Posted on 07/12/2007 2:01:24 PM PDT by monkeycard
You can't make this stuff up fast enough...
It's sort of assumed I guess. However there is a provision that states: "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".
"infringe" is defined, by The Oxford dictionary as:
1) violate (a law, agreement, etc.).
2 encroach on (a right or privilege).
All these restrictions (all less than 100 years in existance at the federal level, most less that 40 years), which obviously haven't stopped the criminals, are encroaching on that "right of the people".
True... unless you are Mel Brooks!
Could I have the phone number for RKV? He's... giving my party a bad name!
Not sure if you are implying I am for gun control or not...
If not, no foul, no penalty...
If you are, no where, no time that I know of, have I ever called for more gun control laws to 'infringe' upon the right of the People to keep and bear arms.
As I said in an earlier post, "...there is not any specific provision in the Constitution saying people should have common sense, but many of us do." It is only common sense to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane.
If that make me anti-gun in you eyes, I hereby roll my eyes back, look up to Heaven and suggest you go to an optometrist.
I agree. Was a legal car or sold to a felon?
Correct, but how many Americans are killed by medical malpractice? Wait I hear crickets chirping. Should we ban doctors?
Yes, you are right, null! You cannot make this up fast enough...
Sadly, such and like drivel is being repeated way too often for comfort.
Like my old Class III pard always said, “It looks like we made survival too danged easy. It has weakened and dumbed down the breed to the point I wonder if culling will get us back on track?”
Opps... Will quoting old Rex get me slapped back into the Nazi Party again?
So who started the name calling? You did. I just returned the favor. Grow up.
Crooks belong in jail. Then the issue of firearms is moot.
If they are too dangerous to have a gun then they don’t belong on the street.
I am opposed to any background check.
I DO NOT care if an adult owns a firearm.
It is the inappropriate and criminal use of them, NOT the ownership, that is the problem.
Why do you support so many infringements on the Second? I’m sure you don’t support similar laws for others in the Bill of Rights.
Gadzooks and General Jackson! Is it... a full moon tonight?
Where, I repeat, where in the world are you getting the idea I am for "... so many infringements..." on the Second Amendment?
I said, "It is only common sense to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane."
I also said lock up any FFL gun dealers who are allowing criminals to buy firearms in violation of the law.
Why are you defending felons and the insane having guns? Why are you defending gun dealers who break the law?
Gad... Looks like the right of the People to have common sense is being infringed on this post...
Hummm.... Are we reading the same thread?
Post #5 I call for the law to be enforced...
Post #7 You seem to claim anything not specifically forbidden in the Constitution is okay...
Post #9 I say it is common sense to keep weapons from criminals and the insane. I infer your claim of anything goes if it ain't forbidden in the Constitution is like a bizarro world ACLU...
Post #14 You say I am not a conservative and call me a Nazi...
Post #15 I let my temper flare and offer to kick your ass with one hand tied behind me...
Post #18 I gather my thoughts and bring to your attention that in this day and age the ones who play the 'Nazi' card on anyone who disagrees with them are the Liberal Democrats. I also pointed out that "...by your own words, you have shown your complete lack of civility and class."
Post #23 I let my funny bone out and tongue in cheek suggested Mel Brooks' Hitler would not find you a best friend. Sorry for that, it is just the gypsy in my soul...
Now, we have this Post #29 where you claim I started the name calling.
Hummm... Looking up and rereading the posts, it appears I may have suggested your common sense may not be 100% in #9, but I did not call you any names?
I hereby humbly apologize. I should not have beaten around the bush on common sense as I now see it has no effect upon you.
Therefore, I wish to replace the entirety of my Post #9 with this: "You, old sport, are a schmuck!"
Now, notice, I did not say a Commie schmuck. I did not say a Fascist schmuck. I did not say a Nazi schmuck. I just mean an everyday ordinary old schmuck, no political persuasion needed...
So, where are we on you visiting my front door ala Post #15 where I further enlighten you on my low opinion of your intelligence?
BTW I am 60 and still am not sure what I want to be when I grow up. Yet I am sure I don't want to be whatever you are...
