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Islam's war against Christianity
American Thinker ^ | July 5 2007

Posted on 07/07/2007 11:28:58 PM PDT by PRePublic

Islam's Global War against Christianity

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html

From Nigeria to Indonesia, Christians are under siege in virtually every single country in the Muslim world, the victims of countless acts of discrimination, depredation, brutality, and murder that are so widespread and systematic that it can rightfully be called the new Holocaust. This time, however, the perpetrators of this Holocaust aren't wearing swastikas, but kufi skull caps and hijabs.

Some of the oldest Christian communities in the world are subject to relentless attack and teeter on the brink of extinction at the hands of the "Religion of Peace": Palestinian Christians in Gaza and the West Bank; Assyrian, Syriac and Chaldean Christians in Iraq; Coptic Christians in Egypt; Evangelical and Orthodox Christians in Eastern Ethiopia and Eritrea; Armenian Orthodox Christians in Turkey; and Maronite Christians in Lebanon.
Several of these communities date back to the beginning decades of Christianity and all have weathered wave after wave of Islamic persecution for centuries and more, but in the very near future some will simply cease to exist. In our lifetime, the only trace of their past existence will be in footnotes in history books (and probably only Western history books at that).

Meanwhile, we in the West hear much from radical Islam's apologists how the US is engaged in a war against Islam citing of our military actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are lectured on the inviolability of the Muslim ummah and justifications of defensive jihad.

But an extensive search this past weekend of the websites of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America, the Islamic Circle of North America, the Muslim American Society, the Muslim Student Association, the Fiqh Council of North America, and the Muslim Public Affairs Committee - the most visible institutional representatives of Islam in America - found not a single mention or reference of the religious persecution of Christians by their Islamic co-religionists, thereby making them tacit co-conspirators in the Final Solution to the Christian problem in the Muslim world.

The global war on Christianity by Islam is so massive in size and scope that it is virtually impossible to describe without trivializing it. Inspired by Muslim Brotherhood ideology and fueled by billions of Wahhabi petrodollars, the religious cleansing of Christians from the Muslim world is continuing at a break-neck pace, as the following recent examples demonstrate.

Iraq: In the current issue of the American Spectator, Doug Bandow observes that centuries of dhimmitude have left Christians in the war-torn country without any means of self-defense. Washington policymakers have refused to lend assistance for fear of showing partiality, despite the murder of hundreds of Iraqi Christians, the kidnapping and torture of Christian clerics, the repeated bombings of Christian churches, the torching of Christian businesses, and the flight of close to half of the entire Iraqi Christian population since April 2003. Those who remain have been subject to the imposition of shari'a by the Shi'ite Mahdi Army and Sunni militias (al-Qaeda doesn't bother with such niceties, preferring to murder them immediately instead), including the recent published threat in Mosul of killing one member of every Christian family in that city for Christian women not wearing the hijab and continuing to attend school. (Be sure to remember that the next time an Islamist apologist claims that the hijab is a symbol of women's liberation.)

Egypt: Journalist Magdi Khalil chronicles in a new report ("Another Black Friday for the Coptic Christians of Egypt")  the campaign of violence directed against Christian Copts almost weekly immediately following Friday afternoon Muslim prayers. Inspired by Islamist imams preaching religious hatred in mosques all over the country and protected by government officials willing to look the other way, rampaging mobs of Muslims set upon Christians churches, businesses and individuals, from Alexandria to cities all the way up the Nile. Coptic holy days are also favorite times for Muslim violence, which the Egyptian media likes to describe as "sectarian strife" - as if it were actually a two-sided affair.

Gaza: Ethel Fenig recently noted here at American Thinker ("More Gaza Multiculturalism")  the systematic destruction of churches and desecration of Christian religious objects by Jihadia Salafiya following the HAMAS takeover of the Gaza Strip from their Fatah rivals and the imposition of Islamic rule. The head of Jihadia Salafiya told reporter Aaron Klein that any suspected Christian missionary activity in the area will be "dealt with harshly". (Ynet News)


Saudi Arabia: According to the Arab News, a Sri Lankan Christian man barely escaped with his life in late May when he was found working in the city of Mecca, Islam's holiest city, which is officially barred to non-Muslims. In December, an Indian man had been sentenced to death for accidentally entering the city, but was spared after the Indian embassy made an urgent appeal to the Saudi Supreme Court.

