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Mom says she, toddler kicked off plane
Assocoiated Press ^ | Thu Jul 12, 2:15 PM ET

Posted on 07/12/2007 8:51:14 PM PDT by maine-iac7

ATLANTA - A woman said she and her toddler son were kicked off a plane after she refused a flight attendant's request to medicate her son to get him to quiet down and stop saying "Bye bye, plane."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; byebye; byebyeplane; child; flight; plane; toddler
Kicked of in a stopover - with a 19 month old toddler - passengers reportedly defended the mother but, if what is reported is true, the flight attendent is probably 'on vacation' - wonder is there's a law against trying to coerce a mother to drug her child? Watch the video -
1 posted on 07/12/2007 8:51:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
There is always more to this type of story than what we are meant to see.

Reminds me of the original story that classifies this for me:

"Woman arrested for Petting Dog"...

2 posted on 07/12/2007 8:55:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: maine-iac7

everyone knows it’s the flight attendants who need the meds.


3 posted on 07/12/2007 9:05:27 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
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To: maine-iac7
A woman said she and her toddler son were kicked off a plane after she refused a flight attendant's request to medicate her son to get him to quiet down and stop saying "Bye bye, plane."

Was he dressed anything like this?:


4 posted on 07/12/2007 9:11:16 PM PDT by lowbridge (If You’re Gonna Burn Our Flag, Wrap Yourself in It First /No Oil for Pacifists)
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To: maine-iac7
Kicked of in a stopover - with a 19 month old toddler - passengers reportedly defended the mother

The mother said that other passengers defended her. Given that she claims to have no idea how to quieten an unruly child ("What am I going to do?"), nor even that one would need quietening ("I'm not going to drug my child so you have a pleasant flight"), nor was she even marginally prepared for a flight with a child ("I don't have anything with me, I don't have any more diapers for the baby, no juice, no milk"), I'm not going to be so quick to defend her.

5 posted on 07/12/2007 9:11:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

I’ve gotten a lot more suspicious of the airlines treatment of passengers after we were left on the tarmac for 5 hours in Phoenix with our 3 kids including one that I was attempting to nurse even though I was getting dehydrated, and not so much as a water bottle to be passed around for the passengers...

But yeah, I think there’s a bit more to this story.


6 posted on 07/12/2007 9:17:06 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too (Don't make perfect the enemy of the good)
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To: FreedomCalls

I am pretty sure you are not allowed to bring things like juice or milk onto airplane flights anymore. At least not civilian ones.

No excuse for not having a spare diaper though.


7 posted on 07/12/2007 9:35:30 PM PDT by 1-505th_airborne_medic
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To: maine-iac7

Flight attendants are getting a little restless.....Something in wind?


8 posted on 07/12/2007 9:41:38 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: maine-iac7
I suspect the child was doing more than saying bye bye. I’d like to hear from the flight attendant and the passengers nearby. My sympathy is with the other passengers. Kids cry all the time, so this kid must have been a terror: or screaming and the flight attendant thought he was sick.

The mom ran crying to the press, so I suspect a “kaching” motive behind the story.

As for “drugging your kid”, usually you give medicine before a flight so the child will not get an earache (barotrauma due to change in air pressure). Benadryl is one of the medicines used, although I don’t advise it because although most kids get sleepy on it, some kids get wired.

I take Chlortrimeton myself before a flight: without it, I go deaf and then my ear hurts and I get dizzy.

For people without allergies, chewing gum or sucking on hard candy helps: they used to give these out before taking off, but usually don’t do it now.

9 posted on 07/12/2007 9:46:26 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: I_like_good_things_too
I was stuck for 5 hours on the tarmac at Newark 2 years ago. A Continental flight where they refuse to hand out water to the passengers. Children screamed and vomited along with adults who were moments away from a mutiny.

But we were shown Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason. Which was the greatest abuse of all.

10 posted on 07/12/2007 9:53:57 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: FreedomCalls
I don't have any more diapers for the baby, no juice, no milk"),

she only had a short flight from Texas to Oklahoma left - as to juice or milk - those are LIQUIDS - remember the hassle the other mother got into because she was going to get on the plane with her baby and a sippy cup of = gasp = water? Freepers then were all over the mother for being so stupid as to try to get on a plane with water!

