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GOP Senator admits link to escort service [D.C. Madam]
Politico ^ | 7/9/07 | Carrie Budoff

Posted on 07/09/2007 8:55:07 PM PDT by freespirited

Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) acknowledged Monday night that his number appears on telephone records of the alleged D.C. Madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, and issued an apology.

“This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible,” Vitter said in a statement issued by his office.

“Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling,'' he added. "Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there -- with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.”

Vitter did not disclose exactly when the incidents took place, but said it was before he ran for the Senate in 2004.

Vitter, 46, then became Louisiana’s first Republican senator since the end of Reconstruction and has built a reputation as a solid conservative, opposing abortion rights, same-sex marriage and gun control. Last month, he took a leading role in efforts to kill the comprehensive immigration overhaul bill.

A Harvard graduate and former Rhodes Scholar, Vitter was elected to the House in 1999, filling the seat vacated by Rep. Bob Livingston, who was headed toward the House speakership in 1998 when he was forced to reveal his marital infidelities.

In 2000, Vitter was included in a Newhouse News Service story about the strain of congressional careers on families.

His wife, Wendy, was asked by the Newhouse News reporter: If her husband were as unfaithful as Livingston or former President Bill Clinton, would she be as forgiving as Hillary Rodham Clinton?

“I’m a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary,” Wendy Vitter told Newhouse News. “If he does something like that, I’m walking away with one thing, and it’s not alimony, trust me.”

“I think fear is a very good motivating factor in a marriage,” she added. “Don’t put fear down.”

Vitter’s revelation Monday comes a month after Hustler magazine Publisher Larry Flynt offered $1 million for information about illicit sexual relations with members of Congress. Flynt made a same pitch in October 1998, playing a role in Livingstons outing.

Palfrey posted the complete phone records of her client list on the Internet Monday night. The list for Pamela Martin and Associates dates back to 1994.

She is accused of running a prostitution ring catering to Washington’s elite. She faces federal racketeering and conspiracy charges based on allegations that she earned $2 million operating a prostitution service from 1993 to 2006.

Palfrey, however, has said that her company was legal operation that offered sexual fantasy services.

Her lawyer, Montgomery Sibley Blair, began distributing copies of the phone records to the media last week after a judge lifted an injunction that had previously prevented Palfrey from doing so.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: dcmadam; palfrey; prostitution; vitter
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Lovely.
1 posted on 07/09/2007 8:55:09 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited
Hey,it’s only sex...and assuming that he hasn’t perjured himself in this matter then everything’s just duckey.
2 posted on 07/09/2007 8:58:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: freespirited

Didn’t ABC say months ago that there were no names of interest on that list? Hmmm.... Did they lie to us?


3 posted on 07/09/2007 9:04:31 PM PDT by Balke
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To: Balke

Here are the phone records.
http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/Jeane10c.html


4 posted on 07/09/2007 9:13:19 PM PDT by mazza
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To: mazza

That site is down.


5 posted on 07/09/2007 9:14:31 PM PDT by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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To: freespirited

It must be payback for opposing illegal immigration amnesty. It is funny how no Democrats are on the list of customers. If more Republicans are on the list, their names will be released a day or two before election day.


6 posted on 07/09/2007 9:17:36 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: freespirited
Let's see, if you are a Dem President you can get a blow job in the White House and it is ok with the Liberals. If you are a Republican it is not OK to have sex with a prostitute.

Dems=good Republicans=BAD, no matter what they do.

7 posted on 07/09/2007 9:24:48 PM PDT by calex59
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To: freespirited
His wife, Wendy, was asked by the Newhouse News reporter: If her husband were as unfaithful as Livingston or former President Bill Clinton, would she be as forgiving as Hillary Rodham Clinton?

“I’m a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary,” Wendy Vitter told Newhouse News. “If he does something like that, I’m walking away with one thing, and it’s not alimony, trust me.”

“I think fear is a very good motivating factor in a marriage,” she added. “Don’t put fear down.”

So then why is she still married to him?

