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Thousand Of New Volcanoes Revealed Beneath The Waves
New Scientist ^ | 7-9-2007 | Catherine Brahic

Posted on 07/09/2007 2:56:55 PM PDT by blam

Thousand of new volcanoes revealed beneath the waves

10:04 09 July 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Catherine Brahic

The true extent to which the ocean bed is dotted with volcanoes has been revealed by researchers who have counted 201,055 underwater cones. This is over 10 times more than have been found before.

The team estimates that in total there could be about 3 million submarine volcanoes, 39,000 of which rise more than 1000 metres over the sea bed.

"The distribution of underwater volcanoes tells us something about what is happening in the centre of the Earth," says John Hillier of the University of Cambridge in the UK. That is because they give information about the flows of hot rock in the mantle beneath. "But the problem is that we cannot see through the water to count them," he says.

Satellites can detect volcanoes that are more than 1500 m high because the mass of the submerged mountains causes gravity to pull the water in around them. This creates domes on the ocean's surface that can be several metres high and can be detected from space.

Data overload

But there is a multitude of small volcanoes that have gone undetected. The only way of identifying them is to manually find their outline on sonar measurements taken from ships.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geology; underwater; volcanoes; waves
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1 posted on 07/09/2007 2:56:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I’m sure this is somehow related to GLOBAL WARMING.


2 posted on 07/09/2007 2:58:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Conservatives are educated. Liberals are indoctrinated.)
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To: blam

No doubt this is caused by global warming. I wonder how many carbon offsets do we need to purchase to prevent them from erupting?


3 posted on 07/09/2007 2:59:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: blam

I always love these type of articles.......a general question............I’ll comment way deep in the thread

....Why are the Oceans salty ?........


4 posted on 07/09/2007 2:59:27 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: blam

Warms the water, pollutes the air and probably has sunk some ships and caused some planes to go down over water.

Bush’s fault!


5 posted on 07/09/2007 3:01:38 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: blam
Thousand of new volcanoes

It's not new volcanoes -- its newly found volcanoes. I was astonished for a moment...

6 posted on 07/09/2007 3:03:16 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: blam
Satellites can detect volcanoes that are more than 1500 m high because the mass of the submerged mountains causes gravity to pull the water in around them. This creates domes on the ocean's surface that can be several metres high and can be detected from space.

Pretty interesting - I wish they'd elaborated on this phenomenon though. Wouldn't the gravity caused by the mountain mass itself pull the water down causing a dish, rather than dome, on the oceans surface?

7 posted on 07/09/2007 3:04:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: advertising guy
....Why are the Oceans salty ?........

Because of Joe Cocker?.....

8 posted on 07/09/2007 3:04:57 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: TopQuark

good eye but there is more it tells ya


9 posted on 07/09/2007 3:05:05 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Red Badger

of all the threads, in all the posts, you come here,here and figger it out..........LMAO

( I’d aguessed Buffet what with the Margaritaville stuff)


10 posted on 07/09/2007 3:06:43 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: skeeter

It would if it didn’t also pull more ware in from the sides...


11 posted on 07/09/2007 3:07:23 PM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: advertising guy

To improve the taste?


12 posted on 07/09/2007 3:09:15 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: null and void

ware=water.


13 posted on 07/09/2007 3:09:32 PM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: blam

My personal theory is that these underwater volcanoes and other steam vents, when very active, cause El Nino. I don’t have any proof, but it makes sense to me. It would take a tremendous amount of volcanic activity just to heat the Pacific Ocean to the point that an El Nino occurs. If this is true, it would be enough to heat the Pacific enough.


14 posted on 07/09/2007 3:10:43 PM PDT by DaGman (`)
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To: VeniVidiVici

This could be a source for more carbon in the atmosphere....


15 posted on 07/09/2007 3:12:12 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: skeeter

“Pretty interesting - I wish they’d elaborated on this phenomenon though. Wouldn’t the gravity caused by the mountain mass itself pull the water down causing a dish, rather than dome, on the oceans surface?”