Pakistan: In Islamabad, Younis Masih was sentenced last month to death under the country's frequently invoked blasphemy laws, which were also used against six Christian women suspended from a nursing school after they were accused of desecrating a Quran. And as protests against Salman Rushdie's knighthood raged, a Muslim mob armed with guns, axes and sticks attacked Christians worshipping in a Salvation Army church in Bismillahlpur Kanthan. (Associated Press; United Press International; Mission News Network)

Bangladesh: Almost a dozen Christian converts in the Nilphamari district were beaten last week by Muslim villagers wielding bricks and clubs, and threatened with death if they did not leave town immediately. Local hospitals subsequently refused them treatment. Christians in the area have also been prevented from using the only potable water well in the area after a pronouncement by religious authorities at the mosque in Durbachari. This came after 42 former Muslims were baptized as Christians in the local river on June 12. (Compass News Direct

Malaysia: Government authorities demolished a church building on June 4th in Orang Asli settlement in Gua Musang in Ulu Kelantan, despite prior government approval of the project. The church was built on donated property after the entire village had converted to Christianity just a few months ago. Also in late May, the Malaysian high court ruled that Muslims who convert to Christianity must appeal to the religious shari'a courts to officially be deregistered as Muslims and reregistered as a Christians. (Journal Chretien; Associated Press)

Indonesia: Agence France Presse reported last month on an attack by the Islamic Anti-Apostate Movement, who stormed a church service in a Protestant church in the West Java town of Soreang. The AFP report notes that more than 30 churches have been forced to close in West Java and dozens more throughout the country in recent years due to Muslim violence, churches which were among the few spared during the outbreak of hostilities during 1997-1998, where hundreds of Christian churches were burned to the ground and never rebuilt.

Turkey: The Christian community is still reeling from the torture and ritual slaughter of three Protestants at a Christian publishing house in Malatya in April by an armed Islamist gang, which was preceded by the murder last year of Catholic priest Andrea Santoro in Trabzon and the assassination of Armenian journalist Hrant Dink in Istanbul in January. An additional six men allegedly associated with the same Muslim gang were arrested on May 30th for plotting an attack on a Christian pastor in Diyarbakir. (Lebanon Daily Star; ADKNI)

Cyprus: The Cyprus Mail reports that during a meeting last month in Rome the Archbishop of the Cypriot Greek Orthodox Church pleaded with the Vatican Secretary of State for the Pope's assistance to pressure Turkish authorities in restoring and repairing Christian sites and churches in areas occupied since the invasion of the island nation by Turkey in July 1974 and the ethnic cleansing of 160,000 Greek Christian Cypriots.

Lebanon: More than 60,000 Christians have left the country since last summer's war between Hezbollah and Israel, fearing the rise of both Sunni and Shi'ite extremism and terrorist activity. The Sunday Telegraph recently revealed the results of a poll finding that at least half of Lebanon's Maronite community were considering leaving the country. More than 100,000 have already submitted visa applications at foreign embassies.

Algeria: In what is considered one of the more "moderate" Muslim regimes, Al-Quds Al-Arabi announced that the Algerian government has just issued regulations requiring advance permission for non-Muslim public events, following a 2006 law aimed at limiting Christian evangelism in the Kabylia region and the Sahara. (MEMRI )

Morocco: In the country that The Economist magazine in 2005 anointed "the best Arab democracy", all Moroccans are considered Muslims at birth and face three years in prison if they attempt to convert. They are also prohibited from entering any of the few churches permitted to operate for the foreign inhabitants of the country. Moroccan Christians must operate covertly for fear of imprisonment by the government and attacks by Islamists. They cannot bury their dead in Christian cemeteries, and they must be married by Islamic authorities or face charges of adultery. Late last year, a 64 year-old German tourist, Sadek Noshi Yassa, was sentenced to six months in jail and fined for missionary activity. (Journal Chretien

Nigeria: Police in Gombe arrested sixteen suspects after a Muslim mob stoned, stripped, beat, and finally stabbed to death a Christian teacher, Christiana Oluwatoyin Oluwasesin, after she caught a student cheating on an exam in March. Her body was then burned beyond recognition by the mob who falsely accused her of desecrating a Quran. The suspects were released last month without any charges being filed, prompting Christian leaders to accuse government authorities of a cover-up and raising concerns about additional attacks. (Christian Today

Eritrea: Just a few weeks ago, the Islamic government installed a new Orthodox Patriarch after they removed the previous Patriarch and placed him under house arrest for no stated reason. Compass News Direct reported in February the death of Magos Solomon Semere, a Christian who had been imprisoned in a military jail for four and a half years for illegal Christian worship, the third Christian to die in government custody since October. Authorities have also cracked down on unapproved churches, jailing at least two thousand Protestants and members of the Medhane Alem Orthodox renewal movement since the beginning of the year and publicly burning confiscated Bibles. (Christian Post; Compass News Direct ; Journal Chretien)

It is not an exaggeration to say that I could extend this brief list ad infinitum with additional Islamic countries and news items from just the past few weeks' worth of incidents of violence, discrimination, intimidation and murder targeting Christians in the Muslim world. In many instances, the government and religious authorities in these Muslim countries work hand-in-hand in their campaign of religious persecution.