What Vitter did was flat out wrong...no two ways about it...but I have no sympathy or respect for the wife.

Why have principles when you could be a social climber.

8 posted on 07/09/2007 9:28:26 PM PDT by yahoo (There IS a solution to illegal immigration. It's called the Mexipult.)
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To: freespirited
This woman Palfrey, may well plead for mercy if facing prison time.

She appears to have shown none herself.

9 posted on 07/09/2007 9:30:28 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: freespirited

Good for Vitter. Confession is a cleansing thing, and this is the best way to handle something like this. Most people who have truly repented have no problem talking about their past, in my experience. Especially when the family has already forgiven and gone past it.


10 posted on 07/09/2007 9:32:36 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: calex59

Let’s see, if you are a Dem President you can get a blow job in the White House and it is ok with the Liberals. If you are a Republican it is not OK to have sex with a prostitute.
Dems=good Republicans=BAD, no matter what they do.

That’s because once upon a time Republicans tried to be different than Democrats by holding themselves to a higher moral standard.

But it’s becoming increasingly obvious from immigration to spending to surrender to moral ethics, a lot of Republicans have become Democrats.


11 posted on 07/09/2007 9:36:11 PM PDT by acsuc99
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To: Wilhelm Tell
It is funny how no Democrats are on the list of customers.

First of all this a madame who offered women to heterosexuals. That alone excludes a lot of Democrats, both the closeted and uncloseted alike. Second, drunkedness and drug addiction causes one to lose interest in sex whether licit or illicit. Of course, I am most notably illuding to the congressional father and son act of Kennedy and Kennedy.

12 posted on 07/09/2007 9:37:47 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: calex59

Heck, if you are a Democrat Senator, it is is taken to be an admirable example of love and diversity if your gay lover runs a gay prostitution ring out of your apartment. And the feminists treated Bill Clinton like he was a hero.


13 posted on 07/09/2007 9:40:43 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: yahoo

C’mon man - maybe she decided to forgive and keep the marriage going for the sake of the family and because she loves the man. I’ve been married 15 years and to my knowledge we have been faithful. But I’ve also learned to love and be loved in a way that goes beyond a simplistic “you screw up and you’re out”. It probably sounded good for her to SAY that, but when confronted with the reality she went another way.


14 posted on 07/09/2007 9:41:22 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain (Blame me - I voted for Bush)
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To: freespirited

Vitter had better check into rehab first thing tomorrow morning.


15 posted on 07/09/2007 9:41:26 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: freespirited

So let’s get this straight now, out of 13 YEARS of phone records, David Vitter’s phone number is the *only* one of interest?

While Charlie Daniels was right when he said ‘watch where ya go, and remember where ya been’, Vitter isn’t alone.

The others just haven’t had the spotlight hit them yet.


16 posted on 07/09/2007 9:46:04 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: freespirited

I wonder how many Kennedy or Clintons are on this list

I doubt Reagans, Bushies


17 posted on 07/09/2007 9:46:27 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: over3Owithabrain
It probably sounded good for her to SAY that, but when confronted with the reality she went another way.

And that's what I'm calling out that social climber on.

This is a marriage of convenience...she made that abundantly clear.

18 posted on 07/09/2007 9:48:17 PM PDT by yahoo (There IS a solution to illegal immigration. It's called the Mexipult.)
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To: linn37

Site is up but slow. I’ve got all 20 zip files for archival purposes :)


19 posted on 07/09/2007 9:56:18 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: freespirited

Gay, or straight?


20 posted on 07/09/2007 9:56:57 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: freespirited
Well, at least there’s one politician in the US who isn’t gay or screwing a child when they cheat on their spouse.
21 posted on 07/09/2007 9:58:14 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: Gay State Conservative
Hey,it’s only sex...and assuming that he hasn’t perjured himself in this matter then everything’s just duckey.

Sure this equal low self esteem, lack courage, can not deal with the real world, sneaky etc

22 posted on 07/09/2007 9:59:05 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Biblebelter

Ya know, those are excellent points!


