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Poll: Shaheen has clear shot at U.S. Senate (NH)
The Concord Monitor ^ | July 14, 2007 | Lauren R. Dorgan

Posted on 07/14/2007 4:45:22 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

N o one doubts that Sen. John Sununu has a fight on his hands when he runs for re-election next year. But if former governor Jeanne Shaheen decides to challenge Sununu to a rematch, a new poll shows he could face a rout.

A new Monitor poll has Shaheen, a Democrat, handily beating Sununu, a Republican, 56 percent to 34 percent. But paired against any of the Democrats currently in the race to unseat him, Sununu wins, holding a 46 percent share while the challengers' support ranges from 24 to 32 percent.

"It's whether Shaheen wants to make him a present by staying out of the race," said Linda Fowler, a Dartmouth professor of government. "If she doesn't, he might squeak by."

Nine months after Granite Staters voted Democratic up and down the ballot - giving the party control of the House, Senate, governor's office, Executive Council and both congressional seats - the climate remains hostile to Republicans.

(Excerpt) Read more at concordmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2008; electioncongress; electionussenate; jeanneshaheen; polls; sununu
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1 posted on 07/14/2007 4:45:24 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

...from a circus cannon, maybe....


2 posted on 07/14/2007 4:46:03 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; LdSentinal; Theodore R.; MassachusettsGOP; ...

It looks like that American Research Group poll was not a fluke.

New Hampshire has changed. It’s becoming North Massachusetts.


3 posted on 07/14/2007 4:48:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I bet I’m not the only sucker who looked at that headline, read “Sheehan” and about busted a blood vessel... ;-)


4 posted on 07/14/2007 4:50:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Clintonfatigued

The war and Shamnesty are really unpopular in NH, Sunnunu is catching GWB’s cold


5 posted on 07/14/2007 4:50:24 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Billthedrill
I should have inserted “Jeanne” in parenthesis. My mistake.
6 posted on 07/14/2007 4:51:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sununu seems like a lost cause for 2008... state of New Hampshire has just changed too much.

Hopefully Republican Party will be realistic and focus upon defending “red state” Senate seats, so as to preclude Dems from getting near 60 seat filibuster-proof majority.

All that money wasted in New Jersey in 2006 would have been much better spent in Virginia or Montana, and probably would have preserved a Republican majority in Senate through 2008.


7 posted on 07/14/2007 4:54:11 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: Clintonfatigued

Shaheen hasn’t given any indication that she’s tired of politics, like Gore for example. I expect she will run. There’s no reason to announce this early when you have the name ID and favorables she has. And she’ll win. NH hates George W Bush, like he was a pedophile.


8 posted on 07/14/2007 4:54:46 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well, screw the NH libs and their 2 votes.

I’m serious, it may be time to revisit the idea of succession. After all, NH produces so much of value ....


9 posted on 07/14/2007 4:54:53 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Billthedrill
I bet I’m not the only sucker who looked at that headline, read “Sheehan” and about busted a blood vessel... ;-)

I'll fess up to that one. My eyes were halfway out of my head before my brain issued a "stand down, false alarm" message.

10 posted on 07/14/2007 4:54:58 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This seems to be ONLY if Shaheen runs, she may not. He still beats other challengers. NH gets rodent fatigue fairly quickly when it veers to the left. It’s only been 6 months. Still 16 months until the election.


11 posted on 07/14/2007 4:56:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That is true historically, but in the past, New Hampshire’s population had remained pretty stagnant. Now, it’s full of Massachusetts liberals who want to escape the problems of their native state but also brought their liberalism with them.


12 posted on 07/14/2007 5:06:31 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

We shall see what happens, but I’m not giving up just yet.


13 posted on 07/14/2007 5:14:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Clintonfatigued

Samething that California did to Colorado and Washington state.


14 posted on 07/14/2007 5:15:40 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Billthedrill

You’re not....


15 posted on 07/14/2007 5:16:13 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

It seems like every state is becoming blue.


16 posted on 07/14/2007 5:19:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
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To: Clintonfatigued

2008 is more likely than not to be a disaster for the GOP in the House, Senate, and across the fruited plain. A net loss of 4 or 5 Senate seats, and half dozen House seats, seems where it’s at now.