A scene in the Academy Award-winning movie Schindler's List gives us some insight into what is happening all across the Muslim world with respect to Christianity. As the SS Commandant Amon Göth and his Nazi Stormtroopers prepare to liquidate the Jewish ghetto in Krakow, Poland, Göth (played in the movie by Ralph Fiennes) gives his men a peptalk:

For six centuries there has been a Jewish Krakow. Think about that. By this evening, those six centuries are a rumor. They never happened. Today is history.
This scene is being repeated in the Friday sermons in mosques and on Islamic satellite TV all over the world, only this time it is the Christians in addition to the Jews who are targets. Great efforts are being made to make the two-thousand year history of Christianity in North Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia a blasphemous rumor. Soon students in Turkey will be taught that the Hagia Sophia, the greatest architectural structure in the Muslim world, wasn't built by the Christian Emperor Justinian in the Sixth Century, but by the Sultan Mehmed II a thousand years later after the Ottomans seized the Byzantine capital. That Christians lived at all in the Muslim world, let alone that much of the territory occupied by Muslims used to be Christian lands before the Islamic Wars of Conquest, will be nothing but a rumor by the end of this century punishable according to the precepts of shari'a.

President Bush announced last week that he will be sending a special envoy to the 57-member Organization of Islamic Countries. Hopefully, the systematic persecution of Christians and other religious minorities will be the first and primary item in the new envoy's portfolio, with the 2007 annual report of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom and the State Department's Annual Report on International Religious Freedom, which name virtually every single country in the OIC for its human rights abuses and religious cleansing, as evidence for our country's concern.

The fact remains that not a single Christian or Jew lives in peace in the Muslim world, and if it is truly our nation's foreign policy to spread democracy around the world, this issue is the perfect topic for us to press. Back at home, raising Islam's global war on Christianity should be the immediate response to the seemingly endless media grievance machine of radical Islam's Western apologists. Until they begin to address the new Holocaust perpetrated in the name of Islam, their complaints and denials are nothing but bald hypocrisy.

Patrick Poole is an occasional contributor to American Thinker. He maintains a blog, Existential Space.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christianity; christianpersecution; christians; g71; globaljihad; islam; islamofascism; jihad; koran; muhammadsminions; muslims; persecution; quran; religion; rop; waronislamism

1 posted on 07/07/2007 11:29:02 PM PDT by PRePublic
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2 posted on 07/07/2007 11:31:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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3 posted on 07/07/2007 11:35:32 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Turning the other cheeck might not be included in today’s text.
4 posted on 07/07/2007 11:36:14 PM PDT by kinoxi
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5 posted on 07/07/2007 11:44:25 PM PDT by newberger (NO on Cloture! NO on "comprehensive" immigration reform!)
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\Brotehrs and Sisters, Jesus did not mention carry a sword or sell your belongings for nothinng.

Gat up Brothers..


6 posted on 07/07/2007 11:47:45 PM PDT by padre35 (Quod autem isti dicunt non interponendi vos bello)
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What the article DOESN'T say is that the words of Tertullian are as true today as they were in 200 AD.

For example. I do KNOW that Coptic Christians in Egypt are experiencing real revival and are receiving (secretly) hundreds, if not thousands, of converts from Islam. This is historically unprecedented......, except for Indonesia, where the suffering of Christians led to huge flockings of Muslims to Christ, mostly Chinese origin.

Let me remind you that the church recently experienced a savage and brutal assault in the last century. A group of global thugs "imagined" a new humanity, and decided to kill everyone they needed to in order to bring it about. China was particularly brutal, murdering as many as 100 million of its own people. The west, especially the western church, was fearful, timid, and nervous, and wondered "how will the church survive" and "WILL the church survive?" Lo and behold, when the curtain began to come up, we found that the suffering brought untold revival and a literal explosion and dispersion of Christianity, so that almost NO area of China does not have a biblical witness. This expansion was accomplished at great cost (and great suffering still goes on among the "house church" leaders today). However, estimates are that as many as 4-5 per cent of the population of China today are professing Christian......, about half the percentage as the American Colonies before the Great Awakening.

