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Cleric in radical Pakistan mosque killed (Abdul Rashid Ghazi, public face of pro-Taliban Red Mosque)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/07 | Zarar Khan - ap

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:30:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - A radical cleric whose besieged mosque sought to impose strict Islamic morality on the Pakistani capital was killed Tuesday after refusing to respond to troops who demanded his surrender, officials said.

About 50 militants and eight soldiers died when the military stormed the sprawling Red Mosque compound.

Abdul Rashid Ghazi, the public face of the pro-Taliban mosque that challenged the government's writ in Islamabad, had vowed to die rather than give himself up.

An army official said Ghazi had received bullet wounds and when he was told to surrender, he gave no reply. Commandos then fired another volley of bullets and found Ghazi dead, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to speak to media.

Javed Iqbal Cheema, spokesman for the Interior Ministry, confirmed Ghazi's death and said the cleric's body was still lying in the compound, and that "battle hardened" militants were defending themselves.

Officials, who earlier said the military held back on an all-out assault on Ghazi because there were children being held in the basement as hostages, offered no details on who was with him when he died.

"The government is using full force. This is naked aggression," Ghazi said hours before his death. "My martyrdom is certain now."

Troops had stormed the sprawling mosque compound in the capital before dawn after efforts to bring a peaceful end to a weeklong standoff with security forces failed.

Ghazi and his brother Abdul Aziz, the mosque's chief cleric, had been using the mosque as a base to send out radicalized students to enforce their version of Islamic morality, including abducting alleged prostitutes and trying to "re-educate" them at the mosque.

Khalid Pervez, the city's top administrator, said as many as 50 women were the first to be freed by the militants and had emerged from the complex following the escape of 26 children.

Mohammed Khalid Jamil, a reporter for the local Aaj television network, was among journalists who said they saw dozens of women and girls walking on a road away from the mosque. They were wearing burqas, he said.

A military official who demanded anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press, said the women included the wife and daughter of Abdul Aziz, who was arrested while trying to flee the complex last week.

It was not clear how many noncombatants were being held hostage or were staying behind because they believed in the mosque's cause. Last week, a number of those who left the mosque, including young women, said their colleagues were there of their own free will and prepared to die.

Army spokesman Maj. Gen. Waheed Arshad said hostages were still being held and that fighting was intense: "We are fighting room by room." He added that stun grenades were being used to avoid casualties among the hostages.

He said about 50 militants have been killed in Tuesday's assault, while eight soldiers had died and 29 were wounded.

Abdul Sattar Edhi, head of the private relief agency Edhi Foundation, told reporters that the army had asked him to prepare 400 white shrouds used for covering the dead.

The siege of one of the capital's most prominent mosques was prompted by clashes last Tuesday between security forces and supporters of the mosque's hardline clerics. More than 80 people have been killed in the fighting since July 3.

The vigilante anti-vice campaign has proved an embarrassment to President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, a key U.S. ally in its war on terror, and underlined his administration's failure to control extremist religious schools.

But a major loss of life at the Red Mosque could further turn public opinion against the president, who already faces mounting opposition for his bungled attempts to fire the country's chief justice.

In Washington, a State Department spokesman, Tom Casey, said the militants were given many warnings before the commandos moved in.

"The government of Pakistan has proceeded in a responsible way," Casey said. "All governments have a responsibility to preserve order."

To protest the siege, more than 100 armed tribesmen and religious students near the northwestern town of Batagram temporarily blocked a road that leads to neighboring China, police officials said.

And in the eastern city of Multan, more than 500 Islamic religious school students rallied, chanting "Down with Musharraf" and blocking a main road by burning tires.

The U.S. Embassy recommended that Americans in Pakistan to limit their movement in the area of the northwestern city of Peshawar, warning that "terrorist elements" were threatening attacks on Pakistani government, police and army institutions in retaliation for the Red Mosque siege.

The army raid began about 4 a.m. after a government-backed effort led by ex-premier Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain to try and negotiate a peaceful end to the standoff failed. One cleric in the mediation team, Rehmatullah Khalil, accused Musharraf of sabotaging a draft agreement with the mosque's chief cleric, which the government denied.

Soon after the mediators left the environs of the mosque, commandos attacked from three directions and quickly cleared the ground floor of the mosque, Arshad said. Some 20 children who rushed toward the advancing troops were brought to safety, he said.

Besides the women, Arshad said about 50 suspected militants, some of them youngsters, have been captured or emerged from the mosque since fighting began Tuesday.

Arshad said the army attack was now focused on the women's school. He said the entire compound included 75 rooms, large basements and expansive courtyards. About 80 percent of it had been cleared, he said.

An officer, who demanded anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press, said troops had demanded four times that Ghazi surrender, but his followers responded with gunfire. Ghazi said he was ready to die rather than give up, the officer said.

Arshad said the well-trained militants were armed with machine guns, rocket launchers and gasoline bombs and had booby-trapped some areas.

Pakistan's Religious Affairs Minister Mohammed Ijaz ul-Haq said foreign militants were among those fighting with the mosque defenders, quoting Ghazi.

Ghazi told the private Geo TV network in a telephone interview about two hours after Tuesday's assault began that his mother had been wounded by gunshot. One of Ghazi's aides, Abdul Rahman, later said she had died.