17 posted on 07/14/2007 5:20:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: padre35

>> The war and Shamnesty are really unpopular in NH, Sunnunu is catching GWB’s cold

It’s global warming. Those people can’t think straight unless they’re skiing.


18 posted on 07/14/2007 5:23:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: nj26

If they spent the money in Montana and Virginia, they would have helped reelect Senators that were sure NO votes on Amnesty IMHO.


19 posted on 07/14/2007 5:26:33 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Serves him right. Wasn’t his old man responsible for giving us David Souter on the US Supreme Court?


20 posted on 07/14/2007 5:27:03 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
New Hampshire has changed. It’s becoming North Massachusetts.

New Hampshire has changed. It has become North Massachusetts.

(There....fixed it for ya)

21 posted on 07/14/2007 5:29:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Billthedrill

No, you’re not the only one. Funny how one’s brain can interpret things so wrongly.


22 posted on 07/14/2007 5:31:14 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: HitmanLV

I’m not ready to believe that, at least not yet. Fred Thompson is polling strongly against the Rodent candidates, and he hasn’t even announced.


23 posted on 07/14/2007 5:44:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Rockitz

“Wasn’t his old man responsible for giving us David Souter on the US Supreme Court?”

That was mostly Warren Rudman’s doing.


24 posted on 07/14/2007 5:44:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Gay State Conservative

That’s too bad. I used to live there. Great state—or at least it was.


25 posted on 07/14/2007 5:49:14 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Billthedrill

I did the same thing.


26 posted on 07/14/2007 5:50:17 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: rbg81
That’s too bad. I used to live there. Great state—or at least it was.

If only they had been able to seal their four borders (including their northern border) 30 years ago things would be OK there now.

27 posted on 07/14/2007 5:52:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: padre35

Oddly, it was GWB who supposedly decided that the senior Sununu had to go back in 1991. Now the junior Sununu must tell GWB that he must go! And Sununu will still likely lose.


28 posted on 07/14/2007 5:54:18 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hmmm, another semi-doom and gloom thread on FR about the advance of liberalism. Senator Sununu may be in for a tough fight next year, but he’s been in battles before and always come out on top. Remember that he beat the supposedly popular Gov. Shaheen in 2002 when he got outspend by a wide margin and nearly every poll showed him losing. What has feminazi Jeanne been doing the last 5 years since her defeat? Not a lot in New Hampshire, as far as I know. If she runs next year Sununu will clean her clock in the debates just like he did the first time around, and the conservative grass roots will give him a big boost. My money’s on John for this one.


29 posted on 07/14/2007 6:06:09 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: Billthedrill
I bet I’m not the only sucker who looked at that headline, read “Sheehan” and about busted a blood vessel
You beat me to it... that was the reason I clicked into here :/
30 posted on 07/14/2007 6:54:47 PM PDT by MrJapan
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To: Clintonfatigued

From moonbat central, I can almost believe it.


31 posted on 07/14/2007 7:11:21 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: LiveFree99

I sure hope you’re right. I am not feeling very optimistic. We have to defend 21 seats, the dems only have to defend 12. I think 2008 will be the low point, after that, I think you will see a big comeback in the Northeast.


32 posted on 07/14/2007 7:13:48 PM PDT by TPNoGa
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t give up on Sununu yet.


33 posted on 07/14/2007 7:22:57 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I thought she was running against Pelosi?!


34 posted on 07/14/2007 7:30:16 PM PDT by bluebeak
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To: TPNoGa

It can be easy to get caught up in the bad news of the day and get depressed. For things out of my immediate control I take the long view and live my life the best I can. Sure, it was awful when the Rats took the election last year, but nothing has directly changed in my life because of it yet. And the political tides may soon be turning with the onset of the presidential race. If the worst happens and the Rats win next year... well, my life will go on, as will yours.


35 posted on 07/14/2007 7:30:42 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Don’t forget Montana, and probably Idaho too.


36 posted on 07/14/2007 7:44:34 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: padre35

Let’s not be defeatist on this:
1. Sununu did the right thing on immigration, he voted against it, while every Demcorat running for Pres is for it and doubtless Sheehan will be a pro-amnesty shill as well.
2. Sununu is strong on anti-taxes
3. We’ve seen women Democrats who have strong leads that become losses, both Ann Richards and whoever ran in Cali in 1994, same story different state. A strong issue-based campaign can defeat such a candidate.
4. 2 years of the worst Congress ever, Democrat deceptive and destructive demagoguery will lead to fatigue.
5. The Democrats are showing that they are more incompetent on the war than anyone.
6. Last, Sununu is a good senator, strong on fiscal issues, and very solid conservative in a state that, as noted is getting bluer.

