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Crist signs orders for greener Florida (Florida Gov Barf Alert)
MiamiHerald.com ^ | Sat. Jul. 14, 2007 | Martin Merzer

Posted on 07/14/2007 4:01:17 AM PDT by jsh3180

Cheered on by fellow Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gov. Charlie Crist signed tough -- if general -- orders to combat global warming.

The silver-haired governor of Florida stood arm-in-arm Friday with the silver-screen governor of California, joked about being recast in Twins, and then -- as the cameras rolled -- signed a groundbreaking set of environmental protection orders.

Gov. Charlie Crist described the mandates as a framework for a new, more future-friendly way of living and conducting business in Florida.

''State government is leading by example,'' he said. ``It is the right thing to do.''

It also is a popular thing to do. Symbolizing the new star power of environmentalism, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger joined Crist at the signing ceremony after delivering a variation of his trademark line:

'We have to say `Hasta la vista, baby' to greenhouse gases.''

Among the components of Crist's plan, long on goals though short on specifics:

Tough new pollution standards for automobiles; a strong regulatory push for solar and wind energy; state vehicles powered by biofuel -- all contributing to sharply reduced greenhouse gas emissions by 2017, with deeper cuts by 2025 and even more by 2050.

Friday's action propelled the state -- and Crist -- into the forefront of a new, still evolving but already politically popular struggle with global warming.

Schwarzenegger insisted that the effort represented more than a lot of hot air.

''We have our work cut out for us, and there is no time to waste,'' Schwarzenegger told 600 people at the conclusion of the two-day Florida Summit on Climate Change sponsored by Crist at the InterContinental Miami hotel. ``You are on your way.''

About an hour later, Crist signed three orders:

• Many, but not all, state operations will be required to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide and other so-called greenhouse gases by 10 percent in 2012, 25 percent by 2017 and 40 percent by 2025.

New state buildings and rented offices must be ''energy efficient'' and include solar panels where possible. State vehicles must be ''fuel efficient'' and use ethanol and biodiesel fuels when available.

Exempted from the requirements, though ''encouraged'' to embrace them: the Legislature, university system, Cabinet agencies and several state departments.

• Power companies must reduce emissions to 2000 levels by 2017, to 1990 levels by 2025 and to 80 percent of the 1990 levels by 2050.

• State regulators must demand that utilities use wind, solar or other renewable sources to produce 20 percent of their power by 2020.

• Florida will adopt California's motor vehicle emission standards, including a 22 percent reduction by 2012 and a 30 percent reduction by 2016. Those standards are being challenged in court.

Asked if he favored a return to annual inspections for Florida vehicles, a widely unpopular program that ended years ago, Crist said he preferred to pressure automakers into improving engines.

BEARING THE COST

No costs were detailed or even discussed, but most seemed likely to be borne by private industry, though they could be passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices and rates.

The varied forces at the conference -- activists, utility and other corporate officials, lobbyists, entrepreneurs -- largely lauded the effort and its goals. But they expressed awareness that the true test will come as specific plans are mapped to meet the general targets.

Challenges include technological limitations, financial constraints and competition from developing -- and less environmentally sensitive -- nations in Asia and elsewhere.

Michael Williams, a spokesman for Florida Power & Light, said his company already is recognized within the industry as a ''clean'' utility but is eager to move forward -- in ways to be determined.

'The governor has set the bar very high, and now we all have to go back and say, `OK, how do we get there?' '' Williams said.

Schwarzenegger said he has learned that some business interests might try to derail efforts to reduce pollution, even those sponsored by Republicans, who had been viewed as more sympathetic to business than Democrats.

As an example of what he faced, he mentioned a campaign in Michigan that accuses him of harming the auto industry.

'They have billboards that say, `Arnold to Michigan: Drop dead,' but that's not what I'm saying,'' Schwarzenegger told the crowd. 'What I'm saying is, `Arnold to Michigan: Get off your butts.' ''

He said Crist was joining him as a Republican governor who is ''defying conventional wisdom'' by adopting a program that could be seen as harmful to business and the economy.

