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Boeing set to unveil 787 amid order flurry
Reuters.co.uk ^ | 7-8-07 | Bill Rigby

Posted on 07/08/2007 12:23:27 PM PDT by phantomworker

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Boeing Co. (BA.N: Quote, Profile , Research) prepared to unveil the first carbon-composite 787 Dreamliner on Sunday amid a flurry of 55 new orders for the lightweight, fuel efficient plane.

European, Middle Eastern and Australian carriers trumpeted new orders at various Boeing events in Seattle, as the U.S. plane maker got ready to host 15,000 or so employees, customers and suppliers at its nearby Everett, Washington, plant.

All are waiting for the first glimpse of the mid-sized, long-range jetliner, which is the company's first all-new plane in 12 years.

The jet will not look radically new on the outside, but beneath the just-dried paint lies a structure 50 percent made up of carbon composite materials and another 15 percent titanium, making the plane much lighter and fuel efficient than existing jetliners of the same size.

The use of fatigue-resistant and rust-free composite materials means air in the cabin can be more humid, leaving passengers less dried out and jetlagged after a long flight.

The lighter weight and newly designed engines made by General Electric Co. (GE.N: Quote, Profile , Research) and Britain's Rolls-Royce plc (RR.L: Quote, Profile , Research) mean airlines will save about 20 percent on fuel costs.

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(Excerpt) Read more at investing.reuters.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 787; aerospace; boeing; dreamliner
Rollout of the 787 on 7-8-07, which is set for 3:30 p.m. PT. (Hoo-ah!)
1 posted on 07/08/2007 12:23:31 PM PDT by phantomworker
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To: phantomworker

How many orders now? Airbus, eat our dust.


2 posted on 07/08/2007 12:27:40 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: phantomworker
The use of fatigue-resistant and rust-free composite materials means air in the cabin can be more humid, leaving passengers less dried out and jetlagged after a long flight.
That'll be nice. As it is I practically have to travel with an IV drip bag to stay hydrated. I look forward to the day when you can travel in the comfort and safety of a fluid-filled sack like if you were still in the womb. Of course, our airports would get rather messy what with all those business travelers and tourists bursting into their terminals through what amount to birth canals. Yuck.
3 posted on 07/08/2007 12:30:09 PM PDT by Asclepius
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To: phantomworker
The jet will not look radically new on the outside, but beneath the just-dried paint lies a structure 50 percent made up of carbon composite materials and another 15 percent titanium, making the plane much lighter and fuel efficient than existing jetliners of the same size.

Great! We can all look forward to lower ticket prices for the 787, right?

4 posted on 07/08/2007 12:30:14 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; jpsb; decimon; ...

If you want on or off this aerospace ping list, please contact Paleo Conservative or phantomworker by Freep mail.


5 posted on 07/08/2007 12:32:03 PM PDT by phantomworker (Not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.~ Einstein)
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To: phantomworker

787 Rollout today (7/8/7) Live On TV around the world here’s the link to the web site.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/787premiere.html


6 posted on 07/08/2007 12:34:33 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: ccmay
How many orders now? Airbus, eat our dust.

What you said.

7 posted on 07/08/2007 12:36:37 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (California : home of the fruits, nuts and flakes.)
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To: TLI
Lower than they would have been without the composites.

I don't have a link to Ralph Nader's Anti-Capitalist web site but a quick Google should find it.


8 posted on 07/08/2007 12:36:53 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: tophat9000

Also on the web
http://787premiere.newairplane.com/


9 posted on 07/08/2007 12:39:47 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: phantomworker

You going to be there?


10 posted on 07/08/2007 12:40:50 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: phantomworker

We can thank Rutan and some of the other kit plane companies.

If it wasn’t for them and their light fast designes we would still be dealing with aluminum and rivit brains.


11 posted on 07/08/2007 12:41:55 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: TLI

Probably not, but it will be a much more enjoyable ride.


12 posted on 07/08/2007 12:41:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: phantomworker

mean airlines will save about 20 percent on fuel costs(<<-MORE PROFIT).


13 posted on 07/08/2007 12:45:20 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: JRios1968

Seattle Seahawks ‘Roll Out’ Red Carpet for 787 at Qwest Field. The first 25,000 guests will receive a 787 glider as a souvenir.

Dang, if I would’ve known! ;-)


14 posted on 07/08/2007 1:04:20 PM PDT by phantomworker (Not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.~ Einstein)
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To: phantomworker

It was not Rutan. Actually the composite technology was developed by Boeing when they built the composite wings and other parts for the B-2 bomber program that my stepdad was in charge of at Boeing’s Seattle plant.


15 posted on 07/08/2007 1:26:15 PM PDT by paulweir
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To: tophat9000

Boeing has webcasts and satellite channels but no cable tv channels?


16 posted on 07/08/2007 1:30:54 PM PDT by FlowerKrout
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To: Asclepius

if the fluids contained some part of the pig, then we can get rid of airport security too..i’m all for that.


17 posted on 07/08/2007 1:39:25 PM PDT by pacelvi
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Watch the 787 rollout event live on 7/8/07
18 posted on 07/08/2007 2:05:46 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: FlowerKrout
I’m just guessing that dealing with a satellite provider is more easy than dealing with several different cable operators who can be stingy at times.
19 posted on 07/08/2007 2:06:22 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: dalereed

Actually, we should thank Lockheed and McDonnell-Douglas more than Burt Rutan for making composite airplanes possible for commercial airliners. Boeing just borrowed a lot of the research done on composite structures used on military aircraft and applied it to the 787. (The F-16 Fighting Falcon and the F-18 Hornet were among the first aircraft to use composites in a number of critical components to keep weight down.)