Sununu is far from a ‘lost cause’ but can and should win. If we want to stop amnesty from happening in the future, we should fight for his seat.


37 posted on 07/14/2007 7:51:12 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: HitmanLV

Very clueless comment.

The Democrats have taken a nosedive in the polls in recent months, and each month their misgovernance give more grist for Republican campaigns.

There are 10 or so former GOP seats in Democrats hands that could and should easily return to GOP hands. It is very easy for forecast significant GOP gains, I don’t see how you can forecast GOP losses.

As for the Senatoe: If Sununu is a ‘sure loss’ (he isn’t) than South Dakota, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Montana are “sure gains” (they aren’t but they are better for the GOP than NH is for the Dems).


38 posted on 07/14/2007 7:55:34 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: WOSG

Well stated. Sununu should also get a lot of support from the pro-lifers, who will be motivated by Gov. Lynch’s repeal of the parental notification law and especially by Shaheen’s obnoxious in-your-face feminazi positions on abortion. Last but definitely not least, Sununu will have Paul Collins, who is the best campaign manager in the state, in charge of his reelection effort.


39 posted on 07/14/2007 7:59:40 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: LiveFree99

“Shaheen’s obnoxious in-your-face feminazi positions on abortion. Last but definitely not least, Sununu will have Paul Collins, who is the best campaign manager in the state, in charge of his reelection effort.”

Good points.
Sununu vs Shaheen is the difference between a vote for Roberts and Alito vs a vote for Ginsburg.


40 posted on 07/14/2007 8:05:31 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: WOSG

Clueless or not, there are no signs of life coming from the GOP.

HINT: The dems doing poorly doesn’t equal a sign of life for the GOP.


41 posted on 07/14/2007 8:17:54 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: LiveFree99

I always thought of NH as being quite libertarian, anti-nanny state. The fact that Shaheen polls so well troubles me greatly about what the Granite State has become. Didn’t she try to raise property taxes or something?

Still, the Republicans had a good year in 2002, so it’s not as if an army Mass. and Vermont liberals just swarmed in there since then.

Besides, maybe they won’t react well to Hillary and provide a damper on Shaheen’s chances.


42 posted on 07/14/2007 8:24:54 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Groundchuck Hagel and Lindsey Grahamcracker are undesirable menu items in 2008. Make new choices!)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
New Hampshire, as with every state, is a unique case. Speaking in general terms, yes, there was and is a form of libertarian spirit here that emphasizes maximum personal freedom, personal responsibility, limited government, local control, and a general live and let live attitude. There are also the traditional elements of the Reagan coalition, three that are particularly powerful: the anti-tax people, the pro-lifers, and the Second Amendment activists.

Now, New Hampshire had a reputation for being a Republican bastion that probably was not fully warranted. There always were plenty of Democrats here and they were sometimes elected as governor, senator, or congressman. The great success the state GOP had in the past 20 years or so was to take their slight advantage in numbers and turn it into a great majority in elected officials. They did this by consistently fielding better candidates than the Rats and by running better, smarter campaigns. But, all things come to an end, as they did last year.

As for mean Jeanne and taxes, you're probably refering to her statewide property tax, which was a kluged response to an outrageous state supreme court decision mandating an "adequate education" (they didn't define it) for all public school children. It was a way for the state to throw some money to the poorer school districts and it probably didn't affect most property owner's final tax. But even she was smart enough not to dare try pushing a state income or sales tax, which would have finished her career for good. That's the quick version of the saga, which is still ongoing years after it started.

Lastly, I wouldn't get too hung up on polls, especially more than a year before the election. Sununu has a knack for peaking right on election day, and I hope that'll be the case in 2008.

43 posted on 07/14/2007 8:51:22 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: Billthedrill
I bet I’m not the only sucker who looked at that headline, read “Sheehan” and about busted a blood vessel... ;-)

LOL!!! No, you're not my friend. I did the same thing; except I didn't even come close to busting a blood vessel.
I'm hoping that the ol' grief pimp does run against Pelosi. She won't have a chance but hey; get out the popcorn.
44 posted on 07/14/2007 8:55:46 PM PDT by no dems (If there is no pressure, there is no change.)
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To: nj26
All that money wasted in New Jersey in 2006 would have been much better spent in Virginia or Montana...