It may well be that God will use the suffering of these communities to both embarrass and call to prayer the dead and dying church in the West, AND use the suffering to call millions of Muslims to repentance. "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church." True in 200 A.D. True now.

7 posted on 07/07/2007 11:59:23 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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What the article DOESN'T say is that the words of Tertullian are as true today as they were in 200 AD.

For example. I do KNOW that Coptic Christians in Egypt are experiencing real revival and are receiving (secretly) hundreds, if not thousands, of converts from Islam. This is historically unprecedented......, except for Indonesia, where the suffering of Christians led to huge flockings of Muslims to Christ, mostly Chinese origin.

Let me remind you that the church recently experienced a savage and brutal assault in the last century. A group of global thugs "imagined" a new humanity, and decided to kill everyone they needed to in order to bring it about. China was particularly brutal, murdering as many as 100 million of its own people. The west, especially the western church, was fearful, timid, and nervous, and wondered "how will the church survive" and "WILL the church survive?" Lo and behold, when the curtain began to come up, we found that the suffering brought untold revival and a literal explosion and dispersion of Christianity, so that almost NO area of China does not have a biblical witness. This expansion was accomplished at great cost (and great suffering still goes on among the "house church" leaders today). However, estimates are that as many as 4-5 per cent of the population of China today are professing Christian......, about half the percentage as the American Colonies before the Great Awakening.

It may well be that God will use the suffering of these communities to both embarrass and call to prayer the dead and dying church in the West, AND use the suffering to call millions of Muslims to repentance. "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church." True in 200 A.D. True now.

8 posted on 07/08/2007 12:21:10 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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How sad. Yet these are the lib’s allies. That is how much the libs hate Christians. Muslims live in peace here, even though they are far outnumbered by Christians. We would never lay a hand upon them. Christians do not live in peace there. The Muslims are also moving into UK and replacing their declining population. The libs are too dumb to realize they would love to put the entire western world under Sharia.


9 posted on 07/08/2007 12:24:22 AM PDT by Pinkbell (I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order. - Mike Pence)
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There a virtual genocide occurring against Christians in the Islamic World and the West is lectured about Islamophobia! We never hear about Christophobia. By remaining silent, we're complicit in this persecution of non-Muslims throughout the Islamic realm.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 07/08/2007 2:27:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Meanwhile they bomb/attempt to bomb London and Glasgow and the authorities bend over backwards to avoid identifying them as Muslims. Generic ‘terrorists’ sounds so much better.


11 posted on 07/08/2007 2:43:02 AM PDT by hershey
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Would CAIR like to address the global persecution of Christians by Muslims?


12 posted on 07/08/2007 3:03:50 AM PDT by windsorknot
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13 posted on 07/08/2007 3:13:46 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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14 posted on 07/08/2007 3:46:02 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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\Brotehrs and Sisters, Jesus did not mention carry a sword or sell your belongings for nothinng. Gat up Brothers..

?????

Do you review before posting, or are you intoxicated?

15 posted on 07/08/2007 3:48:50 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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We all love movies about justice, where the bad buy gets his in the end and the underdog is saved.

Christ is coming back, not as a lamb but as the Lion of Judah.

He will take His own with him, and then the Anti-Christ will torture humanity for 7 seven years.

Then, Christ will defeat evil.

The stage seems to be set, the pieces are in the place. This may yet happen in our own lifetimes.

16 posted on 07/08/2007 4:19:43 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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He will take His own with him, and then the Anti-Christ will torture humanity for 7 seven years.

Fatalistic fortune-telling is the antithesis of prophetic proclamation. When human sacrifice was legalized in the very backyard of Dallas Theological Seminary, they were so busy drawing up their pretty multi-colored maps of the future that they completely missed the event. Their addiction to fortune telling had crippled their prophetic abilities. God had to use the Catholic side of the family to sound the prophetic alarm about the implications of Roe v. Wade.

Fortune telling makes us stupid. It also makes God's people look stupid and clueless and ineffectual and useless to the watching world around us.

When Soviet Communism suddenly lost credibility around the world, I did not see a single fortune teller (Hunt, or Lindsey, or Summerall) give God glory and publicly report for misidentifying the scarlet beast. Rather, then scurried around frantically, like cockroaches caught in the light, desperately seeking a new antichrist candidate to cringe before.

