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In China, Dubious Ways of Raising Fish
The Boston Globe ^ | July 8, 2007 | By Ariana Eunjung Cha (The Washington Post)

Posted on 07/14/2007 6:58:02 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL

WUGONG LAKE, China -- ......Zhu's fish farm, in a village on the lower reaches of the Yangtze River, sends 2.7 million catfish fillets each year to the United States through a Virginia importer. Despite his best efforts -- he has dozens of employees clearing trash from the water each day, and the fish are fed sacks of fish meal more expensive than rice -- Zhu's fish sometimes get sick. Then he brings out the drugs.

"It's standard practice," he said. "Everyone uses them to keep fish healthy."

Chinese exporters like him have seized much of the US market, accounting for 22 percent of all imports, because their fish are cheaper to raise.

The fish are being raised, however, in a country whose waterways are an ongoing problem, tainted by sewage, pesticides, heavy metals, and other pollutants. The situation is worse in the southern part of the country, where Zhu's farm is and where industrial runoff accumulates.......

......The competitors spike the water with banned substances to keep their farmed fish alive. Batches of seafood traded recently at the Shanghai fish market, for example, carried the tell-tale greenish tinge of malachite green, a disinfectant powder that has been banned in China because it is a suspected carcinogen but is still commonly used......

......Using illegal disinfectants and antibiotics "is a lazy way of raising fish," Zhu said. "But it is extremely effective."

Many of the "Southern-style" catfish fillets on US grocery shelves these days are indeed from the south -- of China.

The Chinese government's reports express alarm that many rivers in this region are so contaminated with heavy metals and pesticides, including DDT, that they are too dangerous to touch, much less raise fish in......

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; environment; foodsafety; foodsupply; madeinchina; poisonfood; trade

1 posted on 07/14/2007 6:58:03 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: JACKRUSSELL
Can someone tell me if the country of origin of food sold in the US has to be on the package you buy of that food?

Sometimes I can find it there--but sometimes I can't.

2 posted on 07/14/2007 7:03:06 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

if you knew what went into your american-produced hamburger and milk,

you’d puke!

antibiotics are no stranger here.


3 posted on 07/14/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
It will take public outrage to force our sneaky little DC politicians' hands on this. If they're letting poisoned food into our nation, it's just another case of them refusing to do their job, like immigration. Country of origin should be on every single label.

I suppose since we are diverting so much of our own corn to produce ethanol, the next mass import will be cheap poisoned corn from China.

4 posted on 07/14/2007 7:05:54 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: JACKRUSSELL
This comes as a timely article. My wife just bought a bunch of catfish fillets to fry tomorrow. No "location of origin" markings on the package.

I am getting tired of my government worrying more about Algore's global warming than it does the Chinese flooding the US market with poison goods.

5 posted on 07/14/2007 7:06:20 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: basil

I believe that all imported items must state the country of origin. That might not be true of ingredients, but it is true of something like fish.


6 posted on 07/14/2007 7:11:10 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: basil

I recently bought frozen orange roughy fillets from Kroger because my wife and I like it better than just about any other fish. I thought it came from Australia or New Zealand. But clearly on the label it says “product of China”. This worries me, but in a way, when you eat seafood, you take some risk. My local lake officially lists that if you eat fish from the lake once a week, you will probably be OK. My intake of fish from China is probably once a month. Is it full of antibiotics, heavy metals and bacteria? Possibly. Will I check the label the next time I buy fish? Definitely. But still, you pays your money and you takes your chances. I’m going to live to be a problem for my children no matter what, unless I wreck my motorcycle.


7 posted on 07/14/2007 8:07:11 PM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Compliments of the American Catfish Farmers Association /s


8 posted on 07/14/2007 8:10:48 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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9 posted on 07/14/2007 8:25:06 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Sounds to me like someone isn’t happy about Chinese catfish being sold in the U.S. I take these stories with a grain of salt.


10 posted on 07/14/2007 8:44:10 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
>>>Sounds to me like someone isn’t happy about Chinese catfish being sold in the U.S. I take these stories with a grain of salt.<<<

If the catfish have been raised on a diet of raw sewage, like was found for Chinese shrimp, the salt won't be enough to kill the bugs you'll be ingesting. But be my guest! They are your intestines!

11 posted on 07/14/2007 8:53:31 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: DCPatriot
"Psssssst ! DC ! Don't Eat The Fish ! It's Got Poo In It;0) Image and video hosting by TinyPic
12 posted on 07/14/2007 8:56:58 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: HardStarboard

Does that mean I get more for my money? Meat and shrimp at the same time. Yummy.


13 posted on 07/14/2007 8:59:02 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Sender

I was really ticked off when I bought frozen “Alaskan Salmon” from Albertson’s only to find tiny lettering stating “product of China.”

I’ve just about given up on fish. Those from Asian fish farms — not just Chinese—are raised in dreadful overcrowded water opaque with fish feces and the poor creatures are sick with all kinds of diseases and exotic parasites. If they don’t get antibiotics they can make you really sick with diseases we’ve never had here. Atlantic Salmon are being raised in the Pacific off Chile, some species of fish grown off the west coast of Mexico are plagued with Chinese fish parasites and diseases because that’s where the breeding stock came from. And water carries all those diseases to wild fish who have no natural immunity to fish diseases brought from other oceans. It’s a bloody mess.