20 posted on 07/08/2007 2:19:11 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: TLI
Great! We can all look forward to lower ticket prices for the 787, right?

Not the 787 in particular, but in airlines in general that purchase 787s. After all, airfare is competitive.

21 posted on 07/08/2007 2:23:58 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: burzum

This is the competition. I wonder why Boeing is getting so many orders?

22 posted on 07/08/2007 2:46:14 PM PDT by phantomworker (Not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.~ Einstein)
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To: FlowerKrout
I’m not sure why that is. However, up here in the Pacific Northwest (if you get NWCN on your cable system), they’ll be having live coverage starting at 3:00pm Pacific.

I’ll be watching both on TV AND the internet.

There’s only one drawback to the whole shebang...Tom Brokaw is supposed to be the one narrating the broadcast. *sigh* Oh well, you can’t have everything.....

23 posted on 07/08/2007 2:53:13 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I just read here that the new Boeing 787s will have their cabin pressure set to a new level, to reduce air altitude sickness.
24 posted on 07/08/2007 3:07:16 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Yep. Pressurized to a lowel level, plus more humidity in the cabin air so you won’t feel as drained when you get off.


25 posted on 07/08/2007 3:08:55 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: All; tophat9000

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787 Dreamliner Premiere:

DIRECT TV Channel 576 - NOW..!!!

.


26 posted on 07/08/2007 3:38:14 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: hoagy62

Pretty cool show. I watched it on local cable TV. Did the online video work?


27 posted on 07/08/2007 5:03:02 PM PDT by phantomworker (Not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.~ Einstein)
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To: phantomworker

Yep they finally got the audio to work...

}}}}}}}}Beautiful Plane{{{{{{{{{

Congrats to Boeing and all their partners around the world.


28 posted on 07/08/2007 5:09:25 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: dalereed
"We can thank Rutan and some of the other kit plane companies.

In fact you can thank NASA and most of of the aerospace industry as well - today's composites, your digital camera, and lots of other goodies have been in the works for decades before you saw a sign of them.

What Boeing has done is to skip the "oh dear, it's going to be really hard to be the first.." stage and decide that Rutan and others have done enough ground work to make scaling up into commercial aircraft feasible.

29 posted on 07/08/2007 5:19:50 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton

“Rutan and others have done enough ground work to make scaling up into commercial aircraft feasible.”

Personally, I’d like to have a Lancair P-4, one fine personal traveling machine!


30 posted on 07/08/2007 5:23:30 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: RayChuang88

“(The F-16 Fighting Falcon and the F-18 Hornet were among the first aircraft to use composites in a number of critical components to keep weight down.)”

No they weren’t, not even close. Remember Aircraft plywood is a composite and has been used as a structural component in many airframes such as the Dehavilland Mosquito.


31 posted on 07/08/2007 5:36:07 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Dave Elias

I should have made myself clear: the F-16 and F-18 were among the first military planes to use a lot of non-ferrous (and I don’t mean wood!) composite materials such as boron composites and carbon-fiber composites for a number of structural components.


32 posted on 07/08/2007 6:33:58 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: dalereed
Aluminum - not composite - yes/no?
33 posted on 07/08/2007 9:52:31 PM PDT by norton
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To: phantomworker

I want a job with Boeing so bad, I can taste it. One of the women in my department just got hired there. She is working in Saint Louis. I check the website every week for jobs here...


34 posted on 07/08/2007 10:31:13 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: norton

“Aluminum - not composite - yes/no?”

If you’re refering to the Lancair P-4, it’s an all composite kit plane. 4 place, presurized, 340mph, 1,200k range, and 28,000 service ceiling.


35 posted on 07/09/2007 6:26:36 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: phantomworker

I’m confused...does the 50% carbon component of the plane mean it has a BIGGER, or SMALLER, “carbon footprint?” Does it therefore increase, or decrease..global warming? Will Al Gore fly in it..or will he purchase carbon offsets that he can use to justify flying on a G-V?


36 posted on 07/09/2007 6:29:08 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: cardinal4
I want a job with Boeing so bad, I can taste it.

My cousin just got a job there. And as I described the company (being an aviation nerd), I ended up admitting that working for Boeing had been a dream job of mine. My cousin is very lucky (very smart too, the job was well earned).

37 posted on 07/09/2007 7:22:24 AM PDT by Paradox (Foreign Policy suggestions from Jimmy Carter are like Beauty Tips from Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: ken5050

LOL! ;)


38 posted on 07/09/2007 4:32:57 PM PDT by phantomworker (Not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.~ Einstein)
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To: Asclepius

“As it is I practically have to travel with an IV drip bag to stay hydrated.”

Some research has shown that “Brown’s Gas”, which is “expanded water” or mon-atomic hydrogen and mon-atomic oxygen, when bubbled through water, enhances its hydrating ability in the body. And water made from the combustion, or recombining of the H & O can be tailored to varied structures that enhance its benefit when taken orally.

This is in addition to its use as a fuel for internal combustion engines (water as fuel) or its use as an extrordinary cutting/welding/brazing flame.


39 posted on 07/09/2007 6:14:16 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: ken5050

“Will Al Gore fly in it..or will he purchase carbon offsets that he can use to justify flying on a G-V?”

This problem is easily solved - just put Algore on the No-Fly list.


40 posted on 07/09/2007 6:28:32 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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