''But we won't have an economy if we destroy our environment,'' Schwarzenegger said.

In addition, the Bush Administration has blocked progress at every turn, he said, compelling a growing number of governors to make an end run around Washington.

''They are not looking to Washington for leadership any more,'' Schwarzenegger said. ``They want to do their own thing.''

Finding a path through those minefields is essential, Crist and others said, especially for Florida.

ENERGY CONSUMPTION

The nation's fourth most populous state, Florida ranks third in total energy consumption -- and is still gaining an average of 980 residents a day. In addition, 70 percent of its electricity is produced by fossil fuels, which pollute the atmosphere with carbon emissions.

''State government is the largest single enterprise within Florida,'' Crist said. ``It makes sense for us to lead by example, and over the course of this summit, we will begin that leadership.''

He and supporters said that by the end of the two-day conference, little doubt remained that an important corner had been turned -- not only for the state but for the nation.

''What happens in Florida does not stay in Florida,'' said Larry Schweiger, chief executive officer of the National Wildlife Federation. ``Florida is now in the eye of a great storm.''


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; environment; environuts; globalwarming; govwatch
Recall anyone? Governing by executive order. Yaarghhhh.
1 posted on 07/14/2007 4:01:20 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: Joe Brower

Ping


2 posted on 07/14/2007 4:02:24 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180

Maybe they can start by putting out the fires that never seem to stop burning. When I stepped out of the Tampa airport to get my rental car, I knew I was in Florida just by the smell. And it wasn’t orange blossoms.


3 posted on 07/14/2007 4:05:08 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: jsh3180

Crist is already an activist governor and I’m missing Jeb already.
Crist is already costing me money on HIS plans.
Only thing I like about him is his girlfriend and man is she a babe.


4 posted on 07/14/2007 4:18:01 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: jsh3180
Interesting, that these two republican governors, who really seem to believe that those who can not project or forecast the weather, with any accuracy, out ten days actually, know what they are talking about when they project out fifty or one hundred years.

What makes this most interesting to me is how thsse two republican governors, along with all the others who support the lie of global warming, also claim to believe and follow the lie of evolution.

5 posted on 07/14/2007 4:18:10 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Past Your Eyes

Florida has had an awful lot of forest fires as a result of drought.
Let’s see you come here in say January and get off the jet from whatever craphole you’ve come from. Step into 78 degree weather and reflect on the snow you just stepped out of.
Also here we don’t have miles of pollution and stench like say N.J. or other wonderful meccas like detroit.


6 posted on 07/14/2007 4:20:34 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: jsh3180
Gee, I'm shocked. Crist acting like a RINO

My dream one day is to look out over Clearwater Beach with a good set of binoculars and scanning the horizon looking at the hundreds of oil platforms helping to make the USA free from ME oil.

Only then will the goat humpers and camel kissers feel fear

7 posted on 07/14/2007 4:20:51 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: jsh3180
though they could be passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices and rates.

Ya think?

8 posted on 07/14/2007 4:26:24 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: jsh3180

Politicians as a rule are not scientists. They are a layer of scum that floats to the top of public opinion. Public opinion is not formed by science either, it is basically emotion fed by propaganda. This would never had happened if people had turned off their TVs in the last 5 minutes of every nature show.

I think the line from “O Brother, Where Art Thou?” fits this situation: “... it’s a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.”


9 posted on 07/14/2007 4:31:18 AM PDT by RunningJoke
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To: Past Your Eyes; Joe Boucher
I knew I was in Florida just by the smell.

Good, I'm glad you dislike Florida so much, stay the hell away.

We have enough obnoxious northerners coming here.

