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The cry should go up in Europe: more babies, please
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2067023.ece ^ | Melanie McDonaghon

Posted on 07/15/2007 9:22:26 AM PDT by marthemaria

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1 posted on 07/15/2007 9:22:29 AM PDT by marthemaria
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To: marthemaria

the euros have forgotten which part is supposed to go where


2 posted on 07/15/2007 9:24:00 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

This is the fruit of secular humanism, ye old europe is demographic trouble, 1 child, maybe two, that’s it.

The Muslims have no such resrtaints, and their demographic time is coming if things continue the way they are going it won’t be long until we see

“Adbul Coetzer PM of Germany”

Secular Humanism is poision to a society, one that gets consumed with glee in Euroland, and that is a shame.


3 posted on 07/15/2007 9:30:10 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
The cry should go up in Europe;more babies,please.

Good news for the followers of the Religion of Pieces.They’ve been popping out babies like crazy all over Europe and before long the cry “allah akbar” will ring from every street corner and every “islamic center” from London to Helsinki to Naples.

4 posted on 07/15/2007 9:30:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I wonder how many of that 1.37 child per family statistic are Muslims. What would it be if they weren’t included? You never see the environmentalists protesting against illegal immigration. They just don’t want more white people.


5 posted on 07/15/2007 9:35:46 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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6 posted on 07/15/2007 9:36:05 AM PDT by Allegra (Carbon offsets for sale. Inquire within.)
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To: marthemaria

Is there a shortage of people anywhere? There are twice as many as there were fifty years ago and that seemed like it was fairly crowded. Even this town has doubled, doubled, and doubled again in that time.


7 posted on 07/15/2007 9:38:39 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: rbg81
They just don’t want more white people.

Bingo.

8 posted on 07/15/2007 9:44:57 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: marthemaria
On the contrary: as seen from the dinner party circuit, the real crisis is the difficulty for female graduates in getting anyone to breed with. Forty per cent of women graduates don’t have a single baby at the age of 35.

A part of this is due to men being afraid to breed, since so many marriages end with Child Support and Alimony.

Add to that these perceptions I have been noticing lately on TV:

Fathers are useless laughable dolts and buffoons.

On commercials ALL Alzheimer's patients are men.

No one needs men. "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle", etc.

OK, that was the culture that was introduced. Now live with it.

9 posted on 07/15/2007 9:47:54 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: marthemaria

Simple choice really, parent or dinosaur.


10 posted on 07/15/2007 9:51:25 AM PDT by live+let_live ("God is a mathematician with an eye for art.")
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To: marthemaria
Britain’s birthrate, growing at its fastest for nearly 30 years – at 1.87 children per couple – is, says the author of its report, Professor John Guillebaud, an environmental liability. “Each new UK birth, through the inevitable resource consumption and pollution that UK affluence generates, is responsible for about 160 times as much climate-related environmental damage as a new birth in Ethiopia.”

Oh, brother...here's pseudo-science at its best. More environmental BS suggesting that we should go back to living in mud huts or at least feel guilty that we don't. Prof. John is missing the real issue:

Forty per cent of women graduates don’t have a single baby at the age of 35.

It is the uneducated who are propagating at a rate far in excess of the educated population. In the old days of the agrarian economy, children were an investment that raised family productivity. Today, children are a (very expensive) consumption item. It's not by accident that some of the highest birth rates are associated with the lowest educational rates.

11 posted on 07/15/2007 9:52:36 AM PDT by econjack
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To: marthemaria

They should be required to purchase a child credit first. Pay someone in Africa not to have a baby.


12 posted on 07/15/2007 10:13:32 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Fitzcarraldo
"I do hope you are pregnant dear. I wouldn't want to have to got through that again..."
13 posted on 07/15/2007 10:22:32 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: Brilliant

Don’t let Al Gore hear you,he might base his next scam on your idea.


14 posted on 07/15/2007 10:34:45 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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To: marthemaria

Excerpt from ths site

http://www.iccv.ro/romana/conf/conf.sibiu.2003/pdf/17.%20Raluca%20Popescu.pdf

“The average fertility rate in the EU reached a post-war high in the middle of the ‘60s (about 2.75 children per woman), falling sharply until the end of the ‘70s and then engaging into a more gradual decline until the mid ‘90s. The lowest level was reached in 1995 (1.42), climbing again
slightly to settle at about 1.45 children per woman. In 2000, the figure increased to 1.53, the highest for the last 10 years.

Although the trends observed have generally been convergent, important variations can be noted. Countries that had the highest fertility rates at the beginning of the ‘80s (southern countries and (Ireland) recorded the biggest reduction (more than 30%), having in present the lowest fertility rates (Spain – 1.22, Italy – 1.25, Greece – 1.30). The highest figure occurs in Ireland and France (1.89) followed by Luxembourg, Denmark, Finland and Netherlands (between 1.72 and 1.78).”


15 posted on 07/15/2007 10:44:31 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: marthemaria

i think that white guilt has manifested itself in a lack of will to reproduce. maybe we feel we don’t deserve to exist?

after all the muslims and latinos have so much more to offer.

not being racist here, just stating the multicultural beliefs.


16 posted on 07/15/2007 10:52:18 AM PDT by television is just wrong (If being against illegal immigration is racist, so be it.)
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17 posted on 07/15/2007 10:54:18 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: econjack

Recommend that you see the “IDIOCRACY” DVD: it shows the future of the U.S. where moron voters elect bodybuilder politicians who like to show off their steroid enhanced muscles. If you live in California, don’t bother watching the movie - the future has already arrived here.


18 posted on 07/15/2007 11:07:05 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (i)
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European Culture is committing suicide. It will become Arabia within 50 years. Europeans don’t want their culture to survive. This is the Fruits of Feminism. You can thank the Left who also have fewer children than Conservatives in the US. Can you say Allah Akbar? Better visit Europe before it becomes Eurabia and Spain is renamed with its Moorish name.


19 posted on 07/15/2007 11:13:52 AM PDT by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: RightWhale

Is there a shortage of people anywhere? There are twice as many as there were fifty years ago and ....

Were you asleep during the immigration debate?

The forces that support illegal immigration’s talking point is that there is a labor SHORTAGE that needs to be addressed by immigration. An associated arguement was that our Social Security system is going broke because of a SHORTAGE of contributors.

In Europe there are cities that are having problems maintaining their sewer systems that were designed for larger populations.

When someone says “ageing population” you need to hear “SHORTAGE” of young people.

Russia
http://www.usd.edu/~clehmann/pop_prob/russia/aging_population.shtml

Japan
http://www.stat.go.jp/English/data/handbook/c02cont.htm

Italy
http://www.oecdobserver.org/news/fullstory.php/aid/1081/Population_ageing:_Facing_the_challenge.html

C’mon whale man get in touch with a science called Demographics.


20 posted on 07/15/2007 11:24:39 AM PDT by sgtyork (Liberalism worthy of the name emphasizes freedom of the individual, democracy and the rule of law.)
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