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Kucinich Iran stance outrages Ohio Jewish leaders
Plain Dealer ^ | July 12, 2007 | Stephen Koff

Posted on 07/12/2007 10:26:21 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Dennis Kucinich, the colorful Cleveland congressman and longshot presidential candidate, has outraged Jewish leaders in Northeast Ohio by insisting that Iran's anti-Zionist leader is not seeking to exterminate Israel.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is regarded by many in the western world as a menace with nuclear ambitions, who recently called for supporters of Israel to, among other things, "burn in the fire of the Islamic nations' fury." Kucinich, however, says another translation of that and other statements is that Ahmadinejad merely wants regime change in Israel, not death to its people and supporters.

Jewish leaders say such a translation might be acceptable only if Kucinich ignored Ahmadinejad's behavior, which includes torture of his own people, and Middle East history since Israel's founding in 1948.

Kucinich's position puts him in a slim minority in Congress - two, if you count Kucinich.

He and Texas Republican Ron Paul - also a presidential aspirant - were the only House members to vote against a June 20 resolution condemning the Iranian leader and asking the U.N. Security Council to take up charges alleging violations of genocide conventions. Cleveland Democratic Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Lake County Republican Steve LaTourette were among the measure's 103 co-sponsors.

A June 28 letter to Kucinich from Harley Gross, chairman of the Jewish Community Federation of Cleveland, and Stephen Hoffman, the federation president, called Kucinich's interpretation of Ahmadinejad's statements "both tortured and a clear indication of either a lack of understanding of Israel's enemies on your part or, and we hope that this is not the case, an antipathy toward Israel."

"Unfortunately, it goes beyond naive," Alan Melamed, president of the Cleveland chapter of the American Jewish Committee, said in a phone interview Wednesday.

Kucinich sent a letter on Wednesday seeking to defend his actions, saying that, whatever the translation, he finds Ahmadinejad's statements "objectionable and outrageous." The letter to Hoffman and Gross asserted Kucinich's "full support for the people of Israel."

Yet he said that he could not back the House resolution because it carried only worst-case translations and he regarded it as an attempt to beat "the war drum to build support for a U.S. attack on Iran."

This is not the first time Kucinich has upset Jewish community leaders.

After he and his wife, Elizabeth, visited the Middle East in 2006, they described in detail the destruction they had seen caused by Israeli bombs in Lebanon, but they did not visit scenes of Hezbollah attacks in Israel. He said he ran out of time in part because of travel difficulties.

In 2003, Kucinich reversed himself and returned a $500 campaign contribution to a man linked to Middle East terrorists. Kucinich resisted returning the 1997 donation from Abdurahman Alamoudi until Alamoudi was arrested on charges of accepting payments from Libya and supporting terrorists. Other politicians had already returned donations from Alamoudi, who was later convicted. The American Jewish Committee at the time said Kucinich's refusal showed a lack of moral leadership.

Kucinich's stances, however, have not hurt his congressional re-election efforts to date. He has support from many Arab-Americans in his district, which does not have a big Jewish community.

Joe Charif, president of the Cleveland American Middle Eastern Organization, called Kucinich a "highly regarded" representative who strives for peace. Charif said that he personally does not know whether Ahmadinejad called for Israel's destruction, but that he has seen people on Middle Eastern television - critics of Israel - explain it in ways similar to Kucinich.

Said Sam Khawan, chairman of the Arab-American Community Center for Economic and Social Services, which sponsored Kucinich's trip last year: "All I know is that Dennis is a man of peace and always wants a peaceful resolution."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Ohio; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; antisemitism; extraterrestrials; iran; israel; jews; kucinich; usefulidiots

1 posted on 07/12/2007 10:26:22 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

bump


2 posted on 07/12/2007 10:27:50 AM PDT by VOA
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To: West Coast Conservative

Kucinich is just a commie idiot, I don’t know why anyone bothers to give him even the time of day.


3 posted on 07/12/2007 10:28:06 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: West Coast Conservative

“Kucinich, however, says another translation of that and other statements is that Ahmadinejad merely wants regime change in Israel, not death to its people and supporters.”

LoL. What a nut!


4 posted on 07/12/2007 10:28:41 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: West Coast Conservative

What part of “develop nuclear weapons to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth” does he find so complicated to understand?

oy vey ...

Ezekiel 38:5


5 posted on 07/12/2007 10:30:31 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The only people nuttier than him are the nuts who vote for him...........


6 posted on 07/12/2007 10:30:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: West Coast Conservative

To call this Socialist “colorful” is to forget that he drove Cleveland into bankruptcy.