I really got your goat. And I’m glad, you deserved it. As for your (lack of) logic - I laugh at it.
What you are calling for is for another in a long set of failures to be continued. You seem unable to detect the presence of another governmental agency - the states. They have responsibilities, which they have ignored. Its time to hold the states accountable. What you suggest is not within the limits of the power of the Federal government as described in our Constitution. So is a LOT of what the Feds do now. Its time to change that, and get our system back in balance. Many so-called conservatives don’t get this part of our governmental systems design, so don’t think yourself alone - you’re just not holding a conservative position on this issue. You advocate using the wrong tool for the job, and then call everyone who doesn’t agree with you a tool for the American Communists and Lawyers Union.
There is a right way (constitutional, conservative and pro-liberty) to do things and a wrong way. You advocate using the wrong methods and then whine when someone points it out to you. Pathetic. Its the States responsibility to make laws which affect the disarmament of criminals and the insane, not the feds. Otherwise we get to a situation where the Second Amendment can be made meaningless. DiFi and Chuckie S. would love to do it your way.
“If they are too dangerous to have a gun then they dont belong on the street.” Well said.
Felons that have served their sentence should have ALL their rights restored.
All.
Do you really want the federal government deciding who can and cannot buy, own, possess a gun?
Those intent on criminal activity won’t be deterred by laws...because by definition they break laws!
Evidently your position is so clearly on the side of infringement that you have to explain yourself to a whole lot of reasonable people.
Common sense says that journalists shouldn’t lie or distort the news but we don’t push for government restrictions on the press, now do we?
And in my opinion, lies and distortions in the press can kill more than any crazy gunman.
Can you not read the above 32 posts? I am beginning to wonder if you can read the English language at all? Your replies show you have not comprehended anything I have said...
I simply called for obeying the law and I said it was common sense to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane... For that you called me a Nazi.
Thusly it appears anyone who does not agree 1,000 per cent right down the line with your particular interpretation of the Constitution must never be a conservative. They must only be a Nazi. As such, libs like DiFi and Chuckie S. would admire that knee-jerk affliction in you...
I never said anything specific about any particular federal, state or local laws. I do not agree with all the laws, gun or whatnot, on the books, but I obey them until I can bring about their legal revocation or modification. Guess that is another of my Nazi traits, eh?
I was a federally licensed firearms dealer in the 1960s and 70s and was even a Class III one that sold fully automatic weapons to both legally qualified individuals and law enforcement agencies. So, I know a thing or two about the gun laws.
So, for all the invented comments and proclivities you subscribe to me, for all your huffing & puffing, you are still a schmuck, old sport...
But you have added liar to your modus operandi...
BTW if you are not sure of the definition of the word ‘schmuck’ I suggest you go to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/schmuck
I assume you know what a 'liar' is...
Hun? What "...whole lot of reasonable people..." do you mean?
Outside of you and RKV, where is this "...whole lot of reasonable people?"
Only you two are on this thread saying things I never said...
And, I do think a "..whole lot of reasonable people..." would agree with me, provided, of course, they could read and comprehend the written word which we can all see RKV cannot do.
And my belief that you can is rapidly shrinking...
Do you two get you jollies off Nifonging anyone who doesn't completely agree with you?
“Federally licensed gun dealer” aka PART OF THE PROBLEM.
I “assumed” that since you were pinging a host of people that you had ‘splainin’ to do..
Are you one of those that equate the size of their cc or ping list to the size of their manhood?
If so, it isn’t uncommon.
Bad form and decidedly unmasculine, but not uncommon.
You like laws that restrict gun possession and ownership.
Laws = infringement.
Therefore...you support infringement.
I, on the other hand, say that the government was correct in the Second Amendment and if someone is too crazy to possess a gun they probably should be under close supervision and possibly under lock and key.
Felons I’ve already explained. If they have served their term, give them their vote and a gun. If they screw up again toss’em in jail.
So you support laws that the Constitution prohibits and you think I’m a nut?
Maybe you should look at the size of your ping list. A big ping lists doesn’t mean big manhood.
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