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Need large screen TV advice and opinions. (Need videophile advice)
7/18/07 | Self

Posted on 07/18/2007 7:55:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Okay, I am going to spend some of my mad money for a large screen HDTV. I want either a LCD or Plasma TV, no projection tv's. I want 1080p resolution. I'll have around $2000 to spend. What I need is advice on what is good, what sucks, what breaks, what keeps on working, plasma tv life expectancy, etc.

Hit me!


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hdtv; lcd; plamsa; unplugit; wasteofmoney
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1 posted on 07/18/2007 7:55:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Try Sam’s Club or Costco for selection and reasonable prices.

Try Consumer Reports for reviews.

Do some web searches and read where people gave reviews.


2 posted on 07/18/2007 7:56:45 PM PDT by misterrob ("I've never heard of anyone going on the disabled list with pulled fat." RIP Rod Beck)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Don’t buy Sony.


3 posted on 07/18/2007 7:58:07 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (So, I put on some tangerine lip gloss and answered the door.. I was one lucky woman.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

ping


4 posted on 07/18/2007 7:58:24 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Really? Why?


5 posted on 07/18/2007 7:59:05 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Look in to laser TV.
Due around 2008.
Touting twice the bang for half the buck.
6 posted on 07/18/2007 7:59:10 PM PDT by shadowcat
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I have the same question. :’)


7 posted on 07/18/2007 8:00:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/olevia-542i-lcd-hdtv-969.shtml


8 posted on 07/18/2007 8:00:53 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Thanks, I’d avoid Sony also based on past experience with Sony products — overpriced and overrated.


9 posted on 07/18/2007 8:01:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Dude, it took me 6 months of research and decisions to get one. It was 37'', $699 (!) LCD, obscure brand, but showing identical features as a well known recommended brand twice the price. Hint, hint! The first box was defective, but was happily exchanged at no cost to me except gasoline.

There are 86 brands now, I read somewhere. You need to do a lot of your own research.One thing I can tell you from my research and experience is that all brands have quality problems, and service problems (I seem to have gotten lucky with the service part.) Good luck.

10 posted on 07/18/2007 8:02:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The Olevia 42" and 37" are CR Best Buys and you can get both of them for less than 2K, about $850 for the 37" and $1100 for the 42".

Try Beach Camera.

11 posted on 07/18/2007 8:03:19 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I have an LCD 42” HD. Plasma better for fast action. No question. And don’t be too quick to dismiss the projection TVs...I was at my sister’s two weeks ago and they had a huge projection HDTV that was incredible.


12 posted on 07/18/2007 8:03:20 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Do buy Sony. I have a 40” XBR1 (1080i)in the bedroom and a 46” XBR3 (1080p) for the home theater. Stunning picture on both. No problems what so ever.


13 posted on 07/18/2007 8:03:30 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: mom4kittys

Sony does not have the best bang for the buck.. I have never been happy with their picture quality.


14 posted on 07/18/2007 8:04:12 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (So, I put on some tangerine lip gloss and answered the door.. I was one lucky woman.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

fwiw..

Plasma TV Buying Guide
http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/

I wouldn’t mind a 50 inch plasma myself.


15 posted on 07/18/2007 8:04:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Could try searching at either slickdeals.net or fatwallet.com(hot deals forums)...good place for reviews/pricing info.


16 posted on 07/18/2007 8:04:45 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (sing after me......de-por-ta-tion cha-cha-cha)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Supposedly plasma fades over many years. I’d be happy if someone could squash that as only a myth, because it kind of bothers me.


17 posted on 07/18/2007 8:06:38 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Thats what I have heard as well, and it makes me lean toward DLP. Sure the bulb burns out after 3 yrs but you can replace it


18 posted on 07/18/2007 8:08:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Go to reviews.cnet.com for not only reviews of the different TVs but also where to get the best prices.


19 posted on 07/18/2007 8:10:55 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Panasonic plasma. Best picture by far, the most reliable per a friend who does warranty work for many of the big electronic stores here in Indianapolis, they have good connectivity also. Stay away from LCDs, at this point they don’t have the picture quality, black levels or reliability of the big plasmas. At your price point though I don’t know if you can get 1080P on anything larger than a 42 incher.

