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It was 28 years ago today, Jimmy Carter talked about "malaise"...with 1980 electoral map
www2.volstate.edu ^ | July 15, 1979

Posted on 07/15/2007 4:11:42 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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1 posted on 07/15/2007 4:11:49 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

New York, Illinois, and California all going GOP. *Sigh*

Those were the days.


2 posted on 07/15/2007 4:13:56 PM PDT by Perdogg (Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Contrast this speech codifying defeat with what Carter’s successor had to say less than two years later.

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reagan/speeches/first.asp


3 posted on 07/15/2007 4:14:50 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Perdogg

New York, Illinois, and California all going GOP. *Sigh*

Those were the days.


Those states didn’t vote FOR President Reagan. They voted AGAINST President Carter.


4 posted on 07/15/2007 4:23:21 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Perdogg
>>>>>New York, Illinois, and California all going GOP.

Wrong again. New York, Illinois, and California all going for Reagan!

And you posting that you'd vote for a liberal like Giuliani isn't gonna help the GOP regain power and advance conservatism.

5 posted on 07/15/2007 4:24:41 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Perdogg

If they would STOP screwing with the base of the Party, and listen to us and follow our directions which the great majority of us assert, why then a lot of those states would come back and would be in the Red State column.


6 posted on 07/15/2007 4:26:29 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Sad so many members of the World's Policeman--our fellow Americans--know little about their "beat")
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To: Perdogg

Yeah, and the flipside of that is that Carter still got his best vote totals in the South. Carter only lost the region in 1980 because he got outvoted in the metropolitan areas. Look at a county map from 1980 and you’ll see I’m right.


7 posted on 07/15/2007 4:29:16 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: InvisibleChurch
It was 20 years ago today
Sargent Carter brought jihad to stay
He's been going in and out of style
But he's hated jews all the while
So let me intoduce to you
The one and only jihad James
In Sargent Carter's lonely terrorist club Baaaaaaaaand.
8 posted on 07/15/2007 4:30:26 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: abb

I always say Jimmy Carter is the reason I’m on the right. We are not losers! thank you jimmy


9 posted on 07/15/2007 4:32:04 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Grizzled Bear

1984 is here:

http://fisher.lib.virginia.edu/collections/stats/elections/maps/1984ec.gif

against mondale/ferarro?


10 posted on 07/15/2007 4:35:36 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: InvisibleChurch

Loser president from the party of losers.


11 posted on 07/15/2007 4:36:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Rusty0604

I hate that worthless little self-absorbed peanut farmer with the Chiclet grin and the Nazi attitude!

):^(


12 posted on 07/15/2007 4:39:06 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: InvisibleChurch

Theres something else DC has failed us on.
We are still held hostage to oil.
We need to move the capital to a army base in the middle of Nebraska. DC can become a tourist attraction.
Make all the congresspeople live in sparse furnishings untill they get congress adjurned and go back home.
6 years is all they get and no generous pension of 150,000 plus.Make the Presidency one 6 year term.


13 posted on 07/15/2007 4:44:34 PM PDT by winodog
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To: InvisibleChurch

One of Carter’s lines in the peroration jumped off the page:

“Whenever you have a chance, say something good about our country.”

Does the man ever read his own speeches?


14 posted on 07/15/2007 4:52:58 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

As a 13 year old in 1979, one thing I remember clearly was the replacement of the lights on the Christmas Tree in Rockefeller Center in New York with reflectors. I had gone with my mother to the lighting of the tree several times as a kid but we didn’t go for the “unveiling” that year.

I already knew from the news that things were downcast in the nation and the world and that my father was fortunate to have purchased the house before the “misery index” really kicked in. But no lights on the tree, in New York City, well, that just seemed ridiculous to me.

When Ronald Reagan came to office I didn’t have to hear the news, I could see how upbeat everyone had become. Heck, Reagan even won Hudson County in New Jersey!


15 posted on 07/15/2007 4:58:37 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

i did a word search and danged if i could find the words

nuclear/refinery/oil: new exploration

in all of jimmyland there....

did anybody else find any of these words in his plan?


16 posted on 07/15/2007 5:01:06 PM PDT by flat
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To: InvisibleChurch
And this from a young Chicano: "Some of us have suffered from recession all our lives."

Chicano? Is that someone from Chicago?

17 posted on 07/15/2007 5:02:24 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Don’t get me wrong! Thank God Ronald Reagan was elected!

I think the nation was in “Anyone but Jimmy” mode in 1980 (that’s the date on the map).