23 posted on 07/09/2007 9:59:53 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Biblebelter
First of all this a madame who offered women to heterosexuals. That alone excludes a lot of Democrats, both the closeted and uncloseted alike.

LOL

24 posted on 07/09/2007 10:00:06 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is the Herbert Hoover of border security)
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To: yahoo
This is a marriage of convenience...she made that abundantly clear.

Or maybe she decided to forgive her husband and try to work things out for the sake of their marriage and four children rather than simply throwing her hands up, giving in, and walking away.

25 posted on 07/09/2007 10:01:01 PM PDT by Balke
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To: freespirited

He should have gotten a hot 25yo “intellectual valet” like Corzine.


26 posted on 07/09/2007 10:04:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Biblebelter

Like Mark Foley?


27 posted on 07/09/2007 10:04:34 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Balke
Nope, it's convenience. She likes the life of a Senator's wife, and does not want to give it up.

Otherwise, she would not have said what she did.

28 posted on 07/09/2007 10:10:22 PM PDT by yahoo (There IS a solution to illegal immigration. It's called the Mexipult.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Like Mark Foley?

He is an example of why the Republicans do not have much of a closet. When Republican leadership like Hastert mistakenly thinks he can keep such a fellow in the closet, he finds out the Dems and the press will conspire to clean the Republican closets 'round election time.

29 posted on 07/09/2007 10:12:52 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: freespirited

Out of the thousands of numbers posted from this book, the only one identified publicly so far is a Republican? Am I to beleive there will be no Democrats in the book?

I’m not holding my breath waiting to see any Democrat names listed in the lamestream media.


30 posted on 07/09/2007 10:18:30 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: calex59
Let's see, if you are a Dem President you can get a blow job in the White House and it is ok with the Liberals. If you are a Republican it is not OK to have sex with a prostitute.

More to the point, clinton did it in the workplace with an employee, in OUR office, working for US.

Vitter did it on his own time, it was a private matter.

31 posted on 07/09/2007 10:24:18 PM PDT by Wil H (So just what IS the Globe's optimum temperature?)
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To: linn37

Why!!!


32 posted on 07/09/2007 10:33:21 PM PDT by shadowcat
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To: freespirited
Him supporter Giuliani is starting to make a little more sense.
33 posted on 07/09/2007 10:34:46 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: yahoo

Nope, it's convenience. She likes the life of a Senator's wife, and does not want to give it up.

Otherwise, she would not have said what she did.

Except, he wasn't even a senator when she said that. It is entirely possible that, faced with the situation in real life, she takes a different opinion.

I for one, respect the woman for not just giving up on her marriage and honoring the vows that she took. Do you expect her to divorce her husband (and break up a family with four kids), just for the sake of being consistent with a statement that she made in response to a hypothetical question posed to her seven years ago?

34 posted on 07/09/2007 10:58:14 PM PDT by Balke
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To: ovrtaxt
You wrote, “Good for Vitter. Confession is a cleansing thing, and this is the best way to handle something like this.”

‘Good for Vitter’? What would be really good is if he resigns right now, right away, the sooner the better. Most men go their entire lives working hard, telling the truth, raising their children, and staying faithful to their wives. If the GOP truly stands for traditional values, then those GOP politicians caught with their pants down need to get out of public life. Let him do what the rest of us do if we should fail our marriage and destroy our reputations: focus on rebuilding that marriage and re-earning that reputation. He has no standing to do either on the taxpayer’s dime.

Further, it isn’t good enough to point to a Democratic Party sociopath like Bill Clinton and decry MSM double standards. The moral bar should be higher for GOP politicians. Why? Because character does count: bad human beings make bad political decisions. Another thing, too: the way Vitter referred to his transgression as a ‘sin’. I’m pretty sure frequenting a prostitute is a crime, even in D.C. By calling it a ‘sin’, he immediately took his actions from the political to the personal, as if it is solely a private matter of no public consequence.

The Democrats are keen on ‘re-framing’ various issues, as if wrong can be made right by some semantic sleight-of-hand. Sorry, no. That cannot be our way, or there truly is no difference between us and those we oppose. Such an action by an elected official is tantamount to a freezer filled with cash. It’s corrupt, illegal, and equally worthy of contempt and reprobation.

