baker's re-election campaign. Thompson later was a senator himself.

Nixon was disappointed with the selection of Thompson, whom he called "dumb as hell." The president did not think Thompson was skilled enough to interrogate unfriendly witnesses and would be outsmarted by the committee's Democratic counsel.

This assessment comes from audio tapes of White House conversations recently reviewed by The Associated Press at the National Archives in College Park, Md., and transcripts of those discussions that are published in "Abuse of Power: The New Watergate Tapes," by historian Stanley Kutler.

"Oh shit, that kid," Nixon said when told by his chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman, of Thompson's appointment on Feb. 22, 1973.

"Well, we're stuck with him," Haldeman said.

In a meeting later that day in the Old Executive Office Building, Baker assured Nixon that Thompson was up to the task. "He's tough. He's six feet five inches, a big mean fella," the senator told Nixon.

Publicly, Baker and Thompson presented themselves as dedicated to uncovering the truth. But Baker had secret meetings and conversations with Nixon and his top aides, while Thompson worked cooperatively with the White House and accepted coaching from Nixon's lawyer, J. Fred Buzhardt, the tapes and transcripts show.

"We've got a pretty good rapport with Fred Thompson," Buzhardt told Nixon in an Oval Office meeting on June 6, 1973. The meeting included a discussion of former White House counsel John Dean's upcoming testimony before the committee.

Dean, the committee's star witness, had agreed to tell what he knew about the break-in and cover-up if he was granted immunity against anything incriminating he might say.

Nixon expressed concern that Thompson was not "very smart."

"Not extremely so," Buzhardt agreed.

"But he's friendly," Nixon said.

"But he's friendly," Buzhardt agreed. "We are hoping, though, to work with Thompson and prepare him, if Dean does appear next week, to do a very thorough cross-examination."

Five days later, Buzhardt reported to Nixon that he had primed Thompson for the Dean cross-examination.

"I found Thompson most cooperative, feeling more Republican every day," Buzhardt said. "Uh, perfectly prepared to assist in really doing a cross-examination."

Later in the same conversation, Buzhardt said Thompson was "willing to go, you know, pretty much the distance now. And he said he realized his responsibility was going to have be as a Republican increasingly."

Thompson, who declined comment for this story, described himself in his book, "At That Point in Time," published in 1975, as a Nixon administration "loyalist" who struggled with his role as minority counsel. "I would try to walk a fine line between a good-faith pursuit of the investigation and a good-faith attempt to insure balance and fairness," Thompson wrote.

When Dean began testifying on June 25, he implicated Nixon in the break-in and cover-up. But his testimony had little legal impact because it was his word against the president's.

During Dean's testimony, Baker asked the question that became the embodiment of the Watergate scandal: "What did the president know and when did he know it?" Thompson is sometimes credited with supplying the question to Baker.

The question was widely perceived at the time as an example of Baker's willingness to press for truth at the expense of his party's leader. Historian Kutler, however, said he believes that in the context of Dean's testimony, the question was Baker's attempt to point out that the evidence hinged on one witness's word.

It was not until three weeks later — after the disclosure of the existence of tape recordings that might either corroborate or disprove Dean's testimony — that Baker's question took on new meaning, Kutler said.

At a hearing on July 16, Thompson asked former White House aide Alexander Butterfield: "Mr. Butterfield, are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the president?"

Butterfield's confirmation of the recordings set off a cascade of events that led to Nixon's resignation 13 months later.

The question made Thompson instantly famous. His political Web site — http://www.imwithfred.com — prominently notes: "Friends in Tennessee still recall seeing the boy they'd grown up with on TV, sitting at the Senate hearing-room dais. He gained national attention for leading the line of inquiry that revealed the audio-taping system in the White House Oval Office."

What rarely is mentioned is that Thompson knew the answer to the question before he asked it. Investigators for the committee had gotten the information out of Butterfield during hours of behind-the-scenes questioning three days earlier, on July 13.

Thompson was not present, but a Republican investigator immediately tracked him down at the Carroll Arms Hotel bar where he was meeting with a reporter. Thompson called Buzhardt over the weekend to tip off the White House that the committee knew about the tapes.

"Legalisms aside, it was inconceivable to me that the White House could withhold the tapes once their existence was made known. I believed it would be in everyone's interest if the White House realized, before making any public statements, the probable position of both the majority and the minority of the Watergate committee," Thompson wrote in his book.

Scott Armstrong, a Democratic investigator for the committee who was part of the Butterfield questioning, said he was outraged by Thompson's tip-off.