Nope! Gravity isn’t just perpendiculat to the ocean surface. It would also pull every way perpendicular to the mountan mass and thus the net effect would be a bump.


16 posted on 07/09/2007 3:12:45 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: VeniVidiVici

The hot ocean is sucking them up like the blackhead vacuum that used to be advertised in magazines.


17 posted on 07/09/2007 3:20:16 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: blam

Gads! Volcanoes spewing all those greenhouse gases and polluting the sea. Congress has just got to pass a law to prevent this travesty.


18 posted on 07/09/2007 3:22:18 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: blam
...mass of the submerged mountains causes gravity to pull the water in around them. This creates domes on the ocean's surface that can be several metres high...

OK so the oceans surface is randomly pimpled and pocked with "water domes" which measure in metres, an equatorial bulge of about half a metre (between Maine and Miami) due to rotation and never ending wave action of indeterminate height due to winds. So how do you define the "average sea level"? Let alone measure it with millimetre precision? Establishing that baseline number is necessary to be able to document any increase as predicted by global warming alarmists.

I know, we'll use a satellite based radar system! Except that's measuring a point value not an average. It is almost like measuring the average height of an American male. By the time you finish measuring all the required points, they have all changed in value.

Regards,
GtG

19 posted on 07/09/2007 3:22:58 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: blam

Notice when the news is being reported...during Bush’s term...and it’s taken this long for someone to say the obvious “Bush’s Fault”!!!??


20 posted on 07/09/2007 3:28:02 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: JRios1968
Oops
21 posted on 07/09/2007 3:28:32 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: Old Professer

Naw, God’s just turning up the heat in the kitchen!


22 posted on 07/09/2007 3:33:17 PM PDT by prayin4_swcb (....A nation divided against itself, cannot stand.)
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To: BuffaloJack

a clue.......a measured bump......bunches of em too


23 posted on 07/09/2007 3:39:16 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy
Why are the Oceans salty ?

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24 posted on 07/09/2007 3:42:06 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
"I know, we'll use a satellite based radar system!"

That system has been used for decades to seek/see the 'budge' of underwater submarines.

25 posted on 07/09/2007 3:42:46 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: JRios1968

the salty ocean is evidence #1 global warming is a lie..........the reason for the article (volcanos) is proof. Additionally there is not surprising evidence via the KNOWN number of bumps on the oceans surface.


26 posted on 07/09/2007 3:45:46 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: blam

BUMP!


27 posted on 07/09/2007 3:49:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: advertising guy
"Why are the Oceans salty ?........"

Because the volcanoes disgorged massive amounts of minerals into the sea.

The real question is: "After a couple billion years of this, why aren't the seas more salty?

28 posted on 07/09/2007 3:50:35 PM PDT by cookcounty (Forgotten in the fray: Saddam killed, on average, 6,223 muslims per month, for 27 years.)
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To: cookcounty

neither of your assertions are true.one minerals were not the source and prove life scientifically beyond 22 thousand years........Carbon dating is science proveable to 14 thousand years and the “scale” is generated on assumption, not science fact.


29 posted on 07/09/2007 3:57:47 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: DaGman

About 15 yrs ago I was having an argument with a liberal foe regarding the impending doom of global warming.

He declared that sea temperatures were indisputably increasing and that this was conclusive proof of global warming. Because this around the time that geothermal vents were being popularized, I asked him how he could discount newly discovered underwater volcanic activity.

He quickly dismissed my query as nonsense in that way that the close-minded do in the face of unexpected ideas - very satisfying.


30 posted on 07/09/2007 4:00:33 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: JmyBryan

it’s more obvious than even that good freeper........

the oceans floor per this article is riddled with bumps or volcanic attempted activity, the number given 201,055 is what is seen or known today,how many more a month or decade from now ? More, certainly. So why so many there?