I’m not throwing stones from some sanctimonious high ground here. I’m a recovering drunk and addict, and I’ve plumbed moral depths no one should ever experience, but evidently unlike Vitter and those like him, I’m willing to own up to those moral lapses without advice from a bevy of image consultants and spin doctors.

35 posted on 07/09/2007 11:15:48 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: DakotaRed
I would have bet the ranch that the first names on the list would be republicans. That way it will soften the blow when the democrats names are released. That’s the way it works with the msm and Washington. Not that the repubs should get soft treatment. All of Washington is a cesspool.
36 posted on 07/09/2007 11:24:57 PM PDT by Post5203 (Waiting for the American Revolution Part II)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
“This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible”

Geeze dude. Are we reading about the same guy? He owned up and takes full responsibility.

I guess you and others here would like to see him kneeling in a soccer stadium with an AK47 agains his head, even after you admit yourself that you've had your own moral lapses. The reformed drinkers / smokers / etc. are the most sanctimonious I guess, even when speaking of others who claim to be reformed themselves.

Everbody should get off their high horse and reconsider the quote from the Senator I pasted above. When have you ever heard a Dem talk like that? That alone paints a picture of sincerity.

37 posted on 07/09/2007 11:30:11 PM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: freespirited

Who cares what these people do anymore, in the end we are the ones getting screwed.


38 posted on 07/09/2007 11:32:42 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: yahoo
Why have principles when you could be a social climber.

What evidence do you have that she stayed with him solely to climb the social ladder? You sound bitter. I've love to understnad what is driving your overly confident assessment of the woman's psychological mindset in choosing to stay with the guy. You have it all figured out, based on a 7 year old quote and a subsequent decision to remain with the guy.

The sanctimoniousness in this thread is amazing. What I'd give for a peak into your closet.

Exceptionally judgemental people, especially those who are wlling to lash out with minimal knowledge, are generally covering up for their own emotional baggage. What exactly are you projecting here?

39 posted on 07/09/2007 11:35:27 PM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: bluefish
Sanctimonious? Nope. I don’t concern myself overmuch with the moral shortcomings of others. We all fall short at one point or another and should, as a general rule, tend our own garden and mind our own business. So no, I don’t want to see the man ‘kneeling in a soccer stadium’ et al, or otherwise further humiliated. I just want to see him out of office. If he can’t be faithful to his wife, then he can’t be trusted in any other aspect of his life, either.

But it is bigger than that. Vitter didn’t just fail his wife, he failed his constituents and his country. While supposedly representing their interests, he placed himself in a position where he could be compromised and blackmailed—presumably even by a hostile foreign power, but more likely by one of the many powerful interest groups active in the Beltway who make it their business to gather dirt on public officials. Knowledge is power, after all.

As an aside, emotional confessions occurring after being caught red-handed are usually not acts of conscience. The term we are looking for here, I think, is ‘damage control’.

40 posted on 07/09/2007 11:56:09 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: freespirited

It’s just sex. I don’t really care if he had it with a prostitute. Prostitution is legal in some places and illegal in others. As long as he wasn’t using my money to do it, and he worked it out with his wife and his church, I don’t care. This is a non-story. I’m not sure why anyone would care, except the MSM who wiil use it for sport to try to bring down Republicans.


41 posted on 07/10/2007 12:03:32 AM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Your blackmail comment is actually a real concern. I will give you that. That is why the Clinton situation was so bad. We really don't know if we had already been blackmailed at one point.

As for: The term we are looking for here, I think, is ‘damage control’.

Perhaps, but the nature of the confession is head and shoulders above that of the typical Dem.

Clinton: "Listent to me real carefully. I did not have sex with that woman."

Kennedy: "The sleeping pills made me do it."

Typical Dem: "I made a mistake"

This Guy: "I sinned. I accept full responsibility."

It really is different and refreshing, don't you think?