"When the prosecutor discovers the smoking the gun, he's going to be shocked to find that the deputy prosecutor called the defendant and said, 'You'd better get rid of that gun,'" Armstrong said in an interview.

The committee chairman, Sen. Sam Ervin, D-N.C., had agreed to allow Thompson to question Butterfield first at the July 16 hearing as a show of bipartisanship because a GOP investigator had elicited the initial information from Butterfield.

"Fred (Thompson) and Baker carried water for the White House, but I have to give them credit — they were watching out for their interests, too," Kutler said. "They weren't going to mindlessly go down the tubes for this guy."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dumbashell; election; elections; fredthompson; nixon; primary; thompson; watergate; zot
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1 posted on 07/07/2007 11:06:41 AM PDT by j24601
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To: Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger; jellybean

Piece-of-sh!t hit-piece alert!


2 posted on 07/07/2007 11:09:26 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: j24601

AP is apparently wetting its collective pants at the mere idea of a Thompson candidacy. Wonder what they know that we don’t know. And since when did AP believe anything Nixon ever said in his life, including remarks on the weather? And all of a sudden the dead Nixon is an expert on Thompson? Joan Lowy, your agenda is showing.


3 posted on 07/07/2007 11:11:40 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: j24601

Yeah, FDT was friendly with Nixon and Co. while he kicked their collective asses. That’s how Southern boys work, pal. If’n you’ve never experienced it, the time to watch out is the time they pull the “I’m just a hick” routine. And, as even these biased idjits at AP will admit, FDT was the guy who asked “the bombshell question that revealed Nixon had installed hidden listening devices.” That and being young and stupid, don’t exactly mix. Needless to say, Nixon underestimated FDT to his own loss.


4 posted on 07/07/2007 11:12:19 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: lesser_satan
Ignore the title and look at what happened. Thompson did his job well.
5 posted on 07/07/2007 11:14:46 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: 3AngelaD
The Left hates Nixon, this is one weird article.
6 posted on 07/07/2007 11:15:43 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: j24601
I'm sure someone of prominence has said that Hillary is "dumb as hell" as well - and, heck, probably even more recently than 34 1/2 years ago too.

But where is the MSM on that?

crickets - crickets - crickets - crickets - crickets - crickets - crickets - crickets

7 posted on 07/07/2007 11:15:46 AM PDT by jdm
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To: j24601

Daaaangg.....the MSM sure is giving Fred both barrels this weekend. Only makes me like him more!


8 posted on 07/07/2007 11:15:52 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: j24601

Ron Paul is Gay!


9 posted on 07/07/2007 11:16:13 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: j24601

The liberal media is starting to sweat bullets.


10 posted on 07/07/2007 11:17:03 AM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: j24601

Nixon hated Reagan as well.

Whom did he admire?

Other crooks like the Kennedys and Clintons.


11 posted on 07/07/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: tioga
The Left hates Nixon, this is one weird article

But they fear Fred more. Look for them to make Nixon out to be a messiah when it comes to negative Fred coverage.

12 posted on 07/07/2007 11:17:50 AM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: lesser_satan

Why is it that a slow-talking Southerner is fine if it is a Democrat (Carter, Clinton, LBJ). But if it is a Republican, they are dimwitted, slow (Thompson, Bush)?


13 posted on 07/07/2007 11:18:26 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: All

The newbie troll has been banned.


14 posted on 07/07/2007 11:20:51 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Bommer
I love it when the leftie MSM tries to read the minds of conservatives and do these hit pieces. As if we are a bunch of lemmings and will believe what they tell us.
15 posted on 07/07/2007 11:21:55 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: j24601
Author Joan Lowy covered Pat Schroeder's congressional career for ten years and was given unlimited access to Schroeder's staff for this biography.

No agenda here...

16 posted on 07/07/2007 11:22:21 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: tioga

This libertarian-conservative Republican hates Nixon, too for that matter. Sum beotch. Price controls, dirty tricks, Watergate breakin (and a needless crime at that), kowtowing to Mao. Jezus wept. No more RINOs like Tricky Dick are needed. Ever.


17 posted on 07/07/2007 11:22:39 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: j24601

I have concerns about Fred Thompson. Being stupid isn’t one of them though.


18 posted on 07/07/2007 11:23:09 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: LdSentinal

Huh?


19 posted on 07/07/2007 11:23:29 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: LdSentinal
Good catch, possibly a bogus article?
20 posted on 07/07/2007 11:24:01 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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