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Guns and Needles
NY Times ^ | July 12, 2007 | SALLY SATEL

Posted on 07/12/2007 12:12:59 AM PDT by neverdem

Op-Ed Contributor

1. If confirmed, you will be working in the city with the highest rate of AIDS cases in the country. Intravenous drug users are estimated to make up about one-third of Washington’s new AIDS cases. The House recently lifted a ban preventing the District from using municipal money to set up a needle exchange program. However, the Bush administration remains opposed to the use of federal funds for needle exchange.

If asked to advise the president about changing this stance, using the epidemiological data on the effect of needle exchange on H.I.V. transmission, what would you tell him? And how would you, as a physician and former health administrator, weigh the pros and cons of needle exchange?

2. In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings there was much discussion about re-examining the range of state laws on involuntary treatment of the severely mentally ill. In Virginia, the standard is so narrowly defined that a patient has to be on the verge of harming himself or someone else before the courts can act. What can the federal government do to bring needed change to reduce the chances of another Virginia Tech?

3. As you know, we are experiencing a dire shortage of organs for transplantation. Close to 100,000 people are waiting for kidneys, livers, hearts and lungs. Last year barely one-third of those on the lists received an organ, and 17 died each day. (Disclosure: I am one of the fortunate few who have received a kidney.) How would you remedy the shortage?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aids; banglist; health; hiv; hivaids; hypodermicneedles; medicine; syringes
"SALLY SATEL, a psychiatrist and resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute." She's not a moonbat. This was one of a number of guest "OpEd" commentaries for the appointment of a new surgeon general.
1 posted on 07/12/2007 12:13:01 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I can not see how the federal government should be involved in any of these issues.


2 posted on 07/12/2007 12:18:29 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
I can not see how the federal government should be involved in any of these issues.

Have you heard about Medicaid and Medicare? Get them ruled as not Constitutional. Until then, Medicaid which pays for AIDS treatment, IIRC, fifty percent by the feds, $10K+ - $20K+ annually depending on location, with a average life expectancy of at least ten years prior to HAART a decade ago.

3 posted on 07/12/2007 12:41:22 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
...weigh the pros and cons of needle exchange?

The reason for the HIV transmission is not dirty needles, it is the use of intravenous drugs. Facilitating that use is hardly an efficient use of resources it the battle against this disease. A far better use of those funds would be in law enforcement against mafia and gang involvement in selling drugs, or in abstinence methodology drug treatment programs.

Needle exchange programs are liberal moonbat dreams. Like most liberal ideas, they pick a problem, and propose a solution that will make them richer and in power over people that will at the same time make the problem worse.

2. In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings there was much discussion about reexamining the range of state laws on involuntary treatment of the severely mentally ill. In Virginia, the standard is... that a patient has to be on the verge of harming himself or someone else before the courts can act. What can the federal government do to bring needed change to reduce the chances of another Virginia Tech?

The obvious leading of this premise is to lower legal standards so that people will loose their freedom as mentally ill without due process for an entire range of things that are not crimes, but perceived wrong thought. Imagine a world where the State can call you mentally ill when you are "NOT a danger to yourself or others" This is best exemplified in Communist China during the Pol Pot days. Millions were killed or "re educated" for not being good little Communists. "Why people would have to be nuts to want to be democratic in the face of the mentally superior Communist ideals."

While a liberal dream for dominance over all people who do not fit the politically correct patterns they demand, one must wonder, were any of the children even under observation as mentally ill before they went on their killing sprees? How much would we have to lower the standards of freedom from State Mental control institutions to "hospitalize" all the children with ADD?! Just who are going to build the Twenty Million bed mental institutions to incarcerate all the children suffering from an over exposure to sugar? Or adults suffering from an over exposure to Rush Limbaugh?

As a counter point, let us examine that the sudden removal of Ritalin and other psychoactive drugs prescribed by Psychologists for ADD is known to cause suicidal depression and rage, and the fact that 90% of the school shooting killers were on these very prescribed drugs for ADD, the logical way to protect ourselves from school shootings is to remove the influence of Psychologists, not increase them.

3. As you know, we are experiencing a dire shortage of organs for transplantation. ...How would you remedy the shortage?

Another liberal idea in the bloom, just mark people as mentally unfit and harvest their organs for the politically correct. Coming to a theater near you soon...

4 posted on 07/12/2007 12:47:22 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Where has prohibition worked and not enabled criminal enterprise and the state? What’s wrong with limited government?


5 posted on 07/12/2007 1:06:07 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

LOL, maybe you thought you were on DU or something. I’ll keep pushing for a smaller more constitutional government. You do your thing.


