Posted on 07/13/2007 8:27:37 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
He's an astronomer. Last I heard the Discovery Institute did not have an astronomy department (or any other branch of science for that matter).
They are strictly a PR outfit pushing ID.
ID, in turn, has only been seriously pushed in the US since creation "science" was tossed out of the schools by a Supreme Court decision.
I take a little issue with your point that when Creationists ran the schools that Evolution was excluded. Evolution was included in my own public school education which took place not so long after Darwin proposed it. Contrary to popular belief, Christians have traditionally made waves when others disparage their religion. After all, it is the religion that teaches us to "love our enemies." That may change if the attacks keep coming. The Crusades were not about power, they were about defending the faith from extinction.
Correction: Christians has NOT traditionally made waves...
Unfortunately, there are some that believe otherwise. What I don’t understand is someone with legitimate scientific credentials not acknowledging the work done by others in their respective fields. If I (an ecologist) started spouting of about medicine or physics or anthropology and was corrected by folks who may have spent lifetimes studying those disciplines, I would hope that I would listen. It always cracks me up when some mathematician or electrical engineer presumes to pontificate on biology. Now I can balance a checkbook and rewire a lamp, but I’m not going to tell those folks I’m smarter than them,
And your still spry enough to post. Amazingly well preserved you are.
Tenure has always been an inherently political process. If you want tenure you don't use your position and title to promote controversial positions unsupported by any science. Even if your position is supported by hard data (unlike ID) you tread lightly. That's life in universities everywhere. I'm surprised this prof didn't learn that in dealing with his PhD committee.
Everybody knows that it's after a prof gets tenure that (s)he tends to truly go off the rails.
I'm quite sure you are correct. What I am looking for is something that would justify legally awarding him his tenure.
I'm quite sure you are correct. What I am looking for is something that would justify legally awarding him his tenure.
It won’t happen. If he takes it to court and proves discrimination, he could get a year’s salary. But judges are hesitant to force colleges to grant tenure.
The AAUP used to be capable of pressuring colleges to do the right thing, going as far as issuing boycotts and blacklising, but they’ve gotten very politically correct. It’s unlikely they would intervene in support of someone who has been discriminated against for an interest in intelligent design.
I presume the legislators will feel the same way about pressuring the university. So, I think the case ends with the president’s decision. Too bad.
What biology are you talking about? Gonzalez’s work is about the cosmos, galaxies, solar systems, planets, Earth, and the possibility of biological life on Earth vs other planets, exo-planets, moons, etc.
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