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L.A. Archdiocese to Pay $600M to sex crime Victims
Associated Press ^ | July 15, 2007 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

Posted on 07/15/2007 4:43:11 AM PDT by Gurn

LOS ANGELES (AP) - The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles will settle its clergy abuse cases for at least $600 million, by far the largest payout in the church's sexual abuse scandal, The Associated Press learned Saturday.

Attorneys for the archdiocese and alleged victims are expected to announce the deal Monday, the day the first of more than 500 clergy abuse cases was scheduled for jury selection, according to two people with knowledge of the agreement. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because the settlement had not been made public.

The archdiocese and its insurers will pay between $600 million and $650 million to about 500 plaintiffs—an average of $1.2 to $1.3 million per person. The settlement also calls for the release of confidential priest personnel files after review by a judge assigned to oversee the litigation, the sources said.

It wasn't immediately clear how the payout would be split between the insurers, the archdiocese and several Roman Catholic religious orders. A judge must sign off on the agreement, and final details were being ironed out over the weekend.

Tod Tamberg, an archdiocese spokesman, did not immediately return a call for comment.

The settlement would be the largest ever by a Roman Catholic archdiocese since the clergy sexual abuse scandal erupted in Boston in 2002.

Among the largest total payouts was $100 million in 2004 by the Diocese of Orange, Calif., to settle 90 claims. The Diocese of Covington, Ky., last year agreed to pay $84 million for 552 cases. Facing a flood of abuse claims, five dioceses—Tucson, Ariz.; Spokane, Wash.; Portland, Ore.; Davenport, Iowa, and San Diego—sought bankruptcy protection.

Last month, the Archdiocese of Portland agreed to pay about $52 million to 175 victims, while setting aside another $20 million for anyone who comes forward in the future.

The Diocese of Spokane, Wash., also recently emerged from bankruptcy protection after agreeing to pay $48 million to settle about 150 claims.


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KEYWORDS: catholic; ephebophiles; gramsci; illegals; lawsuits; lawyers; losangeles; ogrady; oliverogrady; pedophiles; rogermahoney; rogermahony; sexcrimes
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The only surprising thing is that this diocese ponied up, and didn't file Chapter 11.
1 posted on 07/15/2007 4:43:12 AM PDT by Gurn
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To: Gurn

speechless.


2 posted on 07/15/2007 4:45:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
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To: Gurn

There may be more to this than meets the eye. Another generation and the Southwest diocese(s) will be subsumed under Mexico City again, as they were originally.


4 posted on 07/15/2007 5:08:00 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Outright theft.


5 posted on 07/15/2007 5:09:36 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

In most of the cases, I agree.


6 posted on 07/15/2007 5:21:21 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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To: Gurn
The National Education Association will settle its teacher abuse cases for at least $600 million, by far the largest payout in the NEA''s sexual abuse scandal, The Associated Press learned Saturday.

Alternate reality, I realize. But there are probably more 'isolated incidents' of NEA members abusing students than there are of Catholic Priests.
7 posted on 07/15/2007 5:24:06 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: NYer

FYI.


8 posted on 07/15/2007 6:11:26 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“Outright theft.”

Huh?? The only unresolved outrage is that the church hierarchy gets off scot free regarding CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY amongst the bishops. Decades, and perhaps centuries, of shuffling unreformed pedophiles from parish to parish on a global scale.


9 posted on 07/15/2007 7:09:30 AM PDT by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Chrust ... (I am Anti-Hillary))
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To: Gurn

Just about posted this. Glad I did a search.


10 posted on 07/15/2007 7:39:43 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Catholic Discussion Ping!

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Please post to this thread -- not the duplicate one on the Religion Forum. Perhaps we can then get this transferred to the Religion Forun.

11 posted on 07/15/2007 7:42:38 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Gurn

This diocese ponied up because Mahoney does not want his true level of involvement revealed. Los Angeles is barely recognizable as a Catholic Archdiocese due to Mahoney. This reflects on the cardinal, not the Church.


12 posted on 07/15/2007 7:44:42 AM PDT by McGarnickle
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To: AD from SpringBay

Absolutely more abuses in the public schools!


13 posted on 07/15/2007 7:46:56 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: McGarnickle

**This reflects on the cardinal, not the Church.**

This is so true.


14 posted on 07/15/2007 7:48:39 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Gurn

I wonder how many homeless could have been fed with that money. Throw in the cost of the taj Mahony and there’s over a BILLION dollars the LA Diocese has incurred in the name of “progressive” attitudes and liberalism.


15 posted on 07/15/2007 7:49:12 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Huh?


