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BBC admits to relations with Hamas--Johnston's kidnappers received $5 million & million bullets
National Review ^ | July 10, 2007 | Tom Gross

Posted on 07/10/2007 1:53:52 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

That Hamas and the BBC have close relations isn’t exactly a revelation. See here and here, for example.

But finally the BBC, the world’s biggest broadcaster, has itself admitted to being in touch with Hamas – the group that unlike other Islamic terror groups, has made a habit of deliberately targeting children (in school buses, bat mitzvah birthday parties, pizzerias filled with kids and so on).

A senior BBC executive has confirmed that the BBC held private meetings with Hamas
– whose gunmen usually wear ski masks to hide their identity – in the days leading up to the release of reporter Alan Johnston.

In a new posting on the blog of the BBC News website, BBC Middle East bureau editor Simon Wilson confirms that he held meetings with Hamas leaders in Gaza and Damascus to discuss Johnston’s fate. In his piece, titled “The Joy of Alan,” Wilson hints he was ordered to do so by more senior officials at the BBC.

Wilson also reveals that he and several colleagues were nearly kidnapped themselves on one of their outings to Gaza:

One grim day, a group of masked and armed men apparently looking for a hostage turned up 20 minutes after one of my colleagues had just left a building in Gaza City. Shortly afterwards, a contact in a western intelligence service gave us chilling and compelling evidence that our every move was being followed by a car full of armed gang members.

The BBC isn’t the only organization apparently now cooperating with Hamas. Yesterday in an interview with Italy’s RAI TV, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Gaza’s Hamas rulers were forging ever-closer ties with al-Qaeda and inviting al-Qaeda operatives to enter Gaza. “Thanks to the support of Hamas, al-Qaeda is entering Gaza,” Abbas said.

Would Wilson and other BBC officials also now like to comment on this report in Al-Hayat Al-Jadida – especially located by my sources in Gaza – that Jaysh Al-Islam (the so-called Army of Islam group who were holding Johnston) received $5 million and a million Kalashnikov rifle bullets in the deal to release Johnston?

I think British TV license-payers are entitled to know what is done with their money.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alanjohnston; antisemites; appeasement; bbc; collaborators; dealwiththedevil; enemedia; goebbelswouldbeproud; hamas; hangthemhigh; hostages; islamicsupremacists; islamonazism; israel; lordhawhaw; mediabias; mediawar; nevillechamberlain; proterrorist; terrorism; traitors; treason; waronterror

1 posted on 07/10/2007 1:53:56 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

No wonder the aupply of 7.62X39 has been scant. One can only hope a reasonable proportion of these rounds were ‘gimmicked’ to detonate in the rifle...


2 posted on 07/10/2007 1:56:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
No wonder the aupply of 7.62X39 has been scant. One can only hope a reasonable proportion of these rounds were ‘gimmicked’ to detonate in the rifle...

That's what I was thinking. But, considering the source, the chances are slim.

I wish we'd outfit some cameras with hidden guns. We'd get some important targets and once they caught on they'd be camera shy (which would deny them one their main weapons).
3 posted on 07/10/2007 2:02:16 PM PDT by Jaysun (Certified thread hijacker since 7-7-07 (by restornu and blu))
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To: Ooh-Ah

Peace in our Time


4 posted on 07/10/2007 2:04:04 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: Ooh-Ah

The word “collaborator” used to be the most vile insult in several languages in post-WW2 Europe.

Those days, like that generation, are gone.


5 posted on 07/10/2007 2:07:52 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Old Sarge
The word “collaborator” used to be the most vile insult in several languages in post-WW2 Europe.

The British Broadcasting Collaborators. I like the sound of that.

6 posted on 07/10/2007 2:11:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
B=BOLSHEVIKSB=BROADCASTINGC=COMMUNISM
7 posted on 07/10/2007 2:26:53 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The folks at the Beeb seem themselves as citizens of the world; not British, and certainly not people who would ally themselves with the evil Bush.

This was just a transaction to free a fellow citizen of the world who was being held by people who are victims of the Americans and Jews.

That’s just the way they look at it.


8 posted on 07/10/2007 2:28:17 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Ooh-Ah
Although one could put one's self in Johnston's shoes and thank their lucky stars, a sobering thought is that the money will not last. If this is confirmed, then it surely means that some luckless devil, will eventually be kidnapped. How could this not be?

I believe that Johnston fell over himself to support the anti-Jewish cause. If this is wrong, then I stand corrected.

There are but few, who can recall the BBC in WW2. We would tune in to their overseas service. There would be a prolonged hush. Then a majestic voice- authoritative and lordly would sound off.

Ici Londres.....This is London.

Then Beethoven's Fifth would start. It would sound the V sign in morse code. People risked the concentration camp (so we were told) to tune in. This in occupied Europe.

Gone with the bloomin' wind.

9 posted on 07/10/2007 2:29:46 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Smokin' Joe

3 pages to choose from.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/browseammo.aspx?c=96&s=953


10 posted on 07/10/2007 2:34:01 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Ooh-Ah

bump


11 posted on 07/10/2007 2:34:22 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Ooh-Ah

Next time they will want 10 mil and a nuke..


12 posted on 07/10/2007 2:45:35 PM PDT by angelcindy (Where's the Fence?????)
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To: Ooh-Ah
“Would Wilson and other BBC officials also now like to comment on this report in Al-Hayat Al-Jadida – especially located by my sources in Gaza – that Jaysh Al-Islam (the so-called Army of Islam group who were holding Johnston) received $5 million and a million Kalashnikov rifle bullets in the deal to release Johnston?”

