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Today’s Trail of Tears: The Legacy of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
SearchWarp.com ^ | 7/19/07 | Dan Cross

Posted on 07/19/2007 11:28:19 AM PDT by DBCJR

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is 33 times more likely to occur in a Native American baby than a Caucasian baby, 37 times more than Hispanics, and 5 times more likely than a Black baby. The cost of care for each individual affected is estimated at $2.4 million over a lifetime. Yet most tribal nations have cut funding for education and prevention. Few have FAS Coordinators any longer. Read more about it and what you can do.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: New Mexico; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: alcohol; fas; fetal; indians; native; syndrome
Preventing one FAS pregnancy means an enormous difference in the quality of life for everyone concerned, but the impact on tax-funded services is dramatic. Education and prevention dollars spent are many times cheaper.
1 posted on 07/19/2007 11:28:24 AM PDT by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR
Isn't there a warning on beer and liquor to not drink during pregnancy? I mean, I've heard, seen, and read about the dangers a million times and I'm only 35.

I don't want to sound cruel, but come on, you can't take care of people who don't want to take care of themselves. Turn on a TV, listen to the radio, or for Pete's sake, read the label on a beer bottle.

2 posted on 07/19/2007 11:44:35 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: DBCJR

Precisely what does one say to a group whose main schtick is lying about drunk? Put down the bottle, get off your butt, get a real job....


3 posted on 07/19/2007 11:47:23 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: lovecraft

Well, I’m with lovecraft. There has been a cut in FAS Coordinators? This is actually NOT the main problem here. People know not to smoke or drink, and they CHOOSE to do otherwise.


4 posted on 07/19/2007 12:00:00 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: lovecraft

You ARE taking “care of people who don’t want to take care of themselves”. Your tax dollars are paying the $2.4 million/person afflicted with FAS.


5 posted on 07/19/2007 12:09:21 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: twonie

Not so much that as “If you drink that your baby’s brain will look like ... and he will be retarded, and you will have lots of problems raising him.” You have to spell it out for these people. A warning label on a can of beer is about as effective as a warning label on a pack of cigarettes. And we taxpayers get to pay for the care, about $2.4 million each.


6 posted on 07/19/2007 12:14:30 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR

This is shocking! But they live by their own tribal laws, right? The feds or state gov’ts are powerless, right? So what can you do?


7 posted on 07/19/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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To: bboop

Lovecraft Biofuels? What does lovecraft have to do with it?


8 posted on 07/19/2007 12:18:31 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Saundra Duffy

“This is shocking! But they live by their own tribal laws, right? The feds or state gov’ts are powerless, right? So what can you do?”

Tribal Law is confusing and constantly contested. They are nations but the USA is sovereign. They have their own laws but they cannot violate federal laws.

Actually we are not powerless. The feds are funding many Native American projects. They have been a hot item for grant funding for several years. They are also not limited to Tribal Nation benefits. They can access federal & state benefits. That’s why WE have a problem as taxpayers, even if you might not care about the people.


9 posted on 07/19/2007 12:26:26 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR
You ARE taking “care of people who don’t want to take care of themselves”. Your tax dollars are paying the $2.4 million/person afflicted with FAS.

Whew!!! Well then, looks like the problem's solved...if 2.4 mil/person ain't enough, than I'm just plain tapped out. LOL

10 posted on 07/19/2007 12:31:23 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: DBCJR
Lovecraft Biofuels? What does lovecraft have to do with it?

I'm confused by this statement as well...Unless it has something to do with Chthulu sucking the souls out people into a bottomless hell spawned pit. Hey!!! Could there be a connection to that and taxes??!!

11 posted on 07/19/2007 12:34:28 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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Is there some sort of FAS/FAE information campaign to educate expectant mothers on reservations about the effects their drinking has on the unborn child?

I don't know much about FAS/FAE in that segment of society - I do have some knowledge of this concern in adopted children from Russia.

12 posted on 07/19/2007 12:41:00 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: lovecraft

“Whew!!! Well then, looks like the problem’s solved...if 2.4 mil/person ain’t enough, than I’m just plain tapped out. LOL”

Yeah, that’s one way of looking at it. I am about saving some of that $2.4 million through education & prevention.