Plasma City and Plasma Depot are good online suppliers. The following prices were found on Plasma Depot.

TH-42PZ700U $2079
TH-50PZ700U $2979

Finally don’t buy into the old burn in issue with plasmas. That problem, which was never as bad as some would have had you think, has been a non-starter in high end plasmas for at least 4 generations of screens.

Hope this helps.


20 posted on 07/18/2007 8:11:04 PM PDT by redangus
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.hdguru.com/


21 posted on 07/18/2007 8:11:07 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

that’s http://reviews.cnet.com


22 posted on 07/18/2007 8:11:53 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I don’t own a television machine.

But if I did, I would want an LCD. Plasma TVs flicker—though nothing like a CRT. In my experience, they are brighter than is necessary or pleasant. I find the absence of flicker a big plus for LCD screens.

As far as I know, LCDs last longer.


23 posted on 07/18/2007 8:12:16 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: SteveMcKing
Supposedly plasma fades over many years. I’d be happy if someone could squash that as only a myth, because it kind of bothers me.

I used to feel the same way, until my son appealed to reason.

All TVs fade with time; always have, always will.

Plasma and LCDs just do it at one fourth the rate.

So where's the problem? I stopped thinking about it after that....

24 posted on 07/18/2007 8:12:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Be sure to get a name brand, like Sorny, Magnetbox, or Panaphonics!


25 posted on 07/18/2007 8:13:21 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: SteveMcKing

It’s a myth unless you are going to own the TV for 25+ years and watch it at least 8hours/day. The new plasmas have a life of 60000 hours, i.e that is how long it takes for the screen to lose half its brightness.


26 posted on 07/18/2007 8:13:44 PM PDT by redangus
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To: mylife

check the price on that replacement bulb it may change your mind.


27 posted on 07/18/2007 8:14:26 PM PDT by redangus
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To: mylife

Don’t you think it’s time to STOP WATCHING T.V.?

Here’s why:

- TV makes people SICK!!
- TV enslaves you and Saps all your creative energy!
- TV hooks you like DRUGS!
- TV is obviously a “Vast Wasteland.” (This is common knowledge)
- TV is just plain BAD for you physically, mentally, and spiritually.
- Watching it will cause you great unhappiness in life and you’re more than likely to get CANCER or some other weird disease!!

If you absolutely must have your media injection, why not just read a good book?

(from: R.Crumb, Zap Comix, 1968)


28 posted on 07/18/2007 8:14:29 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Canada the Great)
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To: Publius6961; redangus

Thanks for the info


29 posted on 07/18/2007 8:14:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
FWIW, don't post any screengrabs of Tammy Faye Baker on FR that you might happen to nab.
30 posted on 07/18/2007 8:15:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: redangus

bout $200


31 posted on 07/18/2007 8:15:15 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You want contrast, black blacks and no burn in. That means DLP.


32 posted on 07/18/2007 8:15:39 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Samsung or Vizio from Costco.


33 posted on 07/18/2007 8:15:52 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: shadowcat

Thanks, interesting... Google results...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20556847-2,00.html
http://www.i4u.com/article5383.html
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/19/laser-tv-no-plasma-killer/


34 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
As an avid Video/Audiophile I am shocked to make this recommendation:

Samsung.

Ouch, got to let that settle.

Ok, I shopped for 3 years before making the HDTV Jump, I wanted something to fit my Adcom/Magnapan (now Klipsch, cat issue)audio side. I had been using a Sony XBR tube because I only bought Sony Video. Thats what the studios use, that is what the signal is normally engineered with.

Sony has had issues since all the management shake up back in 2000 or so. Their commercial division is still solid but less of that engineering has filtered down to consumer line.

That sent me shopping, for months. Finally got a Samsung 52 Inch Plasma. That was after cruising both low end and high end stores all over the Southeast.

Even their entry level units are good product.

It hurts, trust me. Samsung used to represent crap. But they are going after the Big Boys and doing a good job of it.

35 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:04 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ahhhh! Finally, I can answer something with expertise! I was an area supervisor for DirecTV, and the first person in my very large office with a Level III certification in Broadband technology and FCC certified....well, you get the point.