Imagine what would have happened if they discovered a bottle of milk or juice in her bags?

No, we may not have the whole story at this point - by the way, I didn't see where she "claims to have no idea how to quieten [I take it you meant quiet] an unruly child"

Did I miss that?

I agree that there may be more to the story - but we wont get it by inserting things that aren't in it in the first place...and if it is true that the attendant suggested she drug her baby - I wonder what you would say in that situation?

11 posted on 07/12/2007 9:58:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

Imagine what would have happened if they discovered a bottle of milk or juice in her bags?

Excellent point. Can you imagine the uproar if the mother attempted to breast feed her child to keep it quiet?

Irked mom stirs up breast milk brouhaha

Wait a minute...Those things contain more than 3 ounces of liquid.... /sarc

12 posted on 07/12/2007 11:02:16 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You know, of course, this means war" - Bugs Bunny)
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic
I am pretty sure you are not allowed to bring things like juice or milk onto airplane flights anymore. At least not civilian ones.

As long as you buy the juice, water or food in the 'sterile' area, that is, after you've passed through security, you can bring them on the plane. I guess this changed during the year, because when I flew last summer, that wasn't the way, but it was a couple of weeks ago.

13 posted on 07/12/2007 11:06:18 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: maine-iac7
I don’t agree with drugging a child; however; it is pure hell to ride with children on a plane with no escape. From Seattle to Houston with 2 brats kicking my chair, screaming, standing up running up and and down the ailes(only peace I got). Did their father and grandmother do anything except express our darling they were. Not a thing. I did get an apology from the airlines when we landed. It was unbearable.
14 posted on 07/12/2007 11:08:35 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: CaptainK

You poor, poor woman. I can certainly empathize.


15 posted on 07/12/2007 11:10:27 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: LadyDoc

On my most recent flight from Boston to Memphis, there was a child who cried all the way down. I’m guessing he cried all the way because he was crying before the flight took off, I went to sleep during the flight, and he was still crying when I woke up, just before we landed. One of the flight attendants even came down the aisle and picked up the baby trying to comfort him, to no avail.


16 posted on 07/12/2007 11:10:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: maine-iac7
This “flight attendant” seems to be a frustrated would-be Public School teacher. She dreams of being in a position to force the Drugging other people’s children, to suit HER world view.
17 posted on 07/12/2007 11:19:33 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: Sarajevo
Wait a minute...Those things contain more than 3 ounces of liquid.... /sarc

LOL

18 posted on 07/12/2007 11:33:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: SuziQ
As long as you buy the juice, water or food in the 'sterile' area, that is, after you've passed through security

When did they set up a place you could buy anything after you went through security - I must have missed it in the airports last week

19 posted on 07/12/2007 11:36:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: freekitty

Airlines should be smart enough to provide a seating area up front or up back for people traveling with small children - but I guess it’d better to just drug them - That’ll be the next ‘rule”


20 posted on 07/12/2007 11:38:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7
I recall TSA making a mother prove the liquid in a bottle was breast milk...by drinking it. And I also recall a flight attendant slipping pills to a child, but was caught by the parent who saw the crushed pills in the glass.

Have a great flight!

21 posted on 07/12/2007 11:39:53 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: maine-iac7
You can purchase food or drinks from any food places that are on the way to the gates, but AFTER security. They still have the restriction about no liquids larger than 3oz. in your carry on luggage while going through Security. Most large airports have at least a news stand or a coffee place near the gates. Of course in places like Hotlanta you have great food courts. I don't mind a layover there at all. I was thrilled to learn this!

I learned my lesson a couple of weeks ago about setting up connections too close to one another. I was delayed leaving Gulfport MS by 40 minutes, because of a HUGH thunderstorm that rolled through, and even though I made it to the gate in Memphis at 6:35, when my connecting flight was supposed to leave, the gate was shut up tight and the airline employees were GONE! This was July 3rd, and there were NO other flights available. Fortunately, one of my older brothers lives in Hernando MS, and they were home, so they were kind enough to come get me and let me stay over night at their house. I flew the following morning with a woman who had also missed her connection, on a different flight, and had to sleep in the airport. She was NOT a happy camper.