7 posted on 07/12/2007 10:31:12 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (The last Americans to allow unchecked immigration...... were Native.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
It's his young trophy wife that should outrage people.


8 posted on 07/12/2007 10:31:13 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Kucinich/Paul ‘08 sounds like the ticket the “independents” are looking for!


9 posted on 07/12/2007 10:31:58 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: West Coast Conservative
Joe Charif, president of the Cleveland American Middle Eastern Organization, called Kucinich a "highly regarded" representative who strives for peace. Charif said that he personally does not know whether Ahmadinejad called for Israel's destruction, but that he has seen people on Middle Eastern television - critics of Israel - explain it in ways similar to Kucinich.

Said Sam Khawan, chairman of the Arab-American Community Center for Economic and Social Services, which sponsored Kucinich's trip last year: "All I know is that Dennis is a man of peace and always wants a peaceful resolution."


follow the money --- Kucinich is a paid shill for Saudi money I'll bet ...
10 posted on 07/12/2007 10:32:13 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"He has support from many Arab-Americans in his district, which does not have a big Jewish community."

IMHO- It wouldn't matter if there was a big Jewish community. The Jewish community's very first priority is voting liberal.

11 posted on 07/12/2007 10:34:49 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

this.opinion.is.only.a.function.of

$$$..DOLLARS...$$$

not...sense


12 posted on 07/12/2007 10:35:09 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: West Coast Conservative
Kucinich, however, says another translation of that and other statements is that Ahmadinejad merely wants regime change in Israel,

He wants regime change alright -- out with the Jews, in with the Mohammedans.

Unfortunately for those who desire Israel's extinction (Kucinich obviously included) the only forthcoming regime change in Israel will involve the ascension of Bibi Netanyahu.

13 posted on 07/12/2007 10:35:11 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: F15Eagle

“Kucinich is a paid shill for Saudi money I’ll bet”

True believers like Kucinich don’t require money to sell out their nation. You assume there is motive beyond his obviously communist ideology. I don’t think there is. He’s just that nuts.

Of course, this thread will focus on Kucinich and not the other nut mentioned in this article.


14 posted on 07/12/2007 10:36:24 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Red Badger

...Or Marry him.


15 posted on 07/12/2007 10:36:40 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: VOA

Kucinisch translates “burn in the fire of the Islamic nations’ fury” as meaning the Iranians want to invite the Israelis over for a barbecue.


16 posted on 07/12/2007 10:38:56 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: americanophile

Being upset with Dennis is like being mad at the clown`s in the circus!


17 posted on 07/12/2007 10:39:17 AM PDT by bybybill (HUNT RINOS IN THE PRIMARIES, SKIN RATS IN THE FALL)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"All I know is that Dennis is a man of peace and always wants a peaceful resolution."

"Solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant."

"They make a wilderness, and call it peace." - Tacitus, in his biography of his father-in-law Gnaeus Julius Agricola.

18 posted on 07/12/2007 10:41:33 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Ahmadinejad merely wants regime change in Israel"

LOL! Kucinch you idiot! Regime change for achmadhemijihad means a new Islamic government for Israel...and a name change. Useful idiots everywhere you look these days.
19 posted on 07/12/2007 10:42:17 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Denis Kuchinich is only being Denis Kuchinich.
A politically stunted and malignant person of lesser intellectual stature; politically immature and with a dullard childlike personality.
He has always seemed to me the person to have a movie produced about his life, wherein he shares his stardom with a rodent of some sort.

That he is an anti Semite is neither a shock or surprise.
How could he be anything else but; considering that like Popeye, he is who he. Denis Kuchinich.
There but for the grace of God goes I. Wait. No. Not I.

20 posted on 07/12/2007 10:42:36 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (The PALESTINIANS? A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I have lost all sympathy for the majority of American Jewish voters, who continue to vote commie-treason-jihadist party in every election.

They might as well vote for Hitler and then whine about Nazi war crimes.


21 posted on 07/12/2007 10:44:04 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: West Coast Conservative

I am sorry, but the “Jewish leaders in Northeast Ohio” are certifiable morons for their endless support of the moonbat anti-semite democrats. Dennis Kucinich did not just become an abomination two days ago.

Maybe the Jewish leaders in Northeast Ohio are waking up from their denial coma, but I doubt it.


22 posted on 07/12/2007 10:44:43 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
He and Texas Republican Ron Paul - also a presidential aspirant - were the only House members to vote against a June 20 resolution condemning the Iranian leader and asking the U.N. Security Council to take up charges alleging violations of genocide conventions
This further strengthens my conviction that Ron Paul is a moron and a loser. Voting with Kucinich. You can't get much lower than that.
23 posted on 07/12/2007 10:45:47 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: West Coast Conservative
Denis Kuchinich is only being Denis Kuchinich.
A politically stunted and malignant person of lesser intellectual stature; politically immature and with a dullard childlike personality.
He has always seemed to me the person to have a movie produced about his life, wherein he shares his stardom with a rodent of some sort.

