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Found: the giant lion-eating chimps of the magic forest
The Guardian ^ | 7/14/07 | James Randerson

Posted on 07/14/2007 2:51:58 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Deep in the Congolese jungle is a band of apes that, according to local legend, kill lions, catch fish and even howl at the moon. Local hunters speak of massive creatures that seem to be some sort of hybrid between a chimp and a gorilla.

Their location at the centre of one of the bloodiest conflicts on the planet, the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo, has meant that the mystery apes have been little studied by western scientists. Reaching the region means negotiating the shifting fortunes of warring rebel factions, and the heart of the animals' range is deep in impenetrable forest.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; chimps; crevo; eating; environment; giant; lion
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I'm just interested in the existence of the beasts, not in whether or not they are a "threatened species," lol.

I suppose any new species found from here on out will be threatened by definition, if their numbers are so small that they've escaped detection until the 21st century. Probably why envirowhackos are so interested in new species. Something new to get automatically hysterical about.

1 posted on 07/14/2007 2:52:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Oh, for heaven’s sake. I saw this in a movie. Same story. I think the writer had a deadline and just made this up.


2 posted on 07/14/2007 2:54:33 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
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To: LibWhacker

Aunt Patsy, is that you?


3 posted on 07/14/2007 2:55:01 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

wasn’t that the B-movie “silverback” on SciFi?


4 posted on 07/14/2007 2:59:08 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: LibWhacker

They might get hysterical but there’s not much they can do in that region.

I question the lion eating prowess of these apes. Lions usually work in prides and it would be difficult to seperate one out and kill it, especially since you might suffer casualties in the process. My guess is that they are opportunistic scavengers. Still, it’s interesting to find undiscovered outposts like this on the planet.


5 posted on 07/14/2007 2:59:48 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite

I disagree. Lions are much easier to kill than Kiwanis, Rotary, or Optomist Club members.


6 posted on 07/14/2007 3:03:38 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: LibWhacker

7 posted on 07/14/2007 3:06:29 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: colorado tanker; blam; SunkenCiv; Kenny Bunk

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8 posted on 07/14/2007 3:07:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: LibWhacker

Relax.
That’s just my mother-in-law. She’s off on vacation again. She’ll be back home in a week or so. Just chill, okay?


9 posted on 07/14/2007 3:12:30 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL!!!
You win as the best quip of the day :-)


10 posted on 07/14/2007 3:15:13 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I don’t even want to know how you know that!


11 posted on 07/14/2007 3:17:14 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: LibWhacker

Have you watched “Congo”? If you go, wear a sturdy helmet.


12 posted on 07/14/2007 3:20:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: saganite
They might get hysterical but there’s not much they can do in that region.

I don't know. Perhaps we should go around to college campuses and try to convince the liberals to jump on a plane and go there to save the threatened animals.

13 posted on 07/14/2007 3:20:26 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: saganite

I don’t belive lions typically live in the jungle either.


14 posted on 07/14/2007 3:21:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek

I didn’t know that lions lived in the jungle, either. The article also equated elephants and buffalo to predators.


15 posted on 07/14/2007 3:27:37 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: cripplecreek

The only evidence cited in the article involved a Leopard. I believe you’re right. Lions usually operate in more open country.


16 posted on 07/14/2007 3:28:18 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: cripplecreek

Congo?

Which one?
This one?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310911/


17 posted on 07/14/2007 3:29:14 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

This one.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112715/


18 posted on 07/14/2007 3:32:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: LibWhacker

http://www.stiftungleostrauss.com/media/1/20070112-monkey.gif


19 posted on 07/14/2007 3:32:31 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Shermy; pcottraux

Thanks Shermy.

Chimps killing lions could be a fabulous detail, but could also be true. Only lionesses live in prides with an alpha male and any cubs. Male lions travel and hunt alone either before they win a pride of their own, or after they’re old and infirm and run out by a younger male. The latter sometimes wind up as “maneaters”.

This all sounds more like baboons?


20 posted on 07/14/2007 3:42:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday the 13th, July 2007. Trisdecaphobia! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek; Tijeras_Slim

Not only do they live in the mighty jungle, THEY SLEEP TONIGHT.


21 posted on 07/14/2007 3:48:07 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks!

I saw that film at the top of the list, but thought it must be another since it was only rated something like 4.4 out of 10...

Is it worth watching? I’m forever looking for new films to watch with my wife... I think I’ve seen everything worth seeing. She is not crazy about Science Fiction - but I am... on the other hand, I can’t stand “chick flicks”.

:-)


22 posted on 07/14/2007 3:48:18 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: LibWhacker

the heart of the animals’ range is deep in impenetrable forest.
OF course, where ELSE would it be?


23 posted on 07/14/2007 3:49:48 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Bon mots

I didn’t like the movie. I suppose for the fiction it’s OK but it’s one of those anti corporate movies where the bad (rich) folks get what’s coming to them.

Oddly enough, one of my all time favorites was “Silent Running” from the early 70s. It was an environmentalist anti nuke movie but who couldn’t enjoy watching Bruce Dern blow himself up while orbiting Jupiter.


24 posted on 07/14/2007 3:57:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyjq9RJ-_yM

Speaking of the sleeping lion.


25 posted on 07/14/2007 4:11:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: LibWhacker

I don’t believe this one.


26 posted on 07/14/2007 4:13:38 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Oh, for heaven’s sake. I saw this in a movie. Same story. I think the writer had a deadline and just made this up.