42 posted on 07/10/2007 12:09:09 AM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: yahoo

you are awful judgemental there, mr. armchair quarterback


43 posted on 07/10/2007 12:13:36 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: de meanr

finally, a post that makes sense


44 posted on 07/10/2007 12:20:46 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: wafflehouse

whoops missed #2 lol


45 posted on 07/10/2007 12:21:51 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: freespirited

You knew it would be only the Republicans who would be leaked. Fortunately for Vitter, he’s not up again until 2010 and, by then, it will be old news.

As corrupt as most Louisiana pols seem to be, this won’t even show up on the Richter Scale.

FWIW, I think Vitter is smart to acknowledge it now and not let it simmer for weeks or months in a game of political “gotcha”. For that, at least, Vitter has more valor than a former Democrat president.


46 posted on 07/10/2007 12:35:47 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: bluefish

Are we reading about the same guy? He owned up and takes full responsibility. I guess you and others here would like to see him kneeling in a soccer stadium with an AK47 agains his head, even after you admit yourself that you've had your own moral lapses. The reformed drinkers / smokers / etc. are the most sanctimonious I guess, even when speaking of others who claim to be reformed themselves. Everbody should get off their high horse and reconsider the quote from the Senator I pasted above. When have you ever heard a Dem talk like that? That alone paints a picture of sincerity.

The fact that he apologized and took full responsibility doesn't mean that we (the voters) should just forget about it and let it go. I don't think it is asking too much to expect members of Congress to hold themselves to a moral standard higher than the average person. As leaders of our country they should be held to a higher standard.

Approximately 0.00000178% of the United States population are members of Congress. When such a tiny number represents all of the American people, I think it is perfectly reasonable to demand that members of Congress be held to far more exacting standards than the rest of us. Why shouldn't we demand the best from our representatives? Is it too much to ask that congressmen be moral and virtuous to not cheat on their wives?

47 posted on 07/10/2007 12:45:01 AM PDT by Balke
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To: Balke

I don’t really disagree with anything you said in the post to which I’m currently replying. I advanced the same arguments about Clinton and never bought the idea that you can separate the job of President from your personal life.

I was bothered by the silly speculation about the wife’s motivation for staying with the Senator, and moreso, that speculation be stated confidently as fact. That wasn’t about the Senator, or even the wife. There was something personal driving those silly comments.

Also, I was impressed with the nature of the Senator’s apology / confession itself (see my post just prior to yours) and was surprised nobody else had recognized the dramatic difference between that and a typical Dem confession. There was something in it that showed relative character. Character relative to a typical Dem getting busted at least.


48 posted on 07/10/2007 1:05:12 AM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: bluefish
You wrote, “It really is different and refreshing, don’t you think?”

Not so different—and given the context—not so refreshing, either. Remember: the evidence against Vitter was immediate and undeniable, while Clinton squirmed on that particular hook for awhile—and would’ve gotten away with it, too, had he not inadvertently left behind DNA evidence on a dress.

Again: it isn’t enough for someone like Vitter, an elected official, to simply apologize when he commits a corrupt act, no harm no foul. ‘Taking full responsibility’ only has meaning if taking that responsibility implies accepting the public and legal consequences of that act. When he publicly admitted to buying the services of a prostitute, he confessed to a crime, thus ‘taking full responsibility’ means he gets arrested, gets processed, gets a court date set, and appears before a judge or pleads out. That’s what happens if you or I commit a relatively minor misdemeanor and admit to it in public. Sins are private, crimes are public.

49 posted on 07/10/2007 1:36:35 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Rembrandt_fan
but evidently unlike Vitter and those like him, I’m willing to own up to those moral lapses

But that's exactly what he did!

This release of information isn't what prompted his change of heart, he did that long ago- as evidenced by his wife's joint response.

Sorry, if you do somehting wrong and try to cover it up, you should be toast. If you do something wrong (and we all do, as you've stated) and deal with it, and admit to it afterwards, that reveals a true depth of good character. Vitter passes. Bush did too, when he talked about his former alcoholism. Did you vote for him?

50 posted on 07/10/2007 4:09:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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