The voters actually voted for President Reagan in 84.


18 posted on 07/15/2007 5:04:56 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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19 posted on 07/15/2007 5:06:59 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I was a newlywed...starting out with an 16 % mortgage thanks to this goofy idiot...I remember old people lining up to seel their silver dollars for $18 a pop. The worst president in my life for sure....probably the worst president of all time.

People forget, but a Hillary presidency will be even worse....

nick


20 posted on 07/15/2007 5:08:42 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Perdogg
New York, Illinois, and California all going GOP. *Sigh*

And Massachusetts!!

21 posted on 07/15/2007 5:14:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: InvisibleChurch

CARTER is the malaise.


22 posted on 07/15/2007 5:15:49 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
1980 ~ jimmah carter’s malaise.....

the reason for me to become a conservative embracing the values and principles of Ronald Reagan and never ever looking back!!!

23 posted on 07/15/2007 5:22:09 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: nikos1121

Actually, bad as Hillary would be, I don’t think she could top Jimmy Carter in sheer cluelessness. He is, and always will be, the Worst President Ever.


24 posted on 07/15/2007 5:25:53 PM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I know John Anderson took votes away from Carter in NY. But California was Reagan Country.

Ford actually won California in 1976 49.35% to 47.57%.

In 1980 Reagan got 52.69% of the vote. Carter only got 35.91% and John Anderson got 8.62% of the vote.

Now Californians would vote for an ass if it had a “D” beside it.

Ford took Illinois 50.10% to 48.13% in 1976. Reagan took it 49.65% with Carter getting 41.72% and Anderson 7.30%.

In 1984 Reagan won Illinois by 12.5% and California by 16.0%.


25 posted on 07/15/2007 5:26:21 PM PDT by Perdogg (Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Traditionally Republicans are in blue, the international color of conservatives, Democrats/socialists/communists are in red. I prefer this map myself, though they are really hard to find these days. Democrats and the leftist MSM realized red was too close to home so messed with the colors. It's quite amazing how almost all maps were redone to favor the socialists. Blue has positive connotations of being the color of loyalty, faithfulness, honor, and the Democrats very successfully hijacked it in America, yet blue is still conservative in the rest of the world.


26 posted on 07/15/2007 5:37:10 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Perdogg
California used to be reliable electorally until 1992. In fact, a Republican won California in 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984 and 1988. In 1992, Perot took votes from GHWB, giving the state to Clinton. So that loss was understandable.

But what happened after 1992 that put California solidly in the Democratic column?

27 posted on 07/15/2007 5:43:00 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: headsonpikes

The other clause that jumped off the page to me was “...who feels your pain...” Just a little bit of foreboding for 1992.

Good Lord, I hate Dems who profess to “feel my pain”. I guess that means all of them.


28 posted on 07/15/2007 5:44:49 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Reeses

>>>>”Democrats and the leftist MSM realized red was too close to home so messed with the colors. It’s quite amazing how almost all maps were redone to favor the socialists”<<<<<

That is how they “Manage” information these days, Talk Radio can’t control colors... they can.

TT


29 posted on 07/15/2007 5:45:30 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

>>>>I hate Dems who profess to “feel my pain”<<<<<

Not me! I’m on Offense! They are the surrender Monkeys, I’m proud of the Pain that they feel, I plan to continue inflicting as much as I can as long as I can whether they feel it or not.

TT


30 posted on 07/15/2007 5:49:21 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

>>>>”But what happened after 1992 that put California solidly in the Democratic column?”<<<<<

Tax and Regulation chased the base to friendlier turf, they moved.

TT


31 posted on 07/15/2007 5:51:52 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: nyyankeefan
Me too.

Jimmuh identified the problem at that time, but hadn't a clue that (a) he was a major cause, and (b) leadership is not wringing your hands and whining, but inspiring your people with optimism and positive speeches.

32 posted on 07/15/2007 5:52:11 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: InvisibleChurch

most of the presidents in my lifetime have been

duds.


33 posted on 07/15/2007 5:52:49 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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34 posted on 07/15/2007 5:56:00 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Perdogg

Now Californians would vote for an ass if it had a “D” beside it.


California went for Kerry, right?

;-)


35 posted on 07/15/2007 5:57:57 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ken21

>>>>”most of the presidents in my lifetime have been

duds”<<<<<

On the bright side, One Good One can change the History of the World and we just happen to be the Nation that has done it, over and over again.

