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Jesus Laughed ("A new Church for people that don't like Church")['Baby Got Book' Video]
Yahoo! News ^ | July 6, 2007 | Kevin Sites

Posted on 07/10/2007 4:28:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: GraniteStateConservative

I disagree with the implication that as Christians we can only preach the Gospel using the exact same external methods as Christ and the Apostles.


61 posted on 07/12/2007 12:12:22 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: LucyJo

Neither do 99% of the churches in existence today. Unless they are preaching to their followers in the local market or public square. Too many people ignore the message and pay too much attention to the trinkets (The arena sized church, pastor’s new armani suit, the TV time the pastor purchases). It’s the message, not the delivery, that’s important.


62 posted on 07/12/2007 12:28:07 PM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem here is that God specified what He wants in worship, and it’s not “comedy skits.”


63 posted on 07/12/2007 12:41:41 PM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think I’m going to be ill.... Just how is this different? We have more churches like this, trying to be “hip”, than we do traditional churches.

Oh, and I don’t think there is any recorded instance in the Bible of Jesus laughing.


64 posted on 07/12/2007 12:46:54 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX
Oh, and I don’t think there is any recorded instance in the Bible of Jesus laughing.

Meaning...what, exactly? Jesus wasn't human? Jesus was emotionally crippled? Had no sense of humor?

Where were you going, with that?

65 posted on 07/12/2007 12:55:13 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: Sloth
...God specified what He wants in worship, and it’s not “comedy skits.”

Okay, LOL! I see the issue, there. Uh, the article says there are comedy skits in the church, it doesn't say they're used as a form of worship; more probably they're bieng used as a means of illustrating a scriptural principle related to the message being preached on any given Sunday.

Sin? LOL! No.

It's just a different means of presenting an illustration; a more attention-holding alternative to the traditional man-behind-the-wooden-box-talking-and-gesticulating method.

66 posted on 07/12/2007 1:00:28 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: Lost Highway
I disagree with the implication that as Christians we can only preach the Gospel using the exact same external methods as Christ and the Apostles.

How about using porno movies to preach the Gospel?

67 posted on 07/12/2007 1:07:03 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: HKMk23
Uh, the article says there are comedy skits in the church, it doesn't say they're used as a form of worship; more probably they're bieng used as a means of illustrating a scriptural principle related to the message being preached on any given Sunday.

Or even more likely, they are merely entertainment for the same kind of shallow itching-ears types who'd agree that "church is boring."

68 posted on 07/12/2007 1:09:30 PM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: MHGinTN
...our God is a Great God, with a fine sense of humor else He wouldn't allow me to keep using up the resources! God loves us so much, He will come to where we are in order to woo us to Him.

AMEN! I am SSSOOO sick 'n' tired of folks proclaiming that God's all serious and somber all of the time. In fact, you read the Psalms and you'll find out YHVH LAUGHS! Now, that laughin in there isn't the good kind where something's funny; it's the bad kind where His enemies just stepped in it bigtime and they're about to get whacked. But, still, there it is right in the Holy Word; The Almighty is laughing.

Besides, if God's got no humor, then how'd He ever dream up a platypus?

If God's got no humor, then how come WE'VE got humor?

I'm pretty certain that a sense of humor isn't a product of Adam's sin, because a sense of humor is a joyous thing; it's not bad fruit. If it was a product of the fall, a sense of humor would be a corrupt thing. Now, we can use it badly, but, of itself, it isn't corrupt or sinful. So, Adam must've had a sense of humor before his big slip up, and if he had it before that -- well, there wasn't any part of Adam that wasn't in the image of God, so, whatever Adam had, God's gotta have it, too.

69 posted on 07/12/2007 1:13:34 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

FOUL!!!

Not limiting methods to those used by Jesus and the Apostles does NOT necessitate inclusion of sinful methods.

You know better than that. Now apologize.


70 posted on 07/12/2007 1:18:38 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
The most confounding thing about Christianity is that it’s about the motivations first the actions second. That’s why it was ok that the disciples gathered on the Sabbath. That’s why it was ok that David danced. That’s why it was ok for David to eat the consecrated bread. That’s why it was ok that Samson took a Philistine wife.
71 posted on 07/12/2007 1:25:35 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: Sloth
Or even more likely, they are merely entertainment for the same kind of shallow itching-ears types who'd agree that "church is boring."

Why do you so NEED to believe that?

What's driving your vehement opposition and borderline hostility?

72 posted on 07/12/2007 1:28:59 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: HKMk23
Not limiting methods to those used by Jesus and the Apostles does NOT necessitate inclusion of sinful methods.

Who says making funny videos about the Word of God/Christianity isn't sinful?

73 posted on 07/12/2007 1:29:52 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Lost Highway
That’s why it’s okay that Kaleb took Rahab as his wife. That’s why it’s okay that Boaz took Ruth as his wife ... and from their union was born Obed (’worship’), named by the neighbors attending Ruth in her delivery. That’s why Jesus has Rahab and Ruth in His lineage.
74 posted on 07/12/2007 1:31:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: MHGinTN

Yes, one of my favorite quotes is from Mark Twain. (something to the affect of) It’s not the parts of the Bible that I don’t understand that bother me but the parts I do.


75 posted on 07/12/2007 1:34:34 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: Lost Highway; Alamo-Girl

Here’s a thought to ponder: Rahab and Ruth were both non-Jews by blood. The mother passes her mDNA (mitochondrial DNA) to the off-spring; Jesus had non-Jewish mDNA; the Gospel was preached (is preached) to the non-Jewish as well as the Jew; the Apostles didn’t know about mDNA and hesitated to ‘authorize’ the Gospel to Gentiles, but it was meant to be from the start and even His DNA testifies to the efficacy of it!


76 posted on 07/12/2007 1:42:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: BritExPatInFla

Too many people trust their feelings, follow men blindly, and fail to follow the Berean example of searching the Scriptures daily to see whether what they are being told is true. Acts 17:11

We are free to make our choices, but we will be held accountable to the Word, which teaches us how to live lives that are pleasing to God.


77 posted on 07/12/2007 1:43:39 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo

“Too many people trust their feelings, follow men blindly, and fail to follow the Berean example of searching the Scriptures daily to see whether what they are being told is true. Acts 17:11

We are free to make our choices, but we will be held accountable to the Word, which teaches us how to live lives that are pleasing to God.”

Certainly that’s true as a general principle, but, what do you do with the Biblical examples of people going against the “Word” of the day yet still being ok? ie Jesus and the Apostles breaking the Sabbath. God causing Samson to marry a Philistine when it was forbidden.

There seem to be occasions where the “law” or “Word” was set aside for a higher purpose of the moment.


78 posted on 07/12/2007 1:49:13 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: Lost Highway
Oh and I forgot David eating the consecrated bread.
79 posted on 07/12/2007 1:51:35 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The video is freakin’ HILARIOUS.


80 posted on 07/12/2007 1:56:24 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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