16 posted on 07/15/2007 8:07:23 AM PDT by tiki
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To: ElkGroveDan

And every Catholic gets slammed for it


17 posted on 07/15/2007 8:17:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
It is my thought that men not allowed to have wives and families look for other ways to satify their desires.

At one level you get aberrant sexual behavior and at another the desire to build monuments in stone and glass .The priests of the Israelites were not celibate and barred from marriage;there is no scriptural reason for the priests of the Church to be so. The men who run the Church will have much to beg mercy for from the One who established it.

18 posted on 07/15/2007 8:18:40 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

**It is my thought that men not allowed to have wives and families look for other ways to satify their desires.**

Think about this.

There are more incidencts of sexual abuse and molestation among teachers than among Catholic clergy.

You only hear about the Catholics because the media hates the Catholic Church.

Likewise they love the NEA and teachers and would never bring such a story out into the light of the people’s eyes through their media outlets.

Just think about it.


19 posted on 07/15/2007 8:23:55 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
There are more incidencts of sexual abuse and molestation among teachers than among Catholic clergy.

Well, duh, since there are 1000 teachers for every priest. But teachers aren't hired for being spiritually upstanding. You can make all the excuses you want, but at some point you have to admit the Catholic church has lost it's way. Most Catholics voted for Clinton. I'm happy to see the conservative Catholics on FreeRepublic, but the majority of Catholics are liberals.

20 posted on 07/15/2007 8:36:58 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: AD from SpringBay

I agree regarding the NEA vs the Church. However, there’s one big difference, according to media reports, at least. When teachers do it, it’s sex; with the Church it’s abuse. That tells the tale.


21 posted on 07/15/2007 8:55:38 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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To: aimhigh

“Well, duh, since there are 1000 teachers for every priest. But teachers aren’t hired for being spiritually upstanding. You can make all the excuses you want, but at some point you have to admit the Catholic church has lost it’s way. Most Catholics voted for Clinton. I’m happy to see the conservative Catholics on FreeRepublic, but the majority of Catholics are liberals.”

Yes. But we’re not talking about sheer numbers. The instances of abuse are far greater *per capita*. In fact, Public Education is much higher than society at large, which is higher per capita than clerical sexual abuse. As far as your comment about teachers not being hired to be spiritually upstanding, that cannot ever be true. We are entrusted with the children of other families just like a priest is. There is no excuse...none...for a teacher to sexually abuse a child. The fact that no one asks us if we are “moral” when we are hired is irrelevent.


22 posted on 07/15/2007 9:30:41 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: aimhigh

What I meant to say (and I’m not sure that I did it well), was that sexual abuse in the church -across all denominations - is lower (per capita) than society at large. And furthermore, society at large has a smaller level of sexual abuse per capita than public education (taken as an institution).


23 posted on 07/15/2007 9:53:13 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: hoosierham
It is my thought that men not allowed to have wives and families look for other ways to satisfy their desires.

The percentage of pedophiles among priests is no greater that other segments of society such as teachers, law enforcement or Protestant ministers for that matter.

Sinners are everywhere. Sinners will be the ones who "beg for mercy"

24 posted on 07/15/2007 10:20:07 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Gurn; Alex Murphy; xzins; P-Marlowe; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; ...

Ping for reading this afternoon.


25 posted on 07/15/2007 10:57:09 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I wonder how many homeless could have been fed with that money.

Well, lawyers have to eat too. Assuming pro bono fees of 30%, that will tide them over with a tidy $180,000,000.

26 posted on 07/15/2007 11:54:38 AM PDT by xJones
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To: hoosierham
It is my thought that men not allowed to have wives and families look for other ways to satify their desires.

What man desiring a wife goes into the Catholic priesthood to begin with ?

It's not as if he "discovers", after ordination, that he won't be allowed to have a wife, lover, etc.

.

27 posted on 07/15/2007 12:11:27 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Go Jorge Go ! And don't ever come back.)
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To: hoosierham

Yeah!

That protestant guy, Ted Haggard from Colorado. If only he was married then he wouldn’t have gone after that guy. Jimmy Swaggart, too, if only he was married; and Jim Baker....

OH! they were ALL married????


28 posted on 07/15/2007 12:47:37 PM PDT by It's me
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To: Gurn

This really makes me feel good when I put the envelope in the basket at church.


29 posted on 07/15/2007 12:49:20 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: Gurn
Am I too late to get in on this?

I think I might have been touched improperly once as an altar boy.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

30 posted on 07/15/2007 12:51:14 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: AD from SpringBay
I think that you are correct.

I haven't done it in a while, but just go to "Google News" and do a search for "teacher arrested."

