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I don't do religion on FR so, you guys have at it.
1 posted on 07/10/2007 5:48:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 07/10/2007 5:48:34 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam; Alouette; SJackson

ping.


3 posted on 07/10/2007 5:54:11 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: blam
More evidence of fact for the faith-based
stories...And there is most likely so much
more facts to discover!!!
4 posted on 07/10/2007 5:56:46 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: blam
...proof for Old Testament

I never doubted, so can't say I'm surprised. Thanks for the post of this.

5 posted on 07/10/2007 5:57:26 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: blam
It's a mystery to me why people are surprised that historical books (Kings, Chronicles, &c.) would be less true than histories written today.

ML/NJ

6 posted on 07/10/2007 5:57:52 PM PDT by ml/nj
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I don’t see what all the fuss is about. No thinking person has ever asserted that the Bible is devoid of factual history. The question is how much of it is factual, given that its various books have been transmitted by a combination of oral tradition and hand-copied text, with most books undergoing plenty of rounds of both.

Insignificant and non-controversial details like the one mentioned here are the least likely to be changed to accommodate the political or religious agenda of the re-teller or re-copier. Many such details were no doubt dropped or mistakenly changed along the way, but it’s hardly surprising that some made it through the process unchanged.


7 posted on 07/10/2007 5:58:20 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: LeGrande

*Ahem*


8 posted on 07/10/2007 5:59:08 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: blam
's not religion ~ 's records. Simply proves that at least that part of the Bible has the same information as an ancient source dug out of the mud by the Brits.

Remember the story of Lot's wife ~ it's an ancient tale also told in pictoglyphs in Northern Finland and nearby Russia.

It may be 7500 years old ~ which is 3 times as old as this item.

The Bible doesn't really explain why Lot's wife turned to (rock) salt, but the petroglyphs explain it clearly as a consequence of her failing to find husbands for her daughters.

Eventually we are going to be able to pin down the sources for the stories Moses thought suitible for inclusion in the Bible he put together.

11 posted on 07/10/2007 6:00:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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I'd be happy to oblige: Jeremiah 39 begins like this (NIV):

"This is how Jerusalem was taken: 1 In the ninth year of Zedekiah king of Judah, in the tenth month, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon marched against Jerusalem with his whole army and laid siege to it. 2 And on the ninth day of the fourth month of Zedekiah's eleventh year, the city wall was broken through. 3 Then all the officials of the king of Babylon came and took seats in the Middle Gate: Nergal-Sharezer of Samgar, Nebo-Sarsekim a chief officer, Nergal-Sharezer a high official and all the other officials of the king of Babylon. 4 When Zedekiah king of Judah and all the soldiers saw them, they fled; they left the city at night by way of the king's garden, through the gate between the two walls, and headed toward the Arabah."

Some of the 'more mudance' parts of the scriptures read just like this. Many wonder why such things would be present. One obvious reason: to lend historic context to people, places, events, and time. And as this researcher has found: it holds together with outside sources.

12 posted on 07/10/2007 6:01:06 PM PDT by alancarp (How many millions have to break a law before it's inconvenient to enforce?)
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Yes, a notable find indeed.

Although “scientific biblical criticism” could be traced back earlier, it really took off in Germany about 1870. There was a political push behind it: Bismark funded positions in German universities as one aspect of his campaign of persecution against the Catholic Church, which he thought necessary to turn Germany into a modern state.

On no particular scientific evidence, most of the Bible was declared to be fictional, or to have been pieced together from various unreliable sources.

Since then, however, archaeological discoveries have consistently confirmed the truth of the biblical narrative. This discovery is fascinating precisely because it confirms the existence of a minor figure, thus confirming that the author of Jeremiah knew what he was talking about, and was not some scribe working hundreds of years after the fact and inventing details on his whim.

Some parts of the Bible, of course, are stories, and so indicate themselves to be. But things like the Exodus from Egypt or the Babylonian exile and Persian restoration are historical facts, constantly being confirmed by small pieces of archaeological evidence.


13 posted on 07/10/2007 6:01:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Nabu-sharrussu-ukin, described there in a hand 2,500 years old, as "the chief eunuch" ...

He was a Republican Congressman? (sarcasm, mostly)

14 posted on 07/10/2007 6:03:15 PM PDT by airborne (COULTER: Actually, my favorite candidate is [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA], and he is magnificent.)
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Thanks so much blam, for posting this interesting tid-bit!

To you two gals....ping!


16 posted on 07/10/2007 6:05:28 PM PDT by colorcountry (To pursue union at the expense of truth is treason to the Lord Jesus. - Charles Haddon Spurgeon -)
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The tablet is dated to the 10th year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar II, 595BC, 12 years before the siege of Jerusalem.

Um, wouldn't that be 8 years before the seige of Jerusalem???

19 posted on 07/10/2007 6:09:10 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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So, "Nabu-sharrussu-ukin" is the same as "Nebo-Sarsekim"???!! Maybe that's close enough for biblical scholars, but to me, it's like saying that Paul McCartney is also RuPaul.

And the "chief officer" being the same as the "chief eunuch"?? No, thanks, I don't want the benefit package on that key-man employment contract...

And even if it were 100% the very same person, how does that verify any other part of the Old Testament?

20 posted on 07/10/2007 6:09:29 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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I thought that most of the Old Testament was written by the Jewish rabbis et al during their bondage in Babylon. If that is true, then you would expect that such a character would, if written about, exist. It may not say anything pro or con about other characters from other eras in the history.


25 posted on 07/10/2007 6:15:52 PM PDT by expatpat
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27 posted on 07/10/2007 6:17:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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“you pays your money, and you takes your chances.”

- Nabu-sharrussu-ukin


41 posted on 07/10/2007 6:32:22 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: blam

He was a eunuch?

How unfortunate...


51 posted on 07/10/2007 6:47:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Implement the FairTax and be free and prosperous, or stick with the StupidTax...it's up to you...)
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To: blam
I don't do religion on FR so, you guys have at it.

You needn't treat it as "religion," per se -- you could, rather, see it as support for the reliability of ancient historical narratives.

And, actually, in terms of the Bible as History, it's not at all uncommon to find pieces of supporting evidence like this.

53 posted on 07/10/2007 6:53:18 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: blam
So, does this mean Jeremiah wasn't a bullfrog? Sorry.
63 posted on 07/10/2007 7:14:37 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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