Christians who use the Bible biblically, rather than as a tool for divination, had a different take on the event. They took the gospel into the former soviet bloc. And, they began asking God to discredit Islam. Studying the languages of Muslim people. Befriending Muslim students and sojourners.

Fortune telling induces fatalistic paralysis. There are eternal consequences awaiting those who have spent their lives discouraging, disheartening, deceiving, the people of God. Even if their chosen hustle has allowed them to recycle books and marriages as each is overtaken by time. At last count, Hal is on marriage number four, I believe. And I don't know how many times he's retitled Late Great Planet Earth, and changed the players, while reusing the plot.

17 posted on 07/08/2007 5:00:23 AM PDT by RJR_fan
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18 posted on 07/08/2007 5:08:01 AM PDT by Stallone (Fred Thompson is the Man for the Times)
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When Soviet Communism suddenly lost credibility around the world, I did not see a single fortune teller (Hunt, or Lindsey, or Summerall) give God glory and publicly report for misidentifying the scarlet beast.

Great post. I especially like the line above. I don't recognize the names of the individuals named above, but I did want to point out that Jehovah's Witnesses also had to confront this inconvenient little hiccup in their ideology. I'm not sure how they weaseled their way around it. I just wanted to point it out to you and to get it on the record that there were others who had the same issue.

19 posted on 07/08/2007 5:10:47 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.

He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)

20 posted on 07/08/2007 5:12:53 AM PDT by EBH
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Jehovah's Witnesses are preterists in reading revelation, and so are spared the idiocy of dispenstionalists.

This is not to say that JWs do not have other, more serious issues of error than finding the European Common market, nuclear bombs, chemical warfare andCobra Helicopter gunships in Revelation. In fact, while dispensationalists believe stupid and unbiblical things, they do not believe soul destroying and damning things like denying the deity of Christ and the reality of the spiritual rebirth.

21 posted on 07/08/2007 5:19:12 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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He will take His own with him, and then the Anti-Christ will torture humanity for 7 seven years.

Not a shred of biblical evidence for this scenario. None. A complete fiction sprung full blown from a charismatic milkmaid worshiping in the flock of a defrocked heretic (Edward Irving) in the early 1800s. Margaret McDonald (the milkmaid in question) had a "vision" where she opined that 1800 years of understanding of Christ's return was WRONG and that there would be a two stage coming of Jesus. First a "secret" coming and then later the big deal.

John Nelson Darby, founder of the "all of Christendom is apostate except us" sect called "Plymouth Brethren" glommed onto this "revelation," as it fit into his radical disjunction between Israel and the Church (old and new testaments),

Dispensationists have only two scriptures they point to for a "rapture" and neither teach any such thing. The "biggie" is of course an unbiblical notion that I Thessalonians 4:13-17 refers to a "secret rapture." It does not. The position of the church for 1800 years previous has been that this is the final, once for all coming of Jesus for final judgment. It is certainly not "evidence" for the doctrine.

The ONLY other scripture one may even suggest for a "rapture" is some weird extrapolation of a "come up here" command in Revelation (11:2) to symbolic figures (which for a variety of reasons should not refer to a "pretribulational rapture"). Again, neither of these verses are biblical evidence for such a doctrine. The best that can be said for them is that they can be hammered into a dispensational chart....., if you already have the chart.

If you don't come to the bible committed to such a doctrine, you will not find it in the bible. There is simply zip, zero, zilch NADA evidence for such teaching from the Bible itself.

22 posted on 07/08/2007 5:44:55 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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Loved your post, but to be fair, Hudson Taylor and George Mueller were both dispensationalists, and it would be hard to be more vibrant evangelical and socially aware persons/movements than the forces God brought about by these two men. While I think that dispensationalism is horrid theology, I don't put the fault of the moribund state of the church at their door. All of us could us a dose of what hit the colonies under Edwards and Whitfield, and our culture is doomed unless that happens.

I do hope and pray that God will bring wisdom maturity and aid us in repentance by exposing us to our persecuted brothers in the third world. In many ways they are our "elder brothers" even though the resources for biblical teaching are not nearly so extensive. Happy sabbath to ya.

23 posted on 07/08/2007 5:53:23 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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Islam isn’t at war with Christianity. They have declared war on everyone who doesn’t follow the rantings of the meglomaniac insane pedofile known as Mohammed.