It seems that teacher abuses occur all the time, but for some unknown reason (sarc) they only make local news.
31 posted on 07/15/2007 12:54:19 PM PDT by Nick_123
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To: Gurn
The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles will settle its clergy abuse cases for at least $600 million, by far the largest payout in the church's sexual abuse scandal, The Associated Press learned Saturday.

A thoughtful reminder as to what to place in the dish during mass.

No matter what you do it's going to cost you to attorneys and government.

32 posted on 07/15/2007 1:02:13 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AngrySpud
Decades, and perhaps centuries, of shuffling unreformed pedophiles from parish to parish on a global scale.

Thanks, now I know what hyperbole means!

33 posted on 07/15/2007 1:29:04 PM PDT by CatQuilt (Free the TLM (in the Archdiocese of Boston)!)
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To: Salvation

Strange that money can make the participants feel better.


34 posted on 07/15/2007 1:30:46 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Outright theft.

Obviously nothing ever happened. This is just a nusiance value settlement. If anything had really happened, if priests had REALLY molested children, then I bet the settlement would have been something like $665,000,000 instead of a paltry $660,000,000.

How about the theft of innocence? What is that worth?

35 posted on 07/15/2007 3:42:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Gurn

I think it is very possible in a majority of these cases nothing “happened.”


36 posted on 07/15/2007 4:22:48 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Gurn
LA Cardinal Apologizes to Plaintiffs
37 posted on 07/15/2007 4:37:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Catholic Discussion Ping!

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38 posted on 07/15/2007 4:39:36 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**I think it is very possible in a majority of these cases nothing “happened.”**

Definitely true in many cases. I know of at least two in mine. (Priests I know persoanlly, no less!)


39 posted on 07/15/2007 4:47:51 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Two falsely accused?


40 posted on 07/15/2007 4:51:59 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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Yes, two falsely accused. One is totally cleared, the other is in the civil process at this time, and that is all I can say right now.


41 posted on 07/15/2007 5:23:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Gurn; NYer; doug from upland; Calpernia; tutstar; WKB; cgk; Southack; Congressman Billybob

This is the wrong kind of CAPITAL punishment.

This doesn’t hurt the perpetrators, only the loyal congregants.

And the attorneys get a huge cut of this bonanza.


42 posted on 07/15/2007 6:06:47 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: netmilsmom

And every Catholic gets slammed for it


That’s the goal of homosexuals and leftists being led to infiltrate the Church.


43 posted on 07/15/2007 6:18:06 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: hoosierham

If you weren’t allowed to marry or otherwise satisfy your urges, would you resort to molesting children or engage in a homosexual relationship?

If your answer is no, then why are you using that line of reasoning with this matter?


44 posted on 07/15/2007 6:25:04 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Indeed.

Sex abuse by public school teachers is much higher per capita than by any priest/pastor/deacon in any confession.

But there are no ways to track it in public schools. There was a teacher that was having an affair with a student at my old high school, and when he was caught he just jumped the border to another state and the records didn’t follow him.

He has done that at least twice since then, but by law the local school boards can’t reveal his record to the new school.

45 posted on 07/15/2007 6:35:27 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gurn

They sent one of the worst to the small town where I grew up (San Andreas, CA) to “get him out of the way”. Thank God I was Protestant during my youth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_O%27Grady
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Cardinal_Mahony


46 posted on 07/15/2007 6:56:40 PM PDT by Drago
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ever watch that to catch a predator on dateline? Many different men from all walks of life and career. But with the latest child murder, that little 12 year old girl who was kidnapped and taken away in a gray van by a child molester,when will the American people take a stand to fight for the protection of our children. If only our emotions could go the way of how we fought against illegal immigration reform.


47 posted on 07/15/2007 7:41:16 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: kenth
Priests ( and teachers and Protestant ministers) are all authority figures who can "get away" with behavior that would be questioned in other jobs. Priests are able to grant absolution for sins by the fact of their ordination SO those who do abuse can both intimidate and grant forgiveness in ways no other can. That helps them hide. I don't know what the situation is now but when I attended Catholic grade school there were those who strongly promoted the calling and signs of being called to boys who were too young to have any notion of what they might want to do in life much less byet be interested in girls. There was a little too much indoctrination too early.Public schools now indoctrinate children too young to understand into the gaia,enviro-radical,politically correct toleration of homosexuality and socialism. Neither scenario is what should be.

ANd I expect that a lot of ALL abuse cases settled for money are more about the money than the abuse.

48 posted on 07/15/2007 7:42:43 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: red irish

Amen.


49 posted on 07/15/2007 7:43:26 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Gurn

Don’t you just love tithing to a church that will use it to pay off Sex Offense fines?


50 posted on 07/15/2007 7:44:46 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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