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Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson
ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: Dick Bachert

Thompson may just as well be another GWB instead of another Reagan. (Let’s face it - there will never be another Reagan, so stop looking for another).

GWB acted like a conservative on taxes,in his response to terrorism, Soc.Sec. reform, on the issues of abortion and EMBRYONIC stem-cell research, the UN, healthcare reform.

GWB acted like like a liberal on Medicare, the border, education, and federal spending.

That’s what Thompson will be, I believe, another GWB.

I dont think I want Queen Hillary, so I’ll vote Thompson.


21 posted on 07/10/2007 9:26:07 AM PDT by Vinny (What is a liberal? Someone that is a friend of every country but his own.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Compared to JulieAnnie, Fred most certainly IS a Reagan/Goldwater conservative.

But then again, when compared to,,,

a pro-authoritarian, pro-bullying govt, pro-intrusive govt, pro-more controlling 'Big Brother' type of govt,,,,,,

and a pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-litigation, gun-grabbing, gay rights crusading, arrogant, narcissistic New York LIBERAL lawyer like JulieAnnie,,,,

whose personal life is an absolute TRAIN WRECK (almost making Bill Clinton look like a decent family man and loving husband--if that is even possible),,,,

WHO ISN'T???

22 posted on 07/10/2007 9:26:19 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Since Goldwater, all prez elections have come down to who you gonna vote AGAINST!


23 posted on 07/10/2007 9:27:20 AM PDT by tailgunner
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To: Dick Bachert
Good Heavens! The man's the Antichrist!

< /s >

24 posted on 07/10/2007 9:27:23 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: Dick Bachert
Fred Thompson showed no conservative leadership in his eight years as Senator.

Where does one start with these bald-faced lies?

http://fredthompsonpresidency.blogspot.com/search/label/Federalism

Federalism:

Federalism- official position 2002 Federalism

The Framers of the Constitution envisioned a federal government of limited and defined powers, with most governmental activity taking place at the state and local levels. This fundamental principle of "federalism," embodied in the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, has been circumvented in recent decades as the federal government has infringed on state sovereignty and concentrated more power in Washington. Senator Thompson has been working to reverse this trend and to return power to states and communities. He has been an independent voice for a smaller federal government, and has cast his vote against measures to federalize what should be state and local issues.

There is renewed interest in the relationship between the federal government, states and localities as Congress seeks to improve the effectiveness of federal programs and determine which programs are best administered at the state or local levels. The federal presence in state and local government is large, witnessed by the fact that federal grants comprise 23 percent of total state spending. However, many things required by the federal government are never paid for by the federal government. Senator Thompson is concerned with the imposition of unfunded federal mandates on state and local governments, which force our nation's governor's, mayors, and other state and local elected officials to raise taxes or cut services in order to pay for them.

The Tenth Amendment was designed to protect states from Washington's big government tendencies ? but this pillar of our Democracy was attacked by the Clinton Administration. In 1998, President Clinton tried to overturn the long-standing Reagan executive order on federalism with a new order that justified federal intervention in state and local affairs. Senator Thompson offered an amendment on the Senate floor, which passed unanimously, calling on the President to revoke his executive order. The new executive order was suspended shortly thereafter.

In June of 1999, Senator Thompson introduced the Federalism Accountability Act of 1999 (S. 1214). The bill was approved by a bi-partisan vote of 12-2 by the Governmental Affairs Committee in August of that year, but did not pass the Senate prior to the end of the 106th Congress. The Federal Accountability Act would have required the report accompanying any public bill or joint resolution from a Senate and House committee or conference report to contain an explicit statement on the extent to which the bill or resolution preempts state or local government law and the reasons for this preemption. The Act would also have established a rule of construction providing that courts would not construe a statute or regulation to preempt state or local law unless the statute or regulation explicitly stated that such preemption was intended or unless there was a direct conflict with state law.

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That is as conservative a legislative proposal I have seen over the last decade.

25 posted on 07/10/2007 9:27:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Fred lost me when he started hiring Bush’s old cronies.


26 posted on 07/10/2007 9:27:58 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Dick Bachert

Might as well deal with all of this now. Is it true? Isn’t it true? Does it matter if it’s true? Is it in context, or not? [”It”=any of the statements in the article.]

A genuine quest for the truth is good. I just cannot stand hit-pieces that some around here post, followed by a smarmy “Oh, I could vote for Fred. He’s my #2 choice.”


27 posted on 07/10/2007 9:28:37 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Dick Bachert
Near the very beginning of this hit-piece is this:

Rumors circulated that Thompson was lazy, uninterested in the daily grind that comes with being a Senator—

This is pure emotion, an unverified charge that has no place in a serious article.

28 posted on 07/10/2007 9:29:13 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Anonymous Rex

That’s fine. If that’s all that turned you off, you never were in Fred’s corner anyway. No loss.


29 posted on 07/10/2007 9:29:42 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: HoustonTech
I say beware of conservatives that attack other conservatives who use liberal talking points in their attacks against other conservatives.

I have that very problem with Dinesh D'Souza.

30 posted on 07/10/2007 9:29:43 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: Dick Bachert

“Once the mob found out Fred was not the “perfect Messiah”, they cried out “Crucify him!”


31 posted on 07/10/2007 9:30:09 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: trisham

Good point. Tells a lot about the author’s point of view as he wrote. Something to keep in mind.


32 posted on 07/10/2007 9:30:46 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: pogo101

“whom else are we to choose” Its shameful that the gop puts us in this position.


33 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:00 AM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
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To: pogo101
Duncan Hunter probably cannot win

Who knows? There was a time when many thought Gerald Ford was more electable than Ronald Reagan. I'd certainly favor Thompson over any of the Dems, but right now I'm more in favor of supporting the candidate who is the most robust supporter of strong conservatism and then letting the general election take care of itself.

34 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:16 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Dick Bachert

btt


35 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:33 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Dick Bachert

Anyone give any background about conservative HQ?


36 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:42 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Dick Bachert
http://www.imwithfred.com/

All my 2008 campaign contributions are going directly to Fred.

Not one penny to the RNC.

37 posted on 07/10/2007 9:32:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Anyone who thinks Thomspson is a movement conservative is going to be disappointed.

I think most of us understand that he is a moderate conservative ... which puts him to the left of Hunter, Tancredo, and company ... but to the right of Rudy, McCain, and Romney. And probably somewhat to the right of Dubya.

The calculation that many conservatives are making is that a likable, electable nominee who is 80% conservative ... but has a penchant for communicating common sense conservatism to Joe Citizen ... is better than a 100% guy who who demonstrates little or no appeal to non-ideological voters and centrists.


38 posted on 07/10/2007 9:32:00 AM PDT by Oliver Optic (Never blame on strategery that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Gee, lemme guess. You like L. Ron?


39 posted on 07/10/2007 9:32:08 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: dirtboy

Good catch!


40 posted on 07/10/2007 9:32:10 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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