This is good news for the families of anyone killed or injured by Jaysh Al-Islam. They can now sue the BBC for damages.

13 posted on 07/10/2007 2:53:00 PM PDT by monday
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To: Ooh-Ah
Image hosted by Photobucket.com the family of anybody killed by hamas now... should be able to sue the BBC out of existence!!!
14 posted on 07/10/2007 2:57:19 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Jaysun
I wish we'd outfit some cameras with hidden guns. We'd get some important targets and once they caught on they'd be camera shy (which would deny them one their main weapons).

The treasonous Western press is the single greatest asset the Jihadis have in this war.

If the CIA and other intelligence agencies were allowed to do their jobs they would be spreading disinformation designed to make Muslims distrust reporters and camera crews- Tell them they are all spies, that the Mossad secretly control Reuters, that CNN cameras are used as homing beacons for air strikes, etc. Muslims are exceptionally paranoid and conspiracy prone, make use of it.

The relationship between our press and our enemies is too cozy and we should be doing more to disrupt the partnership.

15 posted on 07/10/2007 3:03:01 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

1,000,000 bullets? Gee, and here I thought England enforced strict gun control, pretty much banning firearm possession and useage.


16 posted on 07/10/2007 3:06:00 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: Mad_as_heck
The relationship between our press and our enemies is too cozy and we should be doing more to disrupt the partnership.

I agree but can't imagine what might be done.
17 posted on 07/10/2007 3:07:13 PM PDT by Jaysun (Certified thread hijacker since 7-7-07 (by restornu and blu))
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I don’t think that Johnston was kidnapped at all. The BBC is on the terrorists’ side. Why kidnap a BBC reporter?
Like the case of the Italian communist journalist who was self kidnapped in Iraq, the Johnston affair was probably another case of a journalist’s trying to help the terrorists by raising money for them. Despicable.


18 posted on 07/10/2007 3:33:10 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: monday

“This is good news for the families of anyone killed or injured by Jaysh Al-Islam. They can now sue the BBC for damages.”

Actually, I hope Mossad begins open season on these BBC s.


19 posted on 07/10/2007 3:47:36 PM PDT by Levante
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To: Smokin' Joe

A million rounds is only a thousand cases.That might be a treasure trove to a bunch of Hamas murderers,but not much of a bump in the supply world wide.I hope they kill each other with the ammo,the five million bucks can be spent on funerals..


20 posted on 07/10/2007 4:07:32 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

bump


21 posted on 07/10/2007 4:15:07 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Ooh-Ah
I think British TV license-payers are entitled to know what is done with their money.

And if they aren't mad as Hades, they deserve what they get.

22 posted on 07/10/2007 4:16:34 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“One can only hope a reasonable proportion of these rounds were ‘gimmicked’ to detonate in the rifle...’

As Clarence Darrow replied to the insulted judge of the Scopes trial who said, “One hopes you are not impugning the honor of the court,” “One is entitled to hope.”


23 posted on 07/10/2007 4:17:45 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Ooh-Ah
I’m scratchimh my head on this one.

While I do understand that the BBC is apparently salivating over the prospect of starting to murder Jewish children again - after all, the job wasn’t properly finished by 1945, now was it? - I do not see how this is even remotely legal under modern anti terrorist laws. and Hamas is designated a terrorist group, yes?

24 posted on 07/10/2007 7:36:41 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Ooh-Ah

i’d be interested in the followup of this story.


25 posted on 07/10/2007 8:43:50 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The British hanged Lord Haw Haw after WWII. Start the treason trials within the BBC. No vigilante justice, by the books law and order, those who aid terrorists need to pay the price.


26 posted on 07/10/2007 9:31:56 PM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Ooh-Ah

If the BBC delivered arms to Hamas, according to American Constitutional law, Britain would be a non trade, terrorist sponsoring country as the BBC is a government news service.

What difference between the US State Department giving 20 Million in cash to Fatah and the British Government giving arms to Hamas is simply that they are not “our terrorists”, Fatah is.


27 posted on 07/10/2007 10:06:20 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Jaysun

Planting a military version of LoJack would be nice...(but, of course, that wouldn’t be considered fair).


28 posted on 07/10/2007 10:14:23 PM PDT by gdc314
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To: Smokin' Joe; OldArmy52; Farmer Dean
...a million Kalashnikov rifle bullets...

Who woulda thunk Hamas were reloaders!?

29 posted on 07/11/2007 1:31:56 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The reporter should have been allowed to diem rather than give terrorist 5 million in seed money and millions of bullets all of which will kill far more than one reporter.

The heads of the BBC that did this belong in jail for life IMO.


30 posted on 07/11/2007 1:36:35 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Gondring

LOL! I generally assume the media wouldn’t know a bullet from a cartridge if they had to swallow it. They use the terms interchangeably.


31 posted on 07/11/2007 7:23:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
LOL! I generally assume the media wouldn’t know a bullet from a cartridge if they had to swallow it. They use the terms interchangeably.

At least the AP Style Manual has a whole section on firearms to clarify such terms. Having a special section (for their reporters to ignore :-) does make it rather obvious how few in the media are familiar with such a topic. I guarantee that when I was an editor, though, this error was never made in stories I worked on!

Or, "on which I worked." ;-)

32 posted on 07/11/2007 4:24:00 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Not to worry, BBC,CBS and Perkie Katy are in negotiations to dock her salary to pay for the extortion money paid to HAMAS


33 posted on 07/11/2007 4:26:56 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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