Nah, it wouldn't have mattered. The ol' fart from Montana was so out of touch with his constituents and most of his good old boy network had died from old age so, there went his "base".

As for Virginia: George Allen kept whining like a little girl and apologizing, a million times, for the "macaca" incident, and it made him look weak and not the man's man his dad was. If he would have had the 'nads to say: "Yeah, I said it; bite me", he'd have had a better chance of surviving the GOP blood-bath of '06.
45 posted on 07/14/2007 9:02:47 PM PDT by no dems (If there is no pressure, there is no change.)
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To: LiveFree99

“Hmmm, another semi-doom and gloom thread on FR about the advance of liberalism. Senator Sununu may be in for a tough fight next year, but he’s been in battles before and always come out on top. Remember that he beat the supposedly popular Gov. Shaheen in 2002 when he got outspend by a wide margin and nearly every poll showed him losing. What has feminazi Jeanne been doing the last 5 years since her defeat? Not a lot in New Hampshire, as far as I know. If she runs next year Sununu will clean her clock in the debates just like he did the first time around, and the conservative grass roots will give him a big boost. My money’s on John for this one.”

Hear, hear ... LIVE FREE OR DIE FIGHTING!


46 posted on 07/14/2007 10:10:54 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sadly Sununu SHOULD be defeated....but by a REAL REPUBLICAN!


47 posted on 07/14/2007 10:13:27 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: no dems

Despite massive WashPost bias against him, Allen only lost by a few thousand votes. His problem was not being overly apologetic, but conservatives willing to throw him under the bus because he’s not perfect.


48 posted on 07/14/2007 10:16:44 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
>> A new Monitor poll has Shaheen, a Democrat, handily beating Sununu, a Republican, 56 percent to 34 percent <<

Interesting. The whole reason Sununu got to be a Senator in the first place is by prolaiming he was sooooooooooo "electable" against Shaheen. Could it be the little blue-blooded elitist Sununu isn't exactly Mr. Popularity when the rest of the NH GOP is no longer in power to prop him up? And yet some people here still believe New Hampshire Republicans would have magically won last time around if Johnny had been on the ballot.

People are sick of the "buisness as usual" Republican machine candidates in NH and have been throwing them out right and left lately. The only ones left standing are Sununu and Judd "I got this job cuz my daddy was Governor" Gregg, and the reason why they're still standing is Senators are up six year terms so they haven't been tested yet in NH's current political climate.

The best thing that could happen in this race is Bush could quietly kick Sununu upstairs by giving him an appointed job, and leave us with an open seat in NH, allowing the GOP voters to start over and pick a fresh face (Bruce Keough, who came in 2nd in the 2002 gubernatoral primary and SHOULD have won, is an excellent choice) that has NO ties to the discredited GOP establishment old guard in the state.

49 posted on 07/14/2007 10:23:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: HitmanLV

“Clueless or not, there are no signs of life coming from the GOP.”

I am offended and appalled by such statements.

Democrats who vote more pathetically than the worst RINOs are praised for merely a token vote or two.

Meanwhile, we have Republicans who are day-in day-out busting their chops for issues we care about and they get NO PRAISE OR RECOGNITION!!!

Did you not notice how some great key conservative Republican Senators stood up to sham-nesty? Senator Sessions, Vitter, DeMint, Coburn, Inhofe, Dole, Cornyn, and a number of otherswho got on board the opposition...

Did you not notice Bush’s veto of stem cell sham?
Or bush’s veto of the plan last April to lost in Iraq? Which incompetent Reid and Pelosi folded on and are now making a second try at losing?

Or Boehner’s exposing the earmark sham that the Democrats in the House were putting together .. and *winning* on it?

Yeah, maybe you didnt here the lamestream press put it on page 1, but if you read FR you have no excuse.
The incompetent Congress is getting challenged by conservative Republicans and IT IS ABOUT TIME WE PRAISED THEM FOR IT AND ENCOURAGED THEM TO DO MORE!


50 posted on 07/14/2007 10:24:19 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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