Skip to comments.It was 28 years ago today, Jimmy Carter talked about "malaise"...with 1980 electoral map
Posted on 07/15/2007 4:11:42 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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New York, Illinois, and California all going GOP. *Sigh*
Those were the days.
Contrast this speech codifying defeat with what Carter’s successor had to say less than two years later.
New York, Illinois, and California all going GOP. *Sigh*
Those were the days.
Those states didn’t vote FOR President Reagan. They voted AGAINST President Carter.
Wrong again. New York, Illinois, and California all going for Reagan!
And you posting that you'd vote for a liberal like Giuliani isn't gonna help the GOP regain power and advance conservatism.
If they would STOP screwing with the base of the Party, and listen to us and follow our directions which the great majority of us assert, why then a lot of those states would come back and would be in the Red State column.
Yeah, and the flipside of that is that Carter still got his best vote totals in the South. Carter only lost the region in 1980 because he got outvoted in the metropolitan areas. Look at a county map from 1980 and you’ll see I’m right.
I always say Jimmy Carter is the reason I’m on the right. We are not losers! thank you jimmy
1984 is here:
Loser president from the party of losers.
I hate that worthless little self-absorbed peanut farmer with the Chiclet grin and the Nazi attitude!
Theres something else DC has failed us on.
We are still held hostage to oil.
We need to move the capital to a army base in the middle of Nebraska. DC can become a tourist attraction.
Make all the congresspeople live in sparse furnishings untill they get congress adjurned and go back home.
6 years is all they get and no generous pension of 150,000 plus.Make the Presidency one 6 year term.
One of Carter’s lines in the peroration jumped off the page:
“Whenever you have a chance, say something good about our country.”
Does the man ever read his own speeches?
As a 13 year old in 1979, one thing I remember clearly was the replacement of the lights on the Christmas Tree in Rockefeller Center in New York with reflectors. I had gone with my mother to the lighting of the tree several times as a kid but we didn’t go for the “unveiling” that year.
I already knew from the news that things were downcast in the nation and the world and that my father was fortunate to have purchased the house before the “misery index” really kicked in. But no lights on the tree, in New York City, well, that just seemed ridiculous to me.
When Ronald Reagan came to office I didn’t have to hear the news, I could see how upbeat everyone had become. Heck, Reagan even won Hudson County in New Jersey!
i did a word search and danged if i could find the words
nuclear/refinery/oil: new exploration
in all of jimmyland there....
did anybody else find any of these words in his plan?
Chicano? Is that someone from Chicago?
Don’t get me wrong! Thank God Ronald Reagan was elected!
I think the nation was in “Anyone but Jimmy” mode in 1980 (that’s the date on the map).
The voters actually voted for President Reagan in 84.
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I was a newlywed...starting out with an 16 % mortgage thanks to this goofy idiot...I remember old people lining up to seel their silver dollars for $18 a pop. The worst president in my life for sure....probably the worst president of all time.
People forget, but a Hillary presidency will be even worse....
CARTER is the malaise.
the reason for me to become a conservative embracing the values and principles of Ronald Reagan and never ever looking back!!!
Actually, bad as Hillary would be, I don’t think she could top Jimmy Carter in sheer cluelessness. He is, and always will be, the Worst President Ever.
I know John Anderson took votes away from Carter in NY. But California was Reagan Country.
Ford actually won California in 1976 49.35% to 47.57%.
In 1980 Reagan got 52.69% of the vote. Carter only got 35.91% and John Anderson got 8.62% of the vote.
Now Californians would vote for an ass if it had a “D” beside it.
Ford took Illinois 50.10% to 48.13% in 1976. Reagan took it 49.65% with Carter getting 41.72% and Anderson 7.30%.
In 1984 Reagan won Illinois by 12.5% and California by 16.0%.
But what happened after 1992 that put California solidly in the Democratic column?
The other clause that jumped off the page to me was “...who feels your pain...” Just a little bit of foreboding for 1992.