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Associated Press reporters Munir Ahmad, Sadaqat Jan and Stephen Graham contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 07/10/2007 9:30:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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In this undated photo released on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 by the Inter Services Public Relations, shown is an aerial view of the Lal Masjid, or Red Mosque complex in Islamabad, Pakistan. Pakistani troops attempted to flush out holdouts entrenched inside a women's religious school after raiding Islamabad's Red Mosque in fierce fighting Tuesday that left about 50 militants and eight soldiers dead, the army said. The photo was not related to the recent siege of the mosque. (AP Photo/Inter Services Public Relations, HO)


2 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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Abdul Rashid Ghazi, a top cleric at Islamabad's Lal Masjid, or Red Mosque, seen during a news conference in Islamabad in this June 23, 2007 file photo. REUTERS/Faisal Mahmood


3 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

He will not be missed.


4 posted on 07/10/2007 9:34:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge

Abdul Rashid Ghazi, dead.
Good now let’s go after another hundred thousand or so.


5 posted on 07/10/2007 9:36:46 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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Pakistani soldiers return after storming the Lal Masjid, or Red mosque, in Islamabad July 10, 2007. Pakistani forces killed a rebel Islamist leader and more than 50 militants on Tuesday at the climax of 15 hours of fighting in an Islamabad mosque compound to end a week-long siege. REUTERS/Mian Khursheed (PAKISTAN)


6 posted on 07/10/2007 9:38:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

To paraphrase General Patton: “It’s my job to make some other SOB die for his cause...”

TC


7 posted on 07/10/2007 9:44:29 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: NormsRevenge
This was what most needed to happen.

If Ghazi were imprisoned and put on trial it would be a circus of Islamist propaganda.

He dies as a coward who used women and children as human shields. The TV interviews will be with the wives of the soldiers he killed and the hero soldiers who terminated him.

Everyone says these scum will be regarded as martyrs: the majority of Pakistanis will not view him as a martyr - any more than the majority of Americans view idiots like the Weavers as martyrs.

8 posted on 07/10/2007 9:49:36 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, at least they don’t have to look very far for a bedsheet to cover up the body.


9 posted on 07/10/2007 11:27:29 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Ben Hecks

***Well, at least they don’t have to look very far for a bedsheet to cover up the body.***

From what I have read about them the rag wrapped around the head is a burial shroud they have with them at all times.


10 posted on 07/10/2007 11:49:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Muslims?

When I heard that they had weapons and had taken over a church I thought for sure they were Methodists. ;)

11 posted on 07/10/2007 2:53:10 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (The last Americans to allow unchecked immigration...... were Native.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is where the 2015 San Bernadino shooter gal hailed from.


12 posted on 12/05/2015 6:28:30 AM PST by piasa
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To: NormsRevenge

Good. Now go kill everyone who’s ever set foot in that building. Then raze it to the ground.

Maybe, just maybe, I might begin to believe you’re approaching seriousness.

L


13 posted on 12/05/2015 6:30:35 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: wideawake

Umm... Vicki Weaver and her son were murdered. That’s pretty clear.

Were it not for the Feds swooping in Horiuchi would have done some serious prison time.

L


14 posted on 12/05/2015 6:32:23 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Rules....


15 posted on 12/05/2015 6:38:21 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPyes but now I must concentratc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: Lurker
By definition, you cannot be "murdered" if you are actively exchanging gunfire with law enforcement (Samuel Weaver), or if you have deliberately put yourself into the crossfire (Vicki Weaver).

It's a bad joke to imagine otherwise. It would require a legal system based on an assumption of guilt rather than innocence.

16 posted on 12/05/2015 6:46:10 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

“By definition, you cannot be “murdered” if you are actively exchanging gunfire with law enforcement”

Unless, of course, the LE in question is on your property without the benefit of a duly constituted warrant, do not identify themselves, and fire upon you first without warning. All of which the Marshalls did.

At that moment they ceased to be LE and became assassins.

Why wasn’t Randy Weaver convicted of being an accessory to murder? Why wasnt a single member of the Branch Davidians convicted of murder?

Answer: The juries in both cases found the killings of LE legally justified.

Vicki and Randy Weaver were not “exchanging gunfire” with anyone when Vicki was murdered. Randy had his back to LE and was running back into the cabin when Horiuchi deliberately targeted an unarmed woman who was holding a baby in her arms.

Stop perpetuating lies.

L


17 posted on 12/05/2015 7:20:34 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker
They had warrants, and Samuel Weaver wasn't even on his own property.

Speak from facts, not fervor.

Weaver was acquitted because the case came down to a matter of "he said/he said." Because of the presumption of innocence, the tie goes to the defendant.

No law enforcement personnel were convicted either.

The description of the action you offer is Randy Weaver's - not a verifiable one.

And no one among the Branch Davidians were convicted because any relevant evidence against any of them (if there was any) was destroyed in the fire.

18 posted on 12/05/2015 7:32:15 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

“They had warrants, and Samuel Weaver wasn’t even on his own property.”

Not with them, and they fired first. Both proven at trial.

Horiuchi was charged but never tried. Do you know why that is?

“The description of the action you offer is Randy Weaver’s - not a verifiable one”

A jury of his peers verified it. Do you not believe in the jury system?

There was literally tons of evidence the prosecution used against the Davidians. The jury still found the killings justifiable homicide under the law.

Look it up.

L


19 posted on 12/05/2015 8:05:25 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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