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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 15 July 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 15 July 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/15/2007 5:09:33 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: kabar
I understand your strategy about running Webb as a pubbie but wouldn't we have all been better off if George Allen had just grown a set and told everyone to go to hell when his macaca comments rose from no where? He went Lott/Imus on us.

My theory is that the dems are a lot like terror types you can't really talk to them but have to stand up to them. That's all they understand.

Once you start apologizing they see it as weakness and move in for the kill.

361 posted on 07/16/2007 4:49:22 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
I contributed multiple times to Allen and voted for him, but he ran a poor campaign beyond the macaca remark that was exploited daily for many weeks by the WP. Allen did not do enough to identify the policy differences between himself and Webb. Late in his campaign, Allen attacked something that was in a Webb novel. And despite all of that he almost won.

Webb was an inspired choice by the Dems. A legitimate war hero and SECNAV under Reagan, Webb had a broad appeal in a still conservative state that is starting to trend Dem [NoVA]. Webb did especially well among the military retirees and active duty in the Norfolk and Virginia Beach areas, usually strong Rep. The fact that Webb had a son going to Iraq also played well.

The bottom line is a combination of Allen gaffes and a strong Dem candidate spelled a victory for Webb. It is also interesting to note that the WP endorsed Webb's opponent in the primary.

362 posted on 07/16/2007 5:30:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Thanks,great analysis. I didn’t know at least half of what you said. Makes more sense now.
363 posted on 07/16/2007 7:54:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Well sad to say there were even Freepers who bought the “Webb is a patriot and former Military we can work with him” and actively campaigned for Webb against Allen. Freeper named Meandog use to post an anti Allen hit piece every day during the 2006 campaign"

Right...Webb is such an idiot for daring to challenge that beloved FR figure, S.C. Sen. Lindsey Graham. < /sarc >

364 posted on 07/16/2007 8:07:47 AM PDT by meandog (If Hillary becomes president, remember to thank George Bush because he caused it!)
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To: Bahbah

If Brit retires maybe he will still work one day a week. Sunday.


365 posted on 07/17/2007 8:09:56 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Congress "Go Home Now")
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To: snugs; All
Now it’s time for the honorable mentions as we lead into the top ten posters for the thread.(this is my second start,a power surge killed everything—dems at work)hahahahaha.

CDB—#265—**Two parallel universes at work, reel one—Michael Yon—others,DBM/msm—made up/ biased—excellent post.

Chuck54—#12*-Sen Lamar=Lugar 194-*—Hot air link.

Crawdad—tv surrenders up the war

fawn—115

GeorgeWBush—#32—*-we have to kill 10:1 just to keep up

Clairesolt—217—* 1/2—GW solves problems

evad#304—8 1/2—Americans don’t have the stomach for a pc war—very perceptive—good post.

Casino66—*-Bill Roggio link,303 Allegra on msm?317—*-Britt needs to replace fat tim

govtbeancounter —316—* 1/2—put captured Iraqi documents on the internet—good idea,350—* 1/2—has Webb crossed the line between brilliance and insanity? Great question.

H.Akston—85-*-has AQ shrunk here?#94-*-too much hate makes you blind.

G.larry-*—Britt Hume levels playing field

Holden—**—286—Great analysis of msm/money/vote buying—must read here.

JeffChandler—#306-*-W’s war record is good.

Patriotspride—*—Don’t forget the double standard between GW and Bubba.

nautinurse—#163*—Webb gone off the deep end—Lindsay Graham did a great job.

Roccus-#146—*—the guy with the big gun wins

Rmgatto—116—*1/2—Wallace is a stepford host—really good here.

Now for the coveted top ten.

366 posted on 07/20/2007 4:12:08 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: snugs; All
Here’s more of the top ten:

#10—bernard—#105-—8-dems need to adopt an Iraqi family to find out about violence(Freeper wisdom)236—*1/2—Dems don’t want to run the war—just complain.

#10—Busterbear #238—*—anti Semites had a similar smirk when attacking jews,259-*-FNC getting screwed by adv.#327-*-logic won’t cut it with dems.

#10—rightinvirginia—363-*1/2—carl levin—Ben Franklin impersonator,(hilarious)no progress shortfalls of Iraqi govt.,pot meets kettle—65-*-Britt Hume “do you think AQ gives a fig about political changes in Iraq,or oil sharing bill, if passes would AQ go away?”—(darn britt always asks those annoying hard to answer questions the msm “forgets” to ask)368-*-how many troops do we need— Levin(hasn’t been determined yet)lame dems# 82—*—dems pull numbers from the air.