24 posted on 07/08/2007 5:56:27 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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It’s a holocaust. The left and the media won’t report on it, because they FAVOR IT.


25 posted on 07/08/2007 6:01:24 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (expulsion now for safety later)
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I do hope and pray that God will bring wisdom maturity and aid us in repentance by exposing us to our persecuted brothers in the third world.

As one who also dreams of being fruitful, I concur. It seems we can forward God's program by small and relatively painless obedience now, or out of the crucible of enormous suffering later. The cry of my heart is for grace to be obedient, now.

26 posted on 07/08/2007 6:11:02 AM PDT by RJR_fan
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Cute, Christians in disputed areas are only ripe for the slaughter, the Mohammedians have proven time and again what they do to unarmed Christians when they are riled.

Praise the Lord and Pass the ammunition.


27 posted on 07/08/2007 6:36:03 AM PDT by padre35 (Quod autem isti dicunt non interponendi vos bello)
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Feel better now?


28 posted on 07/08/2007 6:58:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Hmmmm. Someone needs to send this to new British Prime Minister Gordon Brown.


29 posted on 07/08/2007 7:05:54 AM PDT by CurlyBill (Democrats: Trying hard to manufacture a loss in Iraq ... all for politics)
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Ultimately, the complete destruction of Islamic oilfields and hence their wealth will be necessary.


30 posted on 07/08/2007 7:10:18 AM PDT by ricks_place
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I agree with you, and I do know how China is brutal & oppressing in all aspects, however the Islamic force is the only “religion” or cult that is THE enemy of religious freedom, whereas China is more about power hunger.


31 posted on 07/08/2007 8:45:17 AM PDT by PRePublic (good vs evil)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1862343/posts

That observation & historical look was very interesting.

32 posted on 07/08/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by PRePublic (good vs evil)
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Islam isn’t at war with Christianity. They have declared war on everyone who doesn’t follow the rantings of the meglomaniac insane pedofile known as Mohammed.

As Islamic Mullah: Abu Hamza said a: "non Muslim is a COW, you can "do" with it whatever you want".

33 posted on 07/08/2007 8:49:23 AM PDT by PRePublic (good vs evil)
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Your post is typical worldview of the Roman Catholic Church. Your worldview based on interpreting the events of the world through Amillennialist spectacles.

While I am no fan of Hal Lindsey and company, and the Dispensationalist pretrib rapture, I’ll give the dispys this, they are, to their credit, Premillennialists...which is more than I can say for you Catholics.

I believe the NT teaches a rapture, a “catching up” to meet the descending Christ at his second coming/resurrection - a bodily resurrection, see 1 Thess. 4:15-18. Rapture is the Latin equivalent to the Greek word for “caught up” in verse 17. However, I believe it takes place at the last day, the last day of this age. A singular post-trib rapture, second coming, and bodily resurrection, in other words.

While the boys at Dallas Theological Seminary are in error, their error is not nearly as serious as yours. In the name of an Amillennial interpretation of Rev. 20, the mediaeval leadership of the RCC viewing themselves ruling with Christ in a spiritualized 1000 years, the millennial, hundreds of thousands of Protestants were persecuted and burned at the stake. Their interpretation of the millennial reign gave them the authority to do it.

None of this, at least, can be laid at the feet of the Dispensationalists.


34 posted on 07/08/2007 12:25:59 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: PRePublic
Not reading the thread, I'm sure someone has quoted Jesus the Christ...you know,

"...you will be subject to persecution, and death all in My name." I hate when these kind of predictions come true...then again, about everything else He said has come true...

5.56mm

35 posted on 07/08/2007 12:38:54 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: sasportas

Great post.


36 posted on 07/08/2007 4:11:26 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: sasportas
I believe the NT teaches a rapture, a “catching up” to meet the descending Christ at his second coming/resurrection - a bodily resurrection, see 1 Thess. 4:15-18. Rapture is the Latin equivalent to the Greek word for “caught up” in verse 17. However, I believe it takes place at the last day, the last day of this age. A singular post-trib rapture, second coming, and bodily resurrection, in other words.

We are in agreement on this point, along with the vast majority of Christians of all ages. The notion of "coming 1.5," a half-@$$ed semi-demi-hemi physical coming 7 years before the main event, is the weird and indefensible novelty advanced by dispensationalism.

37 posted on 07/09/2007 4:44:32 PM PDT by RJR_fan
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bttt

It’s a holocaust. The left and the media won’t report on it, because they FAVOR IT.


38 posted on 12/25/2010 3:32:15 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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