6 posted on 07/12/2007 1:21:19 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: neverdem
None of this article is about limited government, it is about making more government with more power to do the wrong thing.

Abstinence related drug rehab is not prohibition in any sense of the word. And statistically it does work. Needle exchange does not reduce drug use at all, it in fact helps illegal drug use.

Giving the government sweeping powers to incarcerate people based on mental illness that is not harmful is asking for a George Orwell big brother police state.

The third issue is too chilling, there is not enough organs for transplants, how can the federal government solve this issue?! You have got to be kidding! This goes past George Orwell well into Soyulent Green territory.

Unless you want to have your organs removed at State bequest “for the good of the whole”, like they are now doing to private property, I suggest you begin to fight back, not fight for the ideas of these very dangerous people. Lest you be as Stalin said "a useful idiot", in his path of killing over 20,000,000 people. For the good of the state as he defined it.

7 posted on 07/12/2007 1:43:08 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Straight Vermonter; American in Israel
LOL, maybe you thought you were on DU or something.

Do you recommended a return to alcohol prohibition?

I’ll keep pushing for a smaller more constitutional government. You do your thing.

How can I resist?

Do you believe in term limits for Congress?

Despite a recent House vote against it, talk radio is still being threatened by the resurrection of the Fairness Doctrine. With the near evisceration of McCain - Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Act by the Supreme Court and the failure of the comprehensive "Shamnesty" in the Senate, the neoCOMs will be pushing harder for the Fairness Doctrine. Call talk radio. Use that as an opening to push for a Constitutional Amendment to give Congress term limits.

Transfer the DEA to the Border Patrol. This war against human nature makes no sense. The production of alcohol needs human labor as a general rule. Natural substances don't.

The war on guns: Joel Miller explains how drug cops are killing 2nd Amendment

Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]

Take your war on some drugs and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

8 posted on 07/12/2007 2:09:48 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: American in Israel
None of this article is about limited government, it is about making more government with more power to do the wrong thing.

Look up needle exchange and the prevalance of HIV/AIDS, the criteria for NICS checks, even if they are not Constitutional, and the regulation of organ transplantation. The author is attempting to deal with current problems.

9 posted on 07/12/2007 2:38:29 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
"If asked to advise the president about changing this stance, using the epidemiological data on the effect of needle exchange on H.I.V. transmission, what would you tell him? And how would you, as a physician and former health administrator, weigh the pros and cons of needle exchange?"

Simple. if these addicts, which are already a huge cost to society, want to kill themselves, don't interfere. The sooner they find their way into the city crematorium, the better. If they contract aids- too bad. Aids is 100% preventable. Avoid certain lifestyles and you can be sure not to contract aids, or any other sexually transmitted disease. Any government money for aids should be put to use ensuring our blood banks and blood products are free from these diseases, not used to prolong the lives of those spreading them.

10 posted on 07/12/2007 4:30:17 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: neverdem

1. Giving people who are breaking our laws the tools they need to continue to break our laws - hmmm, we need to bring these people out of the shadows and provide a pathway to dependency, I guess. GAG . If people want to break the law, ruin their lives and the lives of those around them, and possibly kill themselves to boot, I don’t see why taxpayers should subsidize that.

2. Allow students and teachers to exercise their second amendment right of self-defense, just like other Virginians. Why should students, in a bastion dedicated to free thought, surrender rights enjoyed by other citizens?

3. A Modest Proposal - give convicted illegals the choice of deportation or organ harvesting...


11 posted on 07/12/2007 11:14:12 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: neverdem

The author is attempting to set up one of the most odious Fascist states in human history. Dirty needles cause HIV like guns cause Crime.

Gun control makes crime worse and leads to more government power and cash flow, like needle exchange leads to more drug use and more government power and cash flow.

When ever the goobermint weed grows, freedom is the ground that is taken over, and money is the water it feeds on.

If the standards of mental “illness” is lowered beyond someone who is a danger to himself or others, the black and white due process of law is replace by the shady gray of mental function, now you do not have to do a crime, just think of one.

Government grows, freedom wanes, and money is gobbled.

Now how are you going to legislate organs to transplant? You cant grown them on trees, you have to harvest people.

Government grows, freedom disapears and money is gobbled.
That is the liberal pattern, Fascism, Government grows, freedom is removed and money is redirected to those in power, the Fascists.

Even Hitler did not get away with harvesting organs, but this guys agenda makes Hitler look like a sunday school child.

Welcome to the New World Order and the Anti-Christ who I am sure will get all three of these agendas accomplished.


12 posted on 07/12/2007 9:54:58 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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