#10—the robb7#11—**—How do you negotiate with people who want you dead? #25—*—link on Robb steppping down,

#10—jerseydvl—348—*1/2—Webb is angry, Graham made him stupid, 382-*-Webb is an A-hole(don’t hold back)

#10—mainepatsfan—# 69—*-Goebbels would have been thrilled with our media,73,164-*—new osamma tape, 167-*-webb has tunnel vision.

#10--Phsstpok—#230—**—Lamar analysis of how and why he is changing jobs—excellent—343—**—Great Iraq war analysis—”P” is under the weather with his eye, we all hope he gets better—brilliant mind here.

#10--Starwise—#267—**—Black Five,Mike Yon, 600 troops re-enlist—(only the good stuff from the Star),309-*-VC did not come to us,#340—*1/2—No analogies between the jihadis and the viet cong.(she is always a a star)

Let’s take a break and do more top ten.

367 posted on 07/20/2007 4:49:27 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: snugs; All
More:

#9—maica—#90-*-GW message not getting out,#102—DBM willing accomplices of the DNC,#119—*-Juan is a sponge for DBM/DNC talking points, #141—*1/2—war coverage has been buried since the start, 323-*-Hadley ate Stephy for lunch,325-*-brain analysis,337—*1/2—media take on tet offensive.

#8—snugs—#155—* 1/2—Politicians crave popularity,GW is relentless regardless of polls—156,—186—**—excellent analysis(special award)of new prime minister Brown,254—* 1/2—Americans like quick easy solutions.(it’s amazing how we can have countering advocacy of the same topic(tenacity of Americans) in the same thread and both posters be correct. But, it happens. Later, another poster points out the “long term tenacity” of Americans,yet we know snugs comment has so much validity.)Only on FR—Great day snugs—(be sure and catch her daily dose of the Presidents/adm. events)—priceless stuff.

#8—aliveritas—#166,#177-*-US uncovers 50 Iranian rocket launchers buried in Iraq—185—*—suicide bomber profile,#—188-*1/2—excellent progress in Iraq video, 192*—shadow party link,195—*-Iraqi govt. meets more benchmarks than US,197,208-*-jihadi link.
She remains the Queen of the links.

#7—AlasBabylon—#34—**1/2(highest post on the thread)—dems are superficial,they are about emotions,DBM colludes with dems night after night to do a biased poll proving Americans are all against the war-brilliant post here—must read,52*1/2—locals graduate to power,feminists stuck in burkas,60, 83-*-Graham strong on war,324*1/2—Great WWII Truman take, 333—*-336*1/2—kabar rebuke,very good!!
Terrific week for our tireless thread provider—thanks again AB!!

#6—Laverne—#76-*—glass is half full,103—*could juan get any dumber,122*—dems and poodles in the dbm will spin any Iraq success to defeat,126—*—howie— media not opposed to war,just skeptical(yeah right)#134—* 1/2—reliable sources—hardly reliable, panel is absurd, 143-*-howie a joke, 173-*1/2—activism—emails Schumer.
Great day for Laverne.

#5—morganindenver—#130—**—Rush is right dems will have us remain in Iraq,its all about money, power, dems will do anything—158-*—polls don’t distinguish everything, 176*—dems want a repeat of viet nam, #189*1/2—dems would turn Iran over to justice to prosecute if they nuke Israel,#199—*1/2—NK another GW victory ignored by msm.
Making the difficult seem easy, he’s back for the day.

#5--anita—--;#7**—meeting at White House link, GW will veto any attempt to halt the war, 14—*-Kristol take, #16—alexander to be univ pres.20*—GW has firewall strategy for Iraq—27*—WH press corpse is almost dead-62-**1/2—Media nuggets—one of her all time best,must read, wealth of info here.,96,108,121,-*-GW/powell leak?266-*-House lost 10 dems.
Another stellar day for Anita. Her media nugggets have become a standard not only here but on much of the webb and just get better every week.

#4—Bray—#159—*1/2—We have won the war and now the peace, 179—*1/2—Iraqi congress more refined than ours, GW taking fire from front and back,193**—tet offensive reported only by Kronkite—today we have the web,net, talk radio 200—*1/2—donks could lose big if surge works,216—*1/2-surge is dems worst nightmare,262,305,359,360-*-Graham kicked Webb like a rented mule.
It was Bray’s day to shine and he did, with great comments everywhere.

#4—Bahbah—#29*—loonies out on c-span—we need fairness doctrine—#40,Webb uses Biden technique,#43*#54*—tim whines, Graham advocates surge, congress is the problem, #59—*—russert—it’s a civl war—not AQ,64-*,70-*,Webb vs. Graham,78-*-86—*-mccain is over,89,97*1/2—libs on mtp gunning for Rudy,107—88—how dumb can juan get— he credits N korea and china not us for NK victory,144*,232*1/2—great steffie analysis,346*1/2—surge=sunburst,will Iraqis come together,327-*-
A fantastic Freeper and brilliant mind has another good day.