22 posted on 07/12/2007 11:56:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: maine-iac7
Airlines should be smart enough to provide a seating area up front or up back for people traveling with small children - but I guess it’d better to just drug them - That’ll be the next ‘rule”

She was in row 3. You can't get much more "up front" that that.


23 posted on 07/13/2007 12:00:00 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
"I [the mother] said [to the stewardess after she suggested the mom quiet the child], 'Well, he's been here at the airport for eleven hours, stuck in a stroller, you know, you should be lucky he's not screaming his head off.'"

That sounds like she's threatening to make him start screaming.

She said she was talking with a representative of Express Jet just after being escorted off of the plane. "I was in tears," Penland said. She said the airline representative told her, "The reason I was removed from the plane was because the flight attendant told the captain I had threatened her. And that was the reason I was removed, not because of the baby.... I told her that I did not threaten that woman"

See the above.

24 posted on 07/13/2007 12:08:17 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: SuziQ

“I was delayed...because of a HUGH thunderstorm...”
(Giggle) Here we we go again.


25 posted on 07/13/2007 12:31:20 AM PDT by beelzepug ("One should never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: maine-iac7

In Colorado Springs, Denver, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Missoula, Memphis, Cincinnati, and Detroit that I know of from the last 6 months.


26 posted on 07/13/2007 12:38:14 AM PDT by jammer
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To: LadyDoc
"I suspect the child was doing more than saying bye bye.

When other nearby passengers raised their voices to defend the mom and her toddler, the flight attendant got angrier. This fact tells me that other passengers had no problem with the child. What is even more troubling is that the flight attendant lied when she gave a story that the mom threatened her. The nearby passengers, who witnessed the entire episode, said that no threats were given. Such a charge could have been very serious against the mom and would have been difficult to disprove if other passengers were not paying attention. To her good fortune, the passengers did pay attention. It was the flight attendant that needed medication or off all airplanes until she gets her self under control.

27 posted on 07/13/2007 1:05:09 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1864857/posts


28 posted on 07/13/2007 1:13:39 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: the invisib1e hand
"everyone knows it’s the flight attendants who need the meds."

...on one particular United flight I'm trying to forget the flight attendants from hell could have used some serious mediciation...

29 posted on 07/13/2007 2:13:38 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic
(No excuse for not having a spare diaper though.)

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Nothing worse than a "loaded" diaper?

30 posted on 07/13/2007 2:19:00 AM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: maine-iac7
I absolutely despise US airlines. I fly all over the world on a regular basis and rank the US carriers as the least customer friendly by far.

I cannot understand how a country which offers such good customer service in every other field is incapable of treating fair paying passengers (even in club) as anything other than an annoying imposition

31 posted on 07/13/2007 2:33:00 AM PDT by weegie
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To: weegie

It all started a long time ago when the airline industry got it’s first government subsidy. Little did we know.


32 posted on 07/13/2007 2:37:30 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: endthematrix
And I also recall a flight attendant slipping pills to a child, but was caught by the parent who saw the crushed pills in the glass.

True story? Was she charged? That's GOT to be not only stupid as can be but illegal too.

33 posted on 07/13/2007 3:40:40 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Something in wind?

Abject stupidity on the part of American leadership, corporate, private, or government.

34 posted on 07/13/2007 6:36:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: freekitty

I’m with you, instead of letting the smallest ones ride free (theoretically on a parent’s lap, but they squirm all over the place), they ought to charge them double. That might make more parents think twice about leaving their little ‘darlings’ with a close relative, and just taking a vacation away from the brats to regain their own sanity.


35 posted on 07/13/2007 7:11:42 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: endthematrix
Forget about the bottle, whip out the num nums, poor thing waiting 11 hours in a stroller, put a tit in his mouth and he won't be saying bye bye plane he'll be saying night night. It would work for me, I'd go right to sleep, sweet dreams.
36 posted on 07/13/2007 8:19:55 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
Wow. Num Nums.

