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Houston tycoon finds himself in the cross hairs
Houston Chronicle -NYTimes of the South ^ | July 19, 2007, 6:34AM | TOM FOWLER

Posted on 07/19/2007 10:24:04 AM PDT by TexasCajun

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To: jonascord

I’m not especially curious about what will happen to him. I’m wondering what is generally done (if anything) by hunting clubs when a member seems to have been a poor sportsman.


81 posted on 07/19/2007 3:51:42 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Do you know anyone who shoot deer from a tree stand?


82 posted on 07/19/2007 4:58:36 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: MarkL

“The Lacy act doesn’t seem to apply to this case, but that’s what he’s being charged with...”

You think.

Politics has to be at the root of this prosecution. On its face it makes absolutely no sense for the Prosecutor’s office to wasting precious resources on such a trivial matter.

In addition to possible abuse of prosecutorial discretion this misguided effort smacks of extra-territoriality.

What in heavens name is a Prosecutor in Houston doing effectively enforcing Russian Laws using and antiquated U.S. law which does not even appear to be legally germane?


83 posted on 07/19/2007 6:04:59 PM PDT by ggekko60506
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To: chaosagent
Where did you get '30' feet?

When you've run an animal until it is staggering with a helicopter and call it hunting, then you would lie about the distance as well.

84 posted on 07/19/2007 6:40:15 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: jonascord
I Said: "...I’d like to know just how and why these sorts of charges can be brought against a man who may or may not have broken laws in another country...

You said: I suppose if I were really bent, I could go to Arabia, pay someone some money and lop off some hands and heads. Or maybe Thailand, and rape some baby boys. After all, it's not like I would have broken the laws of the United States...

Can you be charged by the United States government for a "crime" you committed in another country, unless there's a specific law covering that act. For instance, there IS a US law covering one of the acts you mention. It's illegal for a US citizen to go to another country to have sex with underage children, passed by congress to battle "sex tours" for child prostitution in countries like Thailand. The problem is with jurisdiction. In your other example, could you go to arabia, and pay someone to be an executioner, lopping off the hands and/or heads of "criminals?" Obviously, doing so in the US would be a criminal act, but it's not one in arabia... So, could you be charged with a crime in the US, for participating in a legal act in another country?

And then there's the fact that the crime he's being charged with doesn't seem to be covered by the law they're using!

Hardin said prosecutors from Washington, D.C., may use the Lacey Act, a 107-year-old law designed to prevent the interstate and international trafficking of rare plants and animals, to bring felony criminal charges against Duncan. If found guilty he could face jail time, Hardin said.

It seems that neither one of these animals he killed were rare. A moose and a sheep.

Perhaps you might want to think on this a little more.

I've given it quite a bit of thought...

This seems to be analogous to my going deer hunting in a state where .223 is legal for deer, but in my home state it's not... And then being charged when I get back for using an illegal caliber while hunting deer.

Mark

85 posted on 07/19/2007 7:27:22 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Shooter 2.5

“Do you know anyone who shoot deer from a tree stand?”

Yes but I never saw one pursue an animal by flying a tree.


86 posted on 07/20/2007 3:33:01 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Your home for pithy disquistion)
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To: jonascord

You seem to have a real hard-on for this guy, is there a particular personal reason? The unexplained hate evident in your responses could prompt fewer and fewer people to agree with the following statement on your profile:
“considered by some to be intelligent.”


87 posted on 07/20/2007 6:42:23 AM PDT by RetiredNavy
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To: SamuraiScot
What were a moose and a sheep doing riding in a helicopter?

88 posted on 07/20/2007 6:48:53 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: RetiredNavy
Until yesterday, I hadn't known of his existance. The more I researched, the more contemptable he became. This slimeball is the archtype of a country club Republican, the kind that gives the rest of us a bad name. This guy will shoot anything that doesn't move too fast to aim at, pay for beaters to drive everything on to his gunsight, and then stand over the piles of dead with a big smile and a "Oh, what a good boy am I!" look on his face. The kind of guy who would have his driver try to hit cats in the street.

I stopped hunting after I got back from overseas. It's an education to be shot at by a skilled hunter. I was lucky, he was just slow enough. Duncan, however, has never had the experience.

Dan Duncan is a Life Member of a "club" that calls everything he shoots a "record." He buys his kills, he doesn't hunt them. He makes the rest of us shooters look bad.

This kind of stupid, Hollywood style uber-comsumption pushes my buttons. Republicans are SUPPOSED to be smarter than this, or, like a good Mafia boss, clever enough to keep quiet about it...

89 posted on 07/20/2007 4:50:07 PM PDT by jonascord (Hurray! for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears the Single Star!)
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To: TexasCajun

A real sportsman he is not, but a felon? Please.


90 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:00 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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