Dry spells suck but hey to quote Gump “it happens”

TT


36 posted on 07/15/2007 5:59:33 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Where does the word ‘malaise’ appear in the speech?


37 posted on 07/15/2007 6:02:16 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: TexasTransplant
Here's the revisionist MSM version updated at Wikipedia. Someone downloaded it, switched the colors, then re-uploaded it. The google cache of it still has the correct colors though.


38 posted on 07/15/2007 6:04:25 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Demographic shift from south of the border to north.


39 posted on 07/15/2007 6:04:40 PM PDT by Perdogg (Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
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To: TexasTransplant

I remember a magazine cover once when Jimmy Carter was running for president that showed Carter with his two upper front teeth missing when he was governor of Georgia. He since had false teeth put in but it permanently affected Carter’s speech, which he why he sounds funny talking. For the life of me I can’t find that picture anywhere. It’s pretty hilarious. It’s amazing how it went from a national magazine cover picture to being totally eliminated everywhere. I don’t believe photos of the toothless Carter exist anywhere anymore. The photos were completely destroyed. It’s another demonstration of the power of the leftist MSM!


40 posted on 07/15/2007 6:14:04 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

I sell for a living, things change.

I suggest that we sell the notion that “Red” is by far a human beings favorite color, Red Sports Cars, Red Hair, Red Fingernails, Red Underwear, Red everything... stupid media will about face in a couple of years.

TT


41 posted on 07/15/2007 6:14:14 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Reeses

>>>”showed Carter with his two upper front teeth missing when he was governor of Georgia”<<<<

I will bet that a Freeper has that picture, and I will bet that looter guy is in it as well!

TT


42 posted on 07/15/2007 6:17:17 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: InvisibleChurch
What an ass. While blaming OPEC and oil imports for the "energy crisis," Carter merely intensified the pain by introducing more quotas.

In 1979, as the Iranian crisis turned into a "fuel crisis," international spot prices moved past $20 a barrel. OPEC official prices were $13-16 a barrel. Meanwhile, domestic U.S. crude was price-limited to $5-$6/ barrel.

Ya think there was an incentive to produce? Price limits and import quotas caused the "energy crisis" and not OPEC.

Yeah, no sheet, Jimmah:

I know, of course, being President, that government actions and legislation can be very important.
Thanks for the memories!


43 posted on 07/15/2007 6:18:22 PM PDT by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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To: Reeses

What is the .. etymology of this change, because I’m old enough to remember this from national election coverage on the major networks but memory is not always infallible but there doesn’t seem to be anything by way of explanation. The green map above reminded me of that - gave me a bit of indigestion but whattaya do? Then you brought it up, which is one of the great things about the forums.


44 posted on 07/15/2007 6:23:03 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Chi-townChief
It don't.

mal·aise 1 : an indefinite feeling of debility or lack of health often indicative of or accompanying the onset of an illness 2 : a vague sense of mental or moral ill-being

45 posted on 07/15/2007 6:23:31 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Forty on the highway, forty in the driveway.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

he was a useless POS then and is still a useless POS


46 posted on 07/15/2007 6:23:43 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: Freedom4US
What is the .. etymology of this change

I think it was the Carter election map shown on TV that was the genesis of the change. Newspapers didn't use so much color back then. The leftist MSM then switched the color coding rules for Reagan saying the challenger would be red, the incumbent blue, to be "fair", then alternate that way going forward. They make up their rules as they go along. Then based on a market research study showing an advantage for blue they changed the rules to always show Republicans red, Democrats blue, to give Democrats a permanent boost. The Gore/Bush recount fiasco, with Bush the "red challenger" solidified that change. Now "red state" means Republican, "blue state" Democrat. The leftist MSM has completed the switch. Outside of America people are confused at the current color scheme. Aren't the reds supposed to be red?

47 posted on 07/15/2007 7:07:34 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Rusty0604

The amazing thing is that in 1980 nobody had a clue just how big an idiot/traitor the peanut farmer was.


48 posted on 07/15/2007 7:10:12 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: bfree
It was Carter who turned me into a Reagan Conservative. For that, I thank him from the bottom of my heart.

For everything else, he can go to hell for all I care.
49 posted on 07/15/2007 7:26:41 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Press 1 for English, press 2 for deport)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"...Thanks, for the memories...." :D
50 posted on 07/15/2007 7:58:53 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass ( just b/c, you suffer from paranoia, doesn't mean they're not out to get you....Run, Fred, Run :^)
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