In early fall while you are getting out your overcoats and gloves, I'm relaxing in my pool smoking a good cigar wondering just why I would want to live anywhere but Florida

10 posted on 07/14/2007 4:32:19 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: jsh3180

Florida should of had Tom Gallagher be the GOP candidate for Governor. Gallagher even said several times that Charlie Crist wasn’t really a conservative.


11 posted on 07/14/2007 4:32:32 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: jsh3180
Rino POS has been... has been as far as being a Republican. Floridians can start an ad campaign, asking crist to switch to the dim party... since his actions are those of a northeast liberal dim! Inside page... TV ads... painted bus benches, checkout lines at WalMart etc.

LLS

12 posted on 07/14/2007 4:40:45 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Goodness, aren’t we touchy this morning?

I believe it was February when I last visited your state.

It wouldn’t be all that difficult to find out what “craphole” I came from.


13 posted on 07/14/2007 4:43:16 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: jsh3180

So if I’m reading this right, the governor is asking the state bureaucracy to interfere with private industry and pummel free enterprise with arbitrary and capricious regulations.

It looks like Florida living is about to get more expensive. I believe the economists at Wharton recently raised the costs of complying with global warming mandates to more than $4,000 annually per family. Citizens in Britian are already getting socked with increased road taxes - with proposals raising it from £210 to £5,000 - in order to combat “car use and ownership.”

Brits could also see a washing machine tax, a dishwasher tax, a dryer tax, a lightbulb tax and an air travel tax. (I believe the air travel carbon tax has already been enacted.)

The grand total of new taxes for a family of four would be an additional £1,163 per year, according to an analysis by the Daily Mail last year.


14 posted on 07/14/2007 4:44:38 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Popman

Gracious, we have another one with a hair across his ass this morning. Must be an epidemic.


15 posted on 07/14/2007 4:44:45 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: jsh3180

What this means, of course, is another army of mindless burocrats pushing papers, bullying the working man and woman, and fixing things that aren’t broken. Bigger government! More government workers! A bigger army of parasites!


16 posted on 07/14/2007 4:53:31 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Ignore the will of the people at your peril, Political "Aristocrats"!)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Gracious, we have another one with a hair across his ass this morning. Must be an epidemic.

Nay, just really tired of visiting northerners making snap judgments about one of the most beautiful states in the country and great place to live.

17 posted on 07/14/2007 4:59:46 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: jsh3180

BTTT for later ....

Dang Charlie, I voted for ya’, now you do this....
just dang


18 posted on 07/14/2007 5:08:05 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...temporarily out of service ....()
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Me too and I don’t recall Crist the candidate ever campaigning on the theme that he was going to be Florida’s version of Arnold.


19 posted on 07/14/2007 5:18:47 AM PDT by WarrenC
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To: jsh3180

The lesson here? Conservatives don’t let conservatives vote for RINOs.


20 posted on 07/14/2007 5:19:03 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Popman
Don’t worry about it popman.

I just came back from Maine. - Passed through NH and could tell I was in NH instantly by the miles of closed factories along I 95 and the sky high taxes.

Lots of little wine fields and cheese makers in the ruins. Scenic.
Not as bad as Massholy than thee, I admit, although the locals do share a common curious and unearned snobbery.

21 posted on 07/14/2007 5:32:41 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...


22 posted on 07/14/2007 5:35:35 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: jsh3180

‘’State government is the largest single enterprise within Florida,’’ Crist said.

This is the whole problem nationwide.


23 posted on 07/14/2007 6:06:25 AM PDT by Fireone (Duncan Hunter for (Vice) President '08! - gohunter08.com Fred Thompson/Hunter in 2008)
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To: jsh3180; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

New!!: Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH

Ping me if you find one I've missed.


Another victim of "Global Dumbing"
24 posted on 07/14/2007 6:10:12 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: jsh3180
Its socialism - by executive order.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 07/14/2007 6:11:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jsh3180; All
• Power companies must reduce emissions to 2000 levels by 2017, to 1990 levels by 2025 and to 80 percent of the 1990 levels by 2050.