13 posted on 07/19/2007 12:54:55 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

There is an abundance of information available, but the problem is getting it from the sources to the people at risk in a way that is meaningful for them.


14 posted on 07/19/2007 12:56:58 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR

And? the various tribes seem to be making a lot of money, off casinos, etc.

What do they need my help?


15 posted on 07/19/2007 1:05:36 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: DBCJR

Thanks.


16 posted on 07/19/2007 4:08:16 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: twonie; DBCJR
Precisely what does one say to a group whose main schtick is lying about drunk? Put down the bottle, get off your butt, get a real job....

I don't know. What does one say to once proud people who were stripped of everything, and herded onto reservations like livestock?

It is common knowlege that Whites found the Indian's Achilles heel, and exploited it for their own gain. Just like those who target certain people with meth, crack, etc...

17 posted on 07/19/2007 5:11:34 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: DBCJR

Lovecraft had just posted/ I was responding.


18 posted on 07/19/2007 5:35:14 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

I am the mom of six children born with Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder adopted from foster care. Visit nofas.org for information.

Ak


19 posted on 07/19/2007 5:59:27 PM PDT by quazeemama
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I think you say (’to once proud people’) — do not live in the past. Life is tough. The future is yours, should you take it.


20 posted on 07/20/2007 7:01:39 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

If they lived in the past, we wouldn’t be discussing this problem.


21 posted on 07/20/2007 10:36:47 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

WOW

Your white ancestors are offended.


22 posted on 07/20/2007 10:41:09 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: bannie

LOL! My white ancestors came over from Ireland in the early 1900’s.


23 posted on 07/20/2007 12:02:42 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

WOW...You just slipped right in to what the Forefathers built then.

...and NONE of your ancestors—clear back to the beginning—have ever battled for land.

How nice for you.


24 posted on 07/20/2007 12:18:21 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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WOW...You just slipped right in to what the Forefathers built then.

...and NONE of your ancestors—clear back to the beginning—have ever battled for land.

How nice for you.

Exactly what in the hell is your problem? None of my Irish, oops forgot to mention Catholic, ancestors ever battled for their country? We not only battled for the land, we also fought against cultural extinction. The Brits outlawed our religion and our language. Oh and before you accuse me of harboring bad feelings for the British...I'm an American first, and the British are America's allies.

My kids have Iroquois blood from their paternal grandma's side. Whatever you're trying to imply, don't go there. When I originally posted the comment I made, I obviously didn't parse it so you could understand. Let me s p e l l it out for you: The Indian's way of life was brutally ripped from them. The survivors were then herded onto barren land, which was "given" to them. These people migrated seasonally as a way of life, then were penned in on some piece of dirt. Alcohol was not part of their lives until the white man introduced it to them. In fact, studies show that they have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism.

At least they finally turned the dirt into gold, by way of Indian gaming. Any more cute remarks?

25 posted on 07/20/2007 2:42:53 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Every American whose family has lived here for any length of time has American Indian blood of some amount or another. Further, American Indians are counted by those who have a PERCENTAGE of Am Ind. blood. I doubt that there exists ONE person from between the north and south borders of the USA who is FULLY Am Ind.

So...who ARE you preaching to?

You have enough cute remarks for all of us.

BTW: Your ancestry didn’t begin in English with the poor downtrodden Catholics--who Never EEEEEVER hurt a soul.

26 posted on 07/20/2007 4:17:37 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: everyone

What about prosecuting the drinking mothers with child abuse?


27 posted on 07/20/2007 4:23:36 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: bannie
My, but you're having a bad day, aren't you...

My ex and the children classify themselves as "white, or Caucasian", when asked by government busybodies.

Preaching? I replied to another poster, and you jumped in with a hostile reply to me.

BTW: Your ancestry didn’t begin in English with the poor downtrodden Catholics--who Never EEEEEVER hurt a soul.

Do you have a problem with Irish Catholic immigrants? It doesn't matter, because you obviously have a problem with me. Let's just agree to act like adults and not post to one another in the future.

Hope your day gets a little better...

28 posted on 07/20/2007 6:46:17 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Marie2

“What about prosecuting the drinking mothers with child abuse?”

That’s like waiting till Al Qaeda strikes again & reporting it to the UN. After the fact doean’t do any good.


29 posted on 07/20/2007 8:35:56 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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