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Wow, Whodathunkit? [UPDATE] (Special election to succeed Charlie Norwood in Congress)
Peach Pundit ^ | July 17, 2007

Posted on 07/17/2007 5:59:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

With 54% of the precincts in, Paul Broun is at 54.5% and Jim Whitehead is at 45.5%

Broun has really been able to pull in votes in Clarke County and Oconee County.

[UPDATE:] We might just be calling this race for Paul Broun. Athens has stomped Jim Whitehead. Did they not even try there? With 68% in, we’re at 54.9% to 45.1%.

A lot of crow will be eaten if Broun wins.

(Excerpt) Read more at peachpundit.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: amnesty; charlienorwood; electioncongress; georgia; specialelection
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1 posted on 07/17/2007 5:59:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; LdSentinal; GeorgefromGeorgia; RobFromGa; #1CTYankee; ...

The special election to succeed the late Charlie Norwood is today. This says that Dr. Paul Broun is leading state Senator Jim Whitehead, the GOP establishment’s choice, in the vote totals.

Can anyone confirm this?


2 posted on 07/17/2007 6:03:01 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

who’s who?


3 posted on 07/17/2007 6:03:14 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Clintonfatigued

WOW


4 posted on 07/17/2007 6:03:37 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yes.

Link

Very close

5 posted on 07/17/2007 6:05:02 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Clintonfatigued
Close but you're right the Doc is winning.
6 posted on 07/17/2007 6:06:13 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well, that’s quite a surprise!


7 posted on 07/17/2007 6:06:23 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: gusopol3; pissant

Both candidates are Republicans in a runoff tonight that’s technically non-partisan. The Republican establishment has rallied around state Senator Jim Whitehead. The political outsider is Dr. Paul Broun, whose father was a state Senator years ago. This is claiming that Broun, who was thought to have no chance, is winning.

I am looking for confirmation of it and have been unable to find any so far.


8 posted on 07/17/2007 6:07:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: The Old Hoosier; 2ndDivisionVet; T.L.Sink; fieldmarshaldj

“Well, that’s quite a surprise!”

Yes, and a GOOD surprise. Broun ran a conservative populist campaign, and took the more forceful stand against amnesty for illegal aliens.


9 posted on 07/17/2007 6:08:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Didn’t Whitehead endorse amnesty? If he did, and he’s losing to the outsider despite party support, this is good news.


10 posted on 07/17/2007 6:09:17 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: gusopol3
Dr. Paul Broun
11 posted on 07/17/2007 6:09:54 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: LdSentinal

Wow, this is a surprise.

I’d assumed that Whitehead would win 60-40%.

I’m not sure the votes are there for Whitehead to come from behind.


12 posted on 07/17/2007 6:09:59 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Clintonfatigued
At 9:09 p.m. EDT and 95% of precincts in, Broun is up by a little over 200 votes. This one is going down to the wire.

U.S. Representative, District 10 95% of precincts reporting PR=Precincts Reporting TP=Total Precincts Broun (R) 23,084 50.3% Whitehead (R) 22,813 49.7%

13 posted on 07/17/2007 6:11:23 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: puroresu

Whitehead didn’t endorse amnesty, but Broun was much more outspoken in his opposition to it.


14 posted on 07/17/2007 6:11:28 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Both candidates are Republicans in a runoff tonight that’s technically non-partisan. The Republican establishment has rallied around state Senator Jim Whitehead. The political outsider is Dr. Paul Broun, whose father was a state Senator years ago. This is claiming that Broun, who was thought to have no chance, is winning.

So where do Whitehead and Broun stand on illegal immigration?

15 posted on 07/17/2007 6:11:32 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Clintonfatigued

For the unitiated outsiders, what’s the significance of Broun’s lead? Beyond the fact that the other candidate was the establishment choice I mean.


16 posted on 07/17/2007 6:12:06 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This’ll be a nice, pleasant surprise. Sen. Whitehead isn’t a bad man, but it’s always refreshing to send anti-establishment Republicans to office... as long as they’re not too nutty (i.e. Dr. Demento).

It also demonstrates that placing first before a runoff isn’t always a guarantee of a victory.


17 posted on 07/17/2007 6:12:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: MplsSteve

Broun really emphasized his social conservative roots at the end of the runoff campaign.


18 posted on 07/17/2007 6:12:31 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: knarf; Clintonfatigued

thanks


19 posted on 07/17/2007 6:14:23 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Clintonfatigued

As I recall, Clarke County is where one of the major Georgia cities is located, and I seem to remember it being a county with a strong Democratic presence, so, Broun might be benefitting from Democratic crossover voters.

I think it’s interesting because this election feels alot like the old primaries used to be. I personally think that the primary as nominating election system honestly clouds the way elections would progress if normally carried out. For example, I pretty much don’t get a vote in who represents me on the school board, or state house because both are black districts, and as such, are decided in the Democratic primary. Only way I’d concievably get a vote is if a special election was held, such as this. So what you might be seeing, at least in Clarke, is a desire among Democrats to basically, actually have a real vote for once.

Then again, this also the product of the fact that Georgia actually has a law that says that there are runoffs in partisan general/special elections, and most states don’t have that. The fact that this race is even happening is because of that quirk in GA law. I think that was the same thing that got Coverdell elected, could be wrong on that though.


20 posted on 07/17/2007 6:17:09 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued

96% reporting
Votes Pct.
Paul Broun 23,143 50.3%
Jim Whitehead 22,866 49.7%


21 posted on 07/17/2007 6:17:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: saganite

For one thing, Broun was a virtual unknown who was massively outspent. Also, he was the more outspoken opponent of amnesty.

This is a loud voice of protest against the whole political establishment by Republican voters. Hopefully, Bush will listen to them.