How close to the core is the oceans floor,Closer that sea level to be sure and where is there greater pressure on that oceans floor nearest to the core,Why below the sheer mass and weight of all that water as opposed to sea level and no water or weight.........

The sheer number of bumps is evidence the water and her weight can control eruptions under water...Not with out release or venting . To assume this news is new is silly
or needed for one to convince another the end is near........

Ever put a pork chop in a pan....Add Salt ? Why ?
Ever make home made ice cream? Ever use rock salt ?

What do these two have in common ?

A salty ocean doesn’t boil or freeze to impass and
is a God given “blow out preventer” of the heat that
could generate unchecked.


31 posted on 07/09/2007 4:10:59 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: JmyBryan

There are massive gold deposits around those geothermal vents, where the mineral-laden water cools and the heavy metals precipitate. You are looking at places where profound wealth is right there on the sea floor.


32 posted on 07/09/2007 4:13:27 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: statered

Let’s have a class action lawsuit against all these volcanoes for causing global warming.

Then we can use the fines to buy Al Gore carbon offsets and offsets for Michael Moore’s flatulence.

There, global warming is solved. We’ve located the culprits, sued them with the help of John Edwards, and used the fines to buy Gore’s carbon credits.

End of problem. Let’s all go home, to the beach, to LIVE AID or whatever the latest celebrity self-toast concert is out there.

I hear that fried penguin is delicious.


33 posted on 07/09/2007 4:18:21 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: advertising guy
....Why are the Oceans salty ?........

You had to ask!


34 posted on 07/09/2007 4:18:59 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: COBOL2Java

oh my God in heaven...no wonder whales beach themselves

can you imagine the carbon credits that butt blowby could earn


35 posted on 07/09/2007 4:21:13 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy
neither of your assertions are true.one minerals were not the source and prove life scientifically beyond 22 thousand years........Carbon dating is science proveable to 14 thousand years and the “scale” is generated on assumption, not science fact.

So what .... God built the world already OLD? I worship Jehovah, not Loki.

36 posted on 07/09/2007 4:26:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Sundog

Good place to bump this thread for later reading. Thar’s gold in them thar... uh... hills.


37 posted on 07/09/2007 4:31:58 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: Centurion2000

Loki ?


38 posted on 07/09/2007 4:36:14 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: blam
Planet has a Fever! Or Global Scarification! Or Global Acne! Or Global Something!


39 posted on 07/09/2007 4:53:26 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: blam
No mention of catastrophe is complete without...


WE'RE DOOMED!

40 posted on 07/09/2007 5:13:11 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: uglybiker

Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 07/09/2007 5:16:12 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: bmwcyle
To be followed shortly by...


42 posted on 07/09/2007 5:21:17 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: uglybiker

That Northern Hemisphere Global Warming known as Summer will kill us all.


43 posted on 07/09/2007 5:24:14 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: advertising guy

Rivers have been dumping dissolved salts from land into the oceans, for billions of years.


44 posted on 07/09/2007 8:53:13 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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self-ping.


45 posted on 07/09/2007 8:54:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (This tagline optimized for the Mosaic browser. Profile updated Monday, July 9, 2007.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

prove it...saying it don’t prove it so.


46 posted on 07/09/2007 8:59:18 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_salt

This salt is dug up from the ground. It has way too high a sulphur content for it to have been underground reserves of dried-up ancient seas.

This isn’t to be confused with halite, which is sodium chloride from underground deposits.


47 posted on 07/09/2007 9:11:17 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

good dd’s but you did not prove 30 k years science fact much less a billion as quoted by you


48 posted on 07/09/2007 9:14:14 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I’m truely not being advesarial. A million or a billion years ago.........cannot science fact be proven


49 posted on 07/09/2007 9:15:27 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Sundog
There are massive gold deposits around those geothermal vents...

As soon as Bush signs LOST you'll be able to get a gold recovery permit from the UN.

50 posted on 07/09/2007 9:15:39 PM PDT by kitchen (Hey, Pericles. What are the three things a ruler must know?)
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