• State regulators must demand that utilities use wind, solar or other renewable sources to produce 20 percent of their power by 2020.

• Florida will adopt California's motor vehicle emission standards, including a 22 percent reduction by 2012 and a 30 percent reduction by 2016. Those standards are being challenged in court.

GOOD! All three of these need to be challenged in court. Who does Crist think he is, il Duce? Since when does a governor merely dictate to companies and citizenry how to live their lives--without the legislature's (aka the people's) approval? Is this kind of action even constitutional?

I have no problem with Crist ordering government buildings to "go green"...that is, cut down on energy use....but this idiocy of making ordinary joes pay out the nose for his carbon-cutting fetish is ridiculous.

Asked if he favored a return to annual inspections for Florida vehicles, a widely unpopular program that ended years ago, Crist said he preferred to pressure automakers into improving engines.

What a friggin' idiot. The automakers WERE improving engines, Chuckles. And they continue to do that...your "pressure" isn't needed, and will in fact merely increase the cost to the consumer. Geez, can we take this guy, tie him down in a chair in front of Dr. Sowell, pry his eyes open like in "A Clockwork Orange" and teach him some friggin' economics???!!??

No costs were detailed or even discussed, but most seemed likely to be borne by private industry, though they could be passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices and rates.

NO S--T, SHERLOCK!!!!! Well, lookey here....a news writer with some COMMON SENSE AND INTELLIGENCE. I just wish this part of the story hadn't been buried in the middle of the article. It ought to be at the very top: consumers forced to pay higher prices is the real story here.

Sorry for the rant, folks, but Crist is really really really really really really off the reservation here.

I made phone calls for the guy and asked people to vote for him in the general election. This action is WRONG as WRONG can be.

26 posted on 07/14/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: jsh3180; Joe Brower
Hey, Charlie, your last name is Crist, not CHRIST. California emissions standards for automobiles? You’re out of your frickin mind. And it is quite troubling that you can do that with an executive order and not via the legislature. This will not stand. You thought you were arm anm-in-arm with Arnold but it was really Gray Davis.
27 posted on 07/14/2007 6:34:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I just fired off this letter to Charlie, via the Governor’s website:

Dear Governor Crist:

Although I voted for you in the 2006 election, please be advised there is no way I will make the same mistake in the next Governor’s election. Your ridiculous pandering to unproven “science” through your executive order concerning greenhouse gas emissions, has cost you any future vote for yourself, by me, in any election in which you are on the ticket, EVER.

Perhaps you should consider moving to California, where they might appreciate your style.

I vote a straight Republican ticket in every election. I certainly made a mistake in voting for you.

How about letting the Legislature legislate and keep your useless ideas to yourself.

Every day that passes brings more doubt to the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming, your interest in this fad is absurd.

I would, however, strongly support a recall of your reckless administration.

Sincerely,

xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sugarloaf Key, Fl.


28 posted on 07/14/2007 6:36:14 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180
Charlie Crist is the Sunshine State’s “Michael Bloomberg.” I miss Jeb, too.
29 posted on 07/14/2007 6:39:34 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: jsh3180

I was thinking about moving out of Florida, but never thought seriously about doing it...until now.


30 posted on 07/14/2007 6:41:14 AM PDT by RavenATB
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Great. Just what we need. Fl is having a wave of foreclosures, taxes and homeowner’s insurance is killing us, and people are starting to reject FL as the state of retirement. They certainly don’t come here for the schooling or high salaries.

So what does the governor do? Put MORE expensive burdens on us! Yes!

The thing is people here do have a special love for the environment and many will fall for the twaddle.


31 posted on 07/14/2007 6:43:09 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: bill1952; Popman
Hmm, didn’t New Hampshire approve same sex “civil unions”, and didn’t they outlaw all smoking in restaurants and bars? Oh right, and the state spending just went up 17%, and both houses are Democratic controlled. Not to worry though, you don’t have to wear your seat belt, lol.
32 posted on 07/14/2007 6:44:29 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: Fireone

My way of dealing with this would be smaller government, not grener government. In my experience their are overlapping duplicate bureaucracies falling all over each other. Reorganize and close some down. Problem solved.