Somebody replied never buy Sony, but Sony has a great picture. However, they seem to have bad hardware that tends to break (such as the buttons, etc.).

For your price range, I would recommend any Panasonic plasma TV. However, any Hitachi will also have a great picture.

As far as Plasma versus the LCD: Plasma all the way! Back in the day, Plasma got a bad rap due to its 1/2 light/brightness age. However, due to technology, you could now run a Plasma 24 hours per day, seven days per week, for about ten years before reaching half-brightness. In other words, your picture will last the average user until around the year 2040 (by then you’ll be ready for a new TV no matter how cheap you are).

If you really want an excellent TV for an excellent price, find a Vizeo plasma TV. Vizeo is among the cheapest with excellent reviews from all of the major consumer reporting companies. I have worked on them personally and also have found them remarkable.

If you need any advise on hooking up cables, etc., feel free to contact me via private mail and I will be glad to send you advise and instructions.


36 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:10 PM PDT by BKerr (Thompson 2008!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I sold my plasma for bigger plasma.


37 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:36 PM PDT by jdm
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To: BreezyDog

All of my AV questions (owners reviews) are answered here:

www.avsforum.com (audio video sciences forum)

Click on it. You’ll see. I can spend hours there


38 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:53 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: SteveMcKing
Supposedly plasma fades over many years. I’d be happy if someone could squash that as only a myth, because it kind of bothers me.

It is not a myth it is pure physics. Plasma drops to 80% of its original brightness in two to three years depending on the type of usage it gets. Most users are not aware of the gradual fade. Some users are bothered because of the lighting or angles in their viewing room.

39 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:53 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: jdm
You are illin’.

LOL

40 posted on 07/18/2007 8:17:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Brabantio: Thou art a villain. Iago: You are--a senator.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

...had very bad experiences with Sony..(6 repair jobs over a ten month period)
Now have a Sharp Aquos 37”.....excellent!!..and well within your price range.

Doogle


41 posted on 07/18/2007 8:17:47 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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Put aside some cash for good connection wiring as well. You can spend a ton on a great TV and then try to connect it with cheap wires and it sucks.

HDMI connectors go for a lot more than I ever thought.

You might also want to think about whether you need additional connections to your TV. Do you have stand alone DVD players, VHS players—are you ever going to connect your PC to the TV...stuff like that.

I checked them out and got a TV model that did NOT have all of the bells and whistles...primarily because I KNEW I would never use them. Can save you $100 sometimes.

And yes, I would second the recommendation of Costco. They seem to have more TVs every time I go in there. Good prices too.


42 posted on 07/18/2007 8:18:06 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: SunkenCiv

My experience with Sony has not been good. I agree, avoid Sony. I’d recommend Panasonic.


43 posted on 07/18/2007 8:18:08 PM PDT by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

What about Bravia?


44 posted on 07/18/2007 8:18:20 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

http://www.avsforum.com/


45 posted on 07/18/2007 8:19:04 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: NormsRevenge

when ya think about it,we some sick sob’s spending 1000 or 3000 dollars for a tv.


46 posted on 07/18/2007 8:19:25 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: mylife

Avoid DLP if you’re concerned about reliability. As you know, DLP uses a million tiny mirrors to generate the picture. These are all MECHANICAL parts that can, and will break. Stick with LCD.

And yes, I am a video engineer.


47 posted on 07/18/2007 8:19:43 PM PDT by fzx12345 (ACLU DELENDA EST)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You can get a 720p plasma for $2,000 but you’ll be spending close to $4,000 for a 1080p plasma. I’m planning on a 1080p plasma myself but waiting for the holiday cost competition.


48 posted on 07/18/2007 8:19:47 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SteveMcKing
Most top of the line manufacturers rate their displays at around 150,000 hours MTB.

That’s 17 years of constant viewing.

49 posted on 07/18/2007 8:20:05 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m very happy with a 55” DLP. Much better brightness than LCDs and plasmas. That means you can use it in a sun-filled room, while LCDs and plasmas only look their best in a darkened room.


50 posted on 07/18/2007 8:20:34 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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