14 posted on 07/14/2007 8:59:37 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: proxy_user
"I believe that all imported items must state the country of origin. That might not be true of ingredients, but it is true of something like fish."

Food-Origin Label Law Won't Start Until October, 2008. See this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1866110/posts

15 posted on 07/14/2007 9:24:15 PM PDT by Rabble
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To: JACKRUSSELL
Tom Sherman, vice president of marketing for Icelandic USA of Newport News, Va., which imports catfish from Zhu's farm through an exporter, said he was not aware that Chinese medicine was used in raising the fish the outfit brings to the United States.

Lying POS.

16 posted on 07/14/2007 9:54:55 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Hmmm...sounds like it’s about time to start buying fresh...from local butchers.


17 posted on 07/14/2007 10:34:40 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: JACKRUSSELL

From the article:

>>>Illegal substances such as malachite green keep showing up in Chinese seafood shipped to the United States, provoking a partial US ban on such shipments earlier this month. It was the latest development in an ongoing global awakening about the risks of Chinese-made products, from toys tainted with lead paint to pet-food ingredients containing a deadly industrial chemical.

Using illegal disinfectants and antibiotics “is a lazy way of raising fish,” Zhu said. “But it is extremely effective.”<<<<

This is flagged at Wiki requestion clean up. But still seems to be good info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite_green

Malachite green, also called aniline green, basic green 4, diamond green B, or victoria green B, IUPAC name:4-[(4-dimethylaminophenyl)-phenyl-methyl]-N,N-dimethyl-aniline is a toxic chemical primarily used as a dye. When diluted, it can be used as a topical antiseptic or to treat parasites, fungal infections, and bacterial infections in fish and fish eggs. It is also used as a bacteriological stain.

(snip)

Malachite green and its major metabolite, leuco-malachite green has been reported to have mutagenic and carcinogenic effects. Culp SJ in her recent article published in Mutation Research mentions that rats fed malachite green experience “a dose-related increase in liver DNA adducts” along with lung adenomas. Leuco-malachite green causes an “increase in the number and severity of changes”. As leuco-malachite green is the primary metabolite of malachite green and is retained in fish muscle much longer, most intake of malachite green would be in the leuco form. During the experiment, rats were fed up to 543 ppm of leuco-malachite green, an extreme amount compared to the average 5 ppb discovered in fish. After a period of two years, an increase in lung adenomas in male rats was discovered but no incidences of liver tumors. This shows that although adducts are formed, they have “little mutagenic or carcinogenic consequence.” Therefore it could be concluded that malachite green caused carcinogenic symptoms but a direct link between malachite green and liver tumor could not be proved.

(snip)


18 posted on 07/15/2007 4:25:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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bump


19 posted on 07/15/2007 4:25:48 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TNdandelion

You still have local butchers?

I’ve not seen when in years.

:(


20 posted on 07/15/2007 4:26:27 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; TNdandelion
Actually I do have a local butcher, right around the corner, and they try to use local-grown beef and poultry as much as possible.

The quality of their meat is usually much higher than that of the big grocery stores but also their prices are much higher. I shop there "when it's important", such as when company is coming, or when I have a monetary windfall. And yes, you can still tell them to cut you some Angus ribeyes 2 inches thick or whatever you want, and they carefully wrap it all in freezer paper for you...not that you'd actually freeze it ;)

21 posted on 07/15/2007 5:13:12 AM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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To: Veto!

Wow, it does sound bad for the current fish market. On the one hand, doctors tell us to eat more fish for the healthy benefits, but on the other hand...


22 posted on 07/15/2007 5:15:31 AM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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To: Sender

I miss having a local butcher. Yes, they were more expensive then a big grocery store; but the meat always tasted better.

Our old local butcher knew most of his customers. Definitely knew all his regular customers. And he learned their buying habits and would have items that were purchased routinely in stock.


23 posted on 07/15/2007 5:25:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

It not poisoned, dead fish! It "pining for fjords!"...lookie, we give you big discount...

24 posted on 07/15/2007 6:32:18 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Sender
On the one hand, doctors tell us to eat more fish for the healthy benefits, but on the other hand...

In one of Barry Sears' (The Zone Diet guy) books he says that doctors agree that we should be taking large amounts of fish oils for their Omega 3-6 benefits, but the docs don't ingest those oils because they're afraid of concentrated pollutants. Molecularly distilled fish oil from Arctic waters is your best bet, but it's horrendously expensive.

25 posted on 07/15/2007 11:04:27 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!
Krill or algea is the way to go. Cut out the fish completely.
Alternatively we should find ways to farm the stuff. I'd invest in it!
26 posted on 07/18/2007 1:19:36 AM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: basil
Can someone tell me if the country of origin of food sold in the US has to be on the package you buy of that food?

Right now, the only food that has to be labeled with country of origin is fish, but if it's processed in any way, (breaded, for instance), it doesn't have to be labeled.

Next year, the labeling should include perishable agricultural products (veggies and fruit), certain meats (not including poultry) and peanuts. If the meat, veggies or fruit are processed, or are included in a prepared food such as a frozen dinner, the COO doesn't have to be labeled.

The regs were passed as part of a farm bill in 2002, but the enforcement has been postponed twice by the current administration, and it could be postponed again by executive order.

27 posted on 07/18/2007 1:41:16 AM PDT by browardchad
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