That he is an anti Semite is neither a shock or surprise.
How could he be anything else but; considering that like Popeye, he is who he is. Denis Kuchinich.
There but for the grace of God goes I. Wait. No. Not I.

24 posted on 07/12/2007 10:47:25 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (The PALESTINIANS? A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Israel has a coalition democratically elected government. What “Regime”?


25 posted on 07/12/2007 10:47:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Dennis the menace.


26 posted on 07/12/2007 10:51:50 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: West Coast Conservative

Kucinich and Ron Paul make a wonderful couple....(chuckle)


28 posted on 07/12/2007 10:52:58 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: West Coast Conservative

He and Texas Republican Ron Paul - also a presidential aspirant - were the only House members to vote against a June 20 resolution condemning the Iranian leader ...

Ron Paul is anti-Israeli...as I have said before.


29 posted on 07/12/2007 10:53:08 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: massgopguy

?????


30 posted on 07/12/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Chi-townChief

“Kucinich/Paul ‘08”

Two sides of the same rotten coin...and “Blame America First” is the inscription.


31 posted on 07/12/2007 10:55:39 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
After their first date, someone asked Kucinich, “she’s so tall, how did you manage?”

Kucinich said: “my friend put me up to it!”

32 posted on 07/12/2007 10:57:16 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

” For years Germany has been waiting in vain for the fulfillment of the promise of disarmament made to her by the others. It is the sincere desire of the national Government to be able to refrain from increasing our army and our weapons, insofar as the rest of the world is now also ready to fulfill its obligations in the matter of radical disarmament. For Germany desires nothing except an equal right to live and equal freedom.

In any case the national Government will educate the German people in this spirit of a desire for freedom. The national honor, the honor of our army and the ideal of freedom must once more become sacred to the German people!

The German nation wishes to live in peace with the rest of the world.”

Hitler 1933

“My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time.”

Neville Chamberlain 1938


33 posted on 07/12/2007 10:59:08 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“Addressing about 4000 students gathered in an Interior Ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and a point “where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come”.
Khatami was in favour of
‘dialogue among civilisations’
“The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland,” he said in the fiery speech that centred on a “historic war between the oppressor and the world of Islam”. Ahmedinejad

http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816

More than regime change there Dennis.....


34 posted on 07/12/2007 11:03:58 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: West Coast Conservative

From Mel Brooks “To Be or not to Be”:

Adolf Hitler: Have you read the foreign papers?
-They call me a monster! A madman!
-Und a maniac!
What do they want from me?
I’m good-natured. I’m goodhearted.
I’m good-looking.
Every day, I’m out there trying
to make the world safe. For Germany.
I don’t want war.
All I want is peace. Peace.
Peace!

(Breaks into a song)
A little piece of Poland
A little piece of France
A little piece of Portugal
And Austria perchance
A little slice of Turkey
And all that that entails
Und then a piece of England Scotland
lreland and Wales


35 posted on 07/12/2007 11:06:01 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: FormerACLUmember

“Regime” has a negative connotation usually reserved for the leaders for life of, well ALL of the countries that surround Israel.


36 posted on 07/12/2007 11:08:16 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: expatguy

First you have to shove a half a grapefruit in Kucinich’s face, then you take her.


37 posted on 07/12/2007 11:10:04 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: West Coast Conservative

There are more little old Slovenian ladies here to vote for him than Jews to vote against him.


38 posted on 07/12/2007 11:22:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: L98Fiero
sounds like he might be naturally anti-Jewish but there's also this little tidbit ...

In 2003, Kucinich reversed himself and returned a $500 campaign contribution to a man linked to Middle East terrorists. Kucinich resisted returning the 1997 donation from Abdurahman Alamoudi until Alamoudi was arrested on charges of accepting payments from Libya and supporting terrorists. Other politicians had already returned donations from Alamoudi, who was later convicted.
39 posted on 07/12/2007 11:32:24 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: VOA

Then why do they keep supporting left-wing Democrats who support the enemies of Israel and the United States?


40 posted on 07/12/2007 11:46:29 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Wow, THAT’s Dennis’ wife? Where’s her red tipped cane and sun glasses?


41 posted on 07/12/2007 11:50:14 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: nuconvert

Dennis Kucinich = what must those folks in his district who elect him year-after-year be like?


42 posted on 07/12/2007 12:14:15 PM PDT by baiamonte
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