It was a book first and this article sounds like a description of the book! I think the name of the book was "Congo" but can't be sure, it has been some time since I read it, and yes, they did make a movie of it but, as per usual, they changed it quite a bit.

27 posted on 07/14/2007 4:25:01 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks Shermy. Chimps killing lions could be a fabulous detail, but could also be true. Only lionesses live in prides with an alpha male and any cubs. Male lions travel and hunt alone either before they win a pride of their own, or after they’re old and infirm and run out by a younger male. The latter sometimes wind up as “maneaters”. This all sounds more like baboons?

You are correct about the baboons, they have been known to kill leopards that attack their young, and have occasionally attacked humans.

28 posted on 07/14/2007 4:28:43 PM PDT by calex59
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To: cripplecreek
Thanks for the warning. I just wasted 1 1/2 hours watching a stupid film with a pretty good rating on IMDB...

The end was the only part watching, but I could have made a film out of that in just 4 minutes or so...

The movie was "Fountain", and I watched the whole stupid movie to see the end, when the guy finds the tree of eternal life...

...and...

SPOILER WARNING!!!!!

He sees how the sap hits the ground and flowers blossom from nothing... so he thinks its's the fountain of youth and drinks the sap...

...SECOND SPOILER WARNING...

...but then instead of becoming youthful, flowers start blossoming from him and he turns into a bed of flowers.

What a waste of 90 minutes!

29 posted on 07/14/2007 4:29:25 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: LibWhacker
By definition, any new species is "threatened" because of low numbers.

It took a long time and a lot of work for us to go from threatened to threatening.

Personally, I like being at the top of the food chain.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

30 posted on 07/14/2007 4:32:37 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: cripplecreek
Have you watched “Congo”? If you go, wear a sturdy helmet.

An OK book my Michael Chriton, and a really bad movie!

Mark

31 posted on 07/14/2007 4:40:15 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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32 posted on 07/14/2007 5:13:15 PM PDT by pcottraux (Fred Thompson pronounces it "P. Coe-troe"...in 2008.)
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To: LibWhacker

I used to drink beer with some of their relatives here.


33 posted on 07/14/2007 5:15:06 PM PDT by DaGman (`)
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To: Lazamataz; Tax-chick; xsmommy; humblegunner; Allegra; Bacon Man; Hap; pax_et_bonum; Eaker; ...
Found: the giant lion-eating chimps of the magic forest

Now that's what I call a headline.
34 posted on 07/14/2007 5:28:41 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Poser

Dang! I just finished washing out my mind’s eye, now I have to take the Lifebuoy to my computer. Sheesh. Warn a guy next time, ok?


35 posted on 07/14/2007 5:35:47 PM PDT by redhead (Victory first; then peace)
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To: LibWhacker
Damn. I want a giant lion-eating chimp.
36 posted on 07/14/2007 5:36:52 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: Xenalyte
Found: the giant lion-eating chimps of the magic forest

I hope the giant lion eats lots of magical chimps in the forest.

Go, giant lion!

Scarf up them magical chimps! Hoo yah, baby!

37 posted on 07/14/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: LibWhacker

***Found: the giant lion-eating chimps of the magic forest
The Guardian ***

Somehow I get the vision of King Kong chomping down on a native islander.


38 posted on 07/14/2007 5:43:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Yes!


39 posted on 07/14/2007 5:43:47 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: humblegunner

Hey Bro, looks like you finaly got your internet connection up and running.


40 posted on 07/14/2007 5:44:23 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: tet68

Sometimes it’s found in the kidneys. At least, that’s what I read in the...appendix.


41 posted on 07/14/2007 5:52:39 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: eastforker
Hey Bro, looks like you finaly got your internet connection up and running.

Nah, not yet. Maybe next week.

I'm still pirating the neighbors.

Hear that thunder???

42 posted on 07/14/2007 6:11:27 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: humblegunner

Yup, just lost power for a second, oh well, still going fishin at the jetties in the morning in the new /old boat. Next weekend, giant yard sale, FSS, three days. Maybe following weekend you, the eakers and us maybe can all go fishin, whadayathink.


43 posted on 07/14/2007 6:18:50 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: humblegunner

Sounds like someone is detonating bombs around my house.

My four year old was so terrified she kept screaming. Thank goodness for loud air purifiers and bedtime.


44 posted on 07/14/2007 6:22:02 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: eastforker; Eaker; TheMom

forgot to ping you two.


45 posted on 07/14/2007 6:31:01 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: LibWhacker
When he investigated he came across a chimp feasting on the carcass of a leopard. Mr Hicks cannot be sure the animal was killed by the chimp.

Once I came home early and I came across my wife feasting on the carcass of a cow (sandwich). I cannot be sure the animal was killed by my wife.

46 posted on 07/14/2007 6:31:19 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

However, a Moose will kick yer butt!


47 posted on 07/14/2007 6:36:19 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: eastforker; Eaker; TheMom; pax_et_bonum
Maybe following weekend you, the eakers and us maybe can all go fishin, whadayathink.

Fishin' it is, with frying, too!

I should have a reliable connection by Monday or Tuesday.

I'll give y'all a holler.

48 posted on 07/14/2007 6:40:42 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: Eaker; TheMom
I cannot be sure the animal was killed by my wife.

Odds say the animal was killed by your wife.

Statistics don't lie.

49 posted on 07/14/2007 6:43:57 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: humblegunner; TheMom; Eaker; pax_et_bonum

cool,should have enough rods and tackle for everyone, lets see how it goes.


50 posted on 07/14/2007 6:44:14 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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