Good Lord, I hate Dems who profess to “feel my pain”. I guess that means all of them.
>>>>”Democrats and the leftist MSM realized red was too close to home so messed with the colors. It’s quite amazing how almost all maps were redone to favor the socialists”<<<<<
That is how they “Manage” information these days, Talk Radio can’t control colors... they can.
>>>>I hate Dems who profess to feel my pain<<<<<
Not me! I’m on Offense! They are the surrender Monkeys, I’m proud of the Pain that they feel, I plan to continue inflicting as much as I can as long as I can whether they feel it or not.
>>>>”But what happened after 1992 that put California solidly in the Democratic column?”<<<<<
Tax and Regulation chased the base to friendlier turf, they moved.
Jimmuh identified the problem at that time, but hadn't a clue that (a) he was a major cause, and (b) leadership is not wringing your hands and whining, but inspiring your people with optimism and positive speeches.
most of the presidents in my lifetime have been
Now Californians would vote for an ass if it had a D beside it.
California went for Kerry, right?
>>>>”most of the presidents in my lifetime have been
On the bright side, One Good One can change the History of the World and we just happen to be the Nation that has done it, over and over again.
Dry spells suck but hey to quote Gump “it happens”
Where does the word ‘malaise’ appear in the speech?
Demographic shift from south of the border to north.
I remember a magazine cover once when Jimmy Carter was running for president that showed Carter with his two upper front teeth missing when he was governor of Georgia. He since had false teeth put in but it permanently affected Carter’s speech, which he why he sounds funny talking. For the life of me I can’t find that picture anywhere. It’s pretty hilarious. It’s amazing how it went from a national magazine cover picture to being totally eliminated everywhere. I don’t believe photos of the toothless Carter exist anywhere anymore. The photos were completely destroyed. It’s another demonstration of the power of the leftist MSM!
I sell for a living, things change.
I suggest that we sell the notion that “Red” is by far a human beings favorite color, Red Sports Cars, Red Hair, Red Fingernails, Red Underwear, Red everything... stupid media will about face in a couple of years.
>>>”showed Carter with his two upper front teeth missing when he was governor of Georgia”<<<<
I will bet that a Freeper has that picture, and I will bet that looter guy is in it as well!
In 1979, as the Iranian crisis turned into a "fuel crisis," international spot prices moved past $20 a barrel. OPEC official prices were $13-16 a barrel. Meanwhile, domestic U.S. crude was price-limited to $5-$6/ barrel.
Ya think there was an incentive to produce? Price limits and import quotas caused the "energy crisis" and not OPEC.
Yeah, no sheet, Jimmah:
I know, of course, being President, that government actions and legislation can be very important.Thanks for the memories!
What is the .. etymology of this change, because I’m old enough to remember this from national election coverage on the major networks but memory is not always infallible but there doesn’t seem to be anything by way of explanation. The green map above reminded me of that - gave me a bit of indigestion but whattaya do? Then you brought it up, which is one of the great things about the forums.
mal·aise 1 : an indefinite feeling of debility or lack of health often indicative of or accompanying the onset of an illness 2 : a vague sense of mental or moral ill-being
he was a useless POS then and is still a useless POS
I think it was the Carter election map shown on TV that was the genesis of the change. Newspapers didn't use so much color back then. The leftist MSM then switched the color coding rules for Reagan saying the challenger would be red, the incumbent blue, to be "fair", then alternate that way going forward. They make up their rules as they go along. Then based on a market research study showing an advantage for blue they changed the rules to always show Republicans red, Democrats blue, to give Democrats a permanent boost. The Gore/Bush recount fiasco, with Bush the "red challenger" solidified that change. Now "red state" means Republican, "blue state" Democrat. The leftist MSM has completed the switch. Outside of America people are confused at the current color scheme. Aren't the reds supposed to be red?
The amazing thing is that in 1980 nobody had a clue just how big an idiot/traitor the peanut farmer was.
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