368 posted on 07/20/2007 5:38:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

Top three tonight.


369 posted on 07/20/2007 5:38:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: snugs; All
And now for the coveted top three.

This week they are pretty much interchangeable with a slight edge to the top poster who really did an outstanding job. Here they are:

#3-TXRadioguy-#95—*1/2—Why are surrendercats so invested in the success of terrorists and defeat of our soldiers,#110—**—DC old boys club needs to learn to count votes,they hammer at issues forever,just like insurgents,118—*1/2—dems will never admit success in Iraq they are too invested in failure,act as if they will pull us out no matter what,#133-**—plan is to get us out of Iraq then Afghanistan,142-*1/2-this crop of dems would spit in the face of the Truman Doctrine and sympathize with commies more than us,157*,162,*-204—*1/2,212,226-*dems window of opportunity is closing,235*-—great link border fence,249-**-what FR does by revealing hidden motives,exposing hidden agendas—must read,281,293*-step up.
Having been there obviously makes a difference and TXradioguy was “there”(Iraq) and is definitely not taking any crap from the libs, he knows when they are off base or way off base,since all they do is try and steal.
Great day for TXradioguy.

#2—MNJohnnie—#13—*1/2—vets for freedom link—all Sunday shows are the same scripted,#15-*-The “defeat now dems” don’t have the votes,22-*1/2—GW should meet with more conservatives,his message is deleted by the msm, 23,44-*-Va voters are pissed with webb,#53*1/2—DC media won’t repeat atrocities happening in Iraq, but make frequent accusations against our military,#56—*-pc media manage news to fit political dogmas, 367,84,87*,webb is a slime dog lies to fit his agenda,120*,190—**—We have no great intellectuals in America politics,only a circle of empty headed fools,213-*1/2,220—*—pc media link,240,242,244,248*1/2—vets for freedom,250,255*1/256*,2260—*—dems count on terrorist allies for something they will not get,272,283,291*,295,299—**—Iraq is not Vietnam, Redux,332,

When MNJ is “on” he is as good as there is, especially when it comes to the defense of the country and our fighting men and figuring out the dems next move.

#1--kabar—#93-*1/2—Graham rescues his political future after the immigration debacle, excellent post,106,117-*1/2—don’t make a target for AQ out of Petraeus report—great in-depth thought here,151-*-Dems only want to intervene when nothing is at stake,170—**—Kronkite declared war lost rest is history, dems/msm too invested in defeat Petraeus report will be irrelevant, minds are made up,209-*1/2—tet offensive was told by all 3 msm,223—**—great analysis— enemy and the dems use our timetable to their advantage,233,247,—**—political reality is that the enemy uses the msm better than us—brilliant,271,284,301,—*—surge take,307—**—msm congress learned wrong lessons from Viet Nam,311—**—great WWII history lesson well done, 315,329,**—we don’t tire easily,45 years to win the cold war,334*,347—**—expose of communism vs. islamic fundamentalism, 349,350,362—**—excellent take on how webb beat Allen in Va. must read.

Well you get it,Sunday Kabar really was in a league of his own, never have I seen so many double star posts, which are tough to get, he was just right there with all the right answers to all the toughest of questions.

Congrats to all who participated in the Sunday thread and here’s hoping we have another stellar performance this Sunday.

370 posted on 07/20/2007 4:28:53 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911; Kaslin; silent_jonny; Wolfstar; GretchenM
Thanks for my special award and also plug for the Day in the life thread but I must also mention that it is not just me that does that thread.

Thanks also to Kaslin, silent_jonny and wolfstar and of course GretchenM who keeps the ping list and us in Order:o).

371 posted on 07/22/2007 4:09:23 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: rodguy911; kabar; MNJohnnie; txradioguy; Alas Babylon!
Thanks for doing the awards rod and congratulations to the winners - I will post the special awards in a few minutes.


372 posted on 07/22/2007 4:25:04 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Alas Babylon!; rodguy911
Special award from rodguy911 - congratulations


373 posted on 07/22/2007 4:26:34 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: anita; rodguy911
Special award from rodguy911 - congratulations


374 posted on 07/22/2007 4:27:39 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: snugs; rodguy911
Special award from rodguy - not sure whether I should say congratulations on this one :0)


375 posted on 07/22/2007 4:28:59 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: kabar
Special award from rodguy911 - congratulations


376 posted on 07/22/2007 4:29:58 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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