33 posted on 07/14/2007 7:49:56 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

FPL is a leader in wind farms and owns them across the country, but not in FL. However, I knew a woman who worked security for the CEO and saw plans for offshore windmills 20 years ago. They must be waiting til they can get subsidies, or something. I like windmills, but I head the warnings of power experts. We seems to be on a fools errand that will lead to blackouts everywhere.


34 posted on 07/14/2007 7:55:05 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: jsh3180

“Stroke of the pen, law of the land.”

NOT cool in my book.


35 posted on 07/14/2007 8:27:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Joe Brower


36 posted on 07/14/2007 8:29:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Tom Gallagher ran as a social conservative first, Florida will never elect a purely social conservative. We really don’t care who you sleep with or marry, what concerns us is protecting our property value and fixing the insurance & property tax crisis. A platform upon which Crist ran and has now failed with. I expect Charlie to be a one-term Governor.


37 posted on 07/14/2007 9:47:39 AM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: Joe Boucher
"Only thing I like about him is his girlfriend .."

Pictured here anywhere?

38 posted on 07/14/2007 10:57:25 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The democRAT party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I have no problem with Crist ordering government buildings to "go green"...

I have long wondered why the government has preached solar to the populace
yet they have not installed solar equipment in state/local buildings. Government schools
should also be outfitted with solar assist equipment, do they really
think we are that unaware or informed.....Oh wait I know the answer to that

39 posted on 07/14/2007 12:40:35 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...temporarily out of service ....()
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

That’s what I was just thinking....
susie


40 posted on 07/14/2007 8:24:47 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: NautiNurse

Hey, B-A!!!! Was thinking of you yesterday.....haven’t seen you on here too often. Hoping all is well.


41 posted on 07/14/2007 8:26:42 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: jsh3180
I'm tellin' ya--this crap is going to get legs and Algore will ride into the nomination on it.
42 posted on 07/14/2007 8:28:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Past Your Eyes
Gracious, we have another one with a hair across his ass this morning. Must be an epidemic

For people who claim to live in paradise they sure are cranky.

43 posted on 07/14/2007 8:33:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: jsh3180
''But we won't have an economy if we destroy our environment,'' Schwarzenegger said.

God, this guy acts dumber by the day. He and Crist both can go to Hell.

44 posted on 07/14/2007 10:59:56 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Conservatives are educated. Liberals are indoctrinated.)
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To: jsh3180
It seems everyone was warned that Crist was a liberal in RINO's clothing. We didn't have much of a choice, did we?

As far as the drought, it's been raining in most parts of the state. However, for every inch of rain that falls, 10 new homes or businesses sprout up. Not that I'm against growth or building, but we sensibly must have the infrastructure to support it.

45 posted on 07/15/2007 3:10:24 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Soon to be Fredbacker1)
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To: mkjessup

Mama’s don’t let your conservatives grow up to be RINO’s . . .


46 posted on 07/15/2007 4:14:39 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Greg F
Mama’s don’t let your conservatives grow up to be RINO’s . . .

A shame nobody sang that to Barbara Bush.
47 posted on 07/15/2007 5:18:11 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

I expect to work diligently to ensure that Charlie is a one-term Governor!


48 posted on 07/15/2007 1:44:19 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Only thing I like about him is his girlfriend and man is she a babe.

I'm not giving my opinion, but the gay community down here swears that Crist is gay. I've read many such articles in the artsy weekly newspapers. They stated that the only reason they didn't out him was because he is Gay friendly. This was a stealth candidate from the start.

49 posted on 07/16/2007 7:21:34 AM PDT by Paradox (Foreign Policy suggestions from Jimmy Carter are like Beauty Tips from Rosie O'Donnell)
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