I learned a new word today!

37 posted on 07/13/2007 9:34:22 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (Nothing says impotence and inadequacy quite like a Muslim male)
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To: EverOnward

Put a waitress on and airplane with a cart full of cokes and peanuts, and she will get an exremely inflated ego.


38 posted on 07/13/2007 9:58:47 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: hunter112

I agree.


39 posted on 07/13/2007 11:25:53 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: maine-iac7

I always did with my children, with a prescription from my pediatrician. We took many long flights with the kids and it saved our sanity and those of our fellow travelers.


40 posted on 07/13/2007 11:33:50 AM PDT by KYGrandma (Kentucky girl who wants to go home)
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To: LadyDoc
I was listening to Bortz this morning and he said they had the mom and kid on a TV program this morning (Good Morning, America??). Bortz said the child was crawling over everything, talking, and generally being so disruptive that the host could not conduct the interview. The mother never said a word to the child. There was also a child psychologist there as part of the interview and even they couldn’t keep the child quiet. After a station break, the child was nowhere to be seen.

Sounds to me like a spoiled brat.

41 posted on 07/13/2007 1:44:16 PM PDT by econjack
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To: CaptainK

I can’t believe how peacefully the passengers on our plane took it. Bridget Jones probably would have put us over the edge. I had some supplies (a few boxes of juice I smuggled on and some water), but it was friggin’ hot & I could NOT believe they wouldn’t pass out water. I was trying to encourage the man next to me to rush the cockpit so that at least we would all be able to get off the plane (while he was arrested). He was a smoker & having a hard time— it’s not easy when you expect an hour long flight but end up being held captive for a 7 hour “journey”.


42 posted on 07/13/2007 4:13:03 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too (Don't make perfect the enemy of the good)
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To: Mad Dawg

It was back in Sping of 2003. Xanax was the drug.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/13/national/main553575.shtml


43 posted on 07/13/2007 10:06:27 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix
Wow!

I wonder if he did time? This is one of those cases where I would have sued his butt off, not in the expectation of getting money to make sure he has a nice fat debt to think of or the rest of his days.

Hmm. I'd better do some praying about vindictiveness.

44 posted on 07/14/2007 4:18:58 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: stinkerpot65

“Put a waitress on and airplane with a cart full of cokes and peanuts, and she will get an exremely inflated ego.”

You’re wrong!

I was a flight attendant, and I would have never thought of acting that way. I am a Registered Nurse and a mom....mature, and knowing how to handle such a situation.

Funny, but you don’t realize that many flight attendants are physicians, lawyers, and successful business people. I also know those who are actors/actresses.

This is because when we work “full time,” that means two days or three days a week. I am recently retired, but worked ten days a month before retiring...that was full time! Great job and great benefits!

You have to understand that this gal worked for “Jet Express.” I have never heard of them. This is not a major airline....their requirements for hiring are not as strict as the major airlines. Then again, even when you’re a passenger on a major airline, you’re not always guaranteed a nice person. That goes for every public service you may encounter.


45 posted on 07/14/2007 5:43:47 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: econjack

“Sounds to me like a spoiled brat.”

Oh, look who’s talking!

I hear your mom said you spit on people from your playpen, while your twin was a perfect angel! ;)


46 posted on 07/14/2007 6:00:06 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou
I hear your mom said you spit on people from your playpen, while your twin was a perfect angel! ;)

True enough, but my Mom did something about it...I spent a lot of "timeouts" in my room! Besides, that was a couple of years ago.

47 posted on 07/14/2007 6:26:18 PM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack

“I spent a lot of “timeouts” in my room!’

You probably still need timeouts.

Okay, I might be wrong.
Afterall, you know how evil flight attendants are.


48 posted on 07/14/2007 6:38:14 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: the invisib1e hand

“everyone knows it’s the flight attendants who need the meds.”

Can we make that a law?


49 posted on 07/14/2007 6:41:05 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: maine-iac7

you can purchase all kinds of food and drinks after security check at the airport in Sacramento... there’s a food court in there at that point...


50 posted on 07/14/2007 6:43:50 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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