22 posted on 07/17/2007 6:18:03 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

If the Dems are voting in any sizeable numbers, then it would make little sense for them to be voting for the more Conservative candidate, as Dr. Broun is.


23 posted on 07/17/2007 6:19:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead

You are so right, especially about sending a message to the establishment. I was rooting for Broun (read my previous postings on this race), but I never imagined that he could win.


24 posted on 07/17/2007 6:19:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Here’s hoping Broun wins. Thanks for the background.


25 posted on 07/17/2007 6:20:03 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Broun is indeed more conservative than the late Charlie Norwood.


26 posted on 07/17/2007 6:20:56 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: AzaleaCity5691

You could register as a Democrat so you have a say in the local results, and still vote R whenever you like in the General.


27 posted on 07/17/2007 6:21:49 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: saganite

You’re very welcome.

The conservative grass roots has spoken, and they just said, “NO MORE POLITICS AS USUAL!!!!”


28 posted on 07/17/2007 6:22:56 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: AzaleaCity5691; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
The city is the college town of Athens, and it’s city lines are conterminous with the county lines. As someone suggested, it is unlikely for liberal Athens Democrats to be casting votes for the socially conservative Broun, but then again he’s an ex-Democrat and the son of a prominent Democrat, so who knows?
29 posted on 07/17/2007 6:23:33 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: LdSentinal; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

“Broun is indeed more conservative than the late Charlie Norwood.”


On which issues? Norwood was an across-the-board conservative. And how do we know for sure, since Broun has never served in office before? Just asking.


30 posted on 07/17/2007 6:25:58 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

The only reason the liberal Athenians might have for doing so is perhaps hoping Broun ends up so right-wing in Congress that it gives a more moderate-sounding Dem a chance at the next election. But this district is highly unlikely to toss Dr. Broun for any reason other than personal impropriety.


31 posted on 07/17/2007 6:26:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Broun is very socially conservative, probably moreso than Whitehead and Norwood.

He accused Whitehead of not being "Christian enough" because Whitehead refused to talk about his campaign in church due to "seperation of church and state."

32 posted on 07/17/2007 6:28:18 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: fieldmarshaldj; LdSentinal; Clintonfatigued

Broun up by 277 votes with 11 precincts left. Most of the precincts still out are in counties that went for Broun, so unless the one remaining Columbia County precinct is *huge*, Broun will almost certainly win. (Unless the recount shows a mistake, of course.)


33 posted on 07/17/2007 6:29:22 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatpat

We don’t register by party, you declare it at election. And the problem is, school board elections run in even years with some sort of important primary, our county commissioners are elected in presidential years, and sheriff goes in the gubernatorial years, and both of those offices, sheriff and my particular commission district, go in even years, so actually, no, that wouldn’t work.

Then again, municipal elections are non-partisan, and so that has allowed some wierd coalitions to form in city politics that couldn’t exist under a partisan system. We actually have a special election in the majority black county commission district, that happens to be 35% white, and because it is the only thing that will be on the ballot, all the people who are normally disenfranchised because they vote in the GOP primary will be able to declare as Democratic if they want to, and they’ll be able to vote in that primary, which means the white vote will actually be important, which seems to suggest that they’ll get someone like the person who preceded the previous commissioner.


34 posted on 07/17/2007 6:33:59 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Athens vs. Augusta whatnot, Broun won this due to his home county of Oconee County turning out for him in guge numbers.

This is after the Oconee Republican establishment endorsed Whitehead and then withrdew their support.

35 posted on 07/17/2007 6:34:47 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Oh.

Not a system I am familiar with......

36 posted on 07/17/2007 6:35:12 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: LdSentinal

Is ‘guge’ a synonym for ‘hugh’?


37 posted on 07/17/2007 6:36:02 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: expatpat

And serious.


38 posted on 07/17/2007 6:37:15 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

I assume you mean “series.”


39 posted on 07/17/2007 6:39:38 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: LdSentinal

Did he say it in those words, or did he only imply it?


40 posted on 07/17/2007 6:39:56 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: LdSentinal

Series ? Oh the guge manitee.


41 posted on 07/17/2007 6:41:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: AuH2ORepublican

And Whitehead is getting his beeber stuned something fierce.


42 posted on 07/17/2007 6:42:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Clintonfatigued
Link
43 posted on 07/17/2007 6:43:42 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

I think this image should give one pause. Although Dr. Broun is only, IIRC, about a year or so younger than Sen. Whitehead, you'll note the age difference looks far more stark, by at least 10-15 years. I wouldn't want someone like Whitehead beginning his career in Congress based on that photo.

44 posted on 07/17/2007 6:47:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: LdSentinal

It’s no way to campaign, but to his credit, Broun did apologize and retract the offending statement.

I hope he wins this thing. We need more populist outsiders.


45 posted on 07/17/2007 6:47:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued
PeachPundit is saying Whitehead barely campaigned, few flies and TV advertising. He took the runoff for granted.

And the head of Charlie Norwood's poltical machine was in . . . Nashville with the Fred Thompson campaign for the past 3 weeks

46 posted on 07/17/2007 6:48:53 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
flies* = fliars.
47 posted on 07/17/2007 6:50:11 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

You might wanna try that again. Long day ? ;-D


48 posted on 07/17/2007 6:51:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: LdSentinal; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

Wasn’t it Whitehead who declare his candidacy before Norwood was even buried? I seem to recall DJ pointing out that it was in bad form, and could rub potential voters the wrong way. I wonder, had Whitehead had waited another week before announcing his intention to run, could it have made the difference today? We’ll never know.


49 posted on 07/17/2007 6:52:50 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

Whitehead not conceding. According to him there are 1700 absentees in Columbia county and 900 out in Athens (Clarke County).


50 posted on 07/17/2007 6:54:46 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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