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No Pardon Promise for Ex-Border Patrol Agents
CNSnews ^ | today | Fred Lucas

Posted on 07/19/2007 6:39:50 PM PDT by Rodney King

No Pardon Promise for Ex-Border Patrol Agents By Fred Lucas CNSNews.com Staff Writer July 19, 2007

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(CNSNews.com) - President George W. Bush Thursday praised the federal prosecutor who was grilled two days earlier by a Senate panel for his role in the conviction of two U.S. Border Patrol agents for the shooting a drug dealer.

Taking questions from members of the Nashville, Tenn., Chamber of Commerce after a speech, Bush declined to promise to pardon the two agents, as a growing number of lawmakers are urging.

"I'm not going to make that kind of promise in a forum like this," Bush said. "Obviously I am interested in facts. I know the prosecutor very well, Johnny Sutton. He's a dear friend of mine from Texas. He's a fair guy. He is an even-handed guy."

Sutton has a long association with the president. Between 1995 and 2000, he served as then Texas Gov. George W. Bush's criminal justice policy director.

Before he was appointed to the post of U.S. attorney, Sutton served as a policy coordinator in the Bush-Cheney transition team when the president was first elected.

Bush spoke for the first time in months regarding the controversial case of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, sentenced to 11 and 12 years respectively in federal prison for shooting a fleeing drug smuggler in the buttocks in February 2005 and then trying to cover up the shooting. Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, a Mexican national, was attempting to smuggle 743 pounds of marijuana into the country.

On Wednesday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) sent Bush a letter asking him to commute the sentence. A bill in the House, with more than 100 co-sponsors, is calling for a congressional pardon.

Bush gave no sign Thursday that he was feeling the heat over the episode.

"I know this is an emotional issue, but people need to look at the facts," he said. "These men were convicted by a jury of their peers after listening to the facts as my friend, Johnny Sutton, presented them. But anyway, no, I won't make you that promise."

Sutton, who has borne the brunt of public anger over the Ramos-Compean case, offered Aldrete-Davila immunity from prosecution for trying to smuggle the drugs into the U.S., in return for the Mexican's testimony against the two border agents.

In an interview with Cybercast News Service early this year, Sutton attributed public sentiment to distorted media coverage of the affair.

He faced fire from members of the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday during a hearing examining the case.

Senators criticized him specifically for bringing a firearms charge that has a mandatory 10-year-minimum sentence, while also asking why Aldrete-Davila had been given immunity. Sutton was also asked why the jury in the agents' trial was not told about an alleged subsequent drug-smuggling offense by Aldrete-Davila.

Sutton has held firm that the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law. He stressed that Aldrete-Davila was unarmed and that the two agents had attempted to cover up the shooting.

In their letter to the president, Feinstein and Cornyn - both Judiciary Committee members - said the hearing had "confirmed the concerns raised by many members of the public: that this penalty levied on these agents is excessive and that they deserve the immediate exercise of your executive clemency powers."

"Ramos and Compean have now been in prison for more than six months," the letter continued. "Agent Ramos has been physically assaulted while serving his term and the agents' request to remain out of prison while their appeal was pending was denied by the Fifth Circuit. Both agents will remain incarcerated for many more months, even if their conviction is ultimately thrown out - unless action is taken quickly."

The woman who asked the president about the agents at the Nashville gathering said, "The Tennessee General Assembly passed a resolution, with 91 votes in the House and 30 in the Senate, asking our Tennessee delegation … to go to you asking for a pardon for these two men that were tried, where information was … kept back from their trial.

"And there's also a resolution in the House, H.R. 40, with a number of our Tennessee delegation signed on to that," the woman added. "Will you pardon these men that are unjustly imprisoned?"

Bush replied, "You've got a nice smile, but you can't entice me into making a public statement."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; compean; corruptbush; immigrantlist; invasionusa; johnnysutton; jorge; liarbush; ramos; ramosandcompean; traitorbush
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Hmm. Questioning the President... they must be traitors.
1 posted on 07/19/2007 6:39:53 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: fhlh

That is not nice to say. A few more stikes and zapp.


3 posted on 07/19/2007 6:48:48 PM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: Rodney King

Johnnie, you're doing a heck of a job.


4 posted on 07/19/2007 6:49:38 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Stallone

Bush suffers from ‘my friend’ syndrome.

From Harriet Miers, to Michael Brown, to Johnny Sutton, it is Bush’s most fatal political flaw.

He is a blind as a Democrat on the issue, and the base has left him out to wither and gray like an old maid.


5 posted on 07/19/2007 6:51:48 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Stallone

Don’t forget Gonzales, the worth of all of them.


6 posted on 07/19/2007 6:54:10 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King; Stallone

I meant “worst” not “worth”.


7 posted on 07/19/2007 6:55:50 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

I thought you had a lisp !!!


8 posted on 07/19/2007 7:00:43 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Rodney King
There is the answer. We have POLITICAL PRISONERS. Case closed
9 posted on 07/19/2007 7:01:03 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: Rodney King
"I know this is an emotional issue, but people need to look at the facts," he said. "These men were convicted by a jury of their peers after listening to the facts as my friend, Johnny Sutton, presented them. But anyway, no, I won't make you that promise."

Didn't stop him from cutting Scooter loose.
10 posted on 07/19/2007 7:02:01 PM PDT by Jarhead_22 (Oderint dum metuant.)
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To: Rodney King

Not only are they traitors, they are on the side of the Terrorists.


11 posted on 07/19/2007 7:03:57 PM PDT by Brakeman (America can do nothing for the Muslim world)
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To: Rodney King

Any pol or PAC that sends a postage-paid envelope to me gets it back with two stickers across the pledge form:
“PARDON Ramos, Compean & Hernandez” and “Where’s the Fence?” Recipients so far include McCain, Clinton, Emily’s List, RNC and Laura Bush. They’ll never know, but it’s theraputic.

Heard Dubya’s “dear friend” Sutton on Glenn Beck today. He’s a good talker, but I can’t be convinced it should be a jailable offense for any LEO to shoot a fleeing illegal alien dope smuggler, armed or not, in the a$$. Bush shot himself in the foot by embracing Sutton & his folly today.


12 posted on 07/19/2007 7:07:45 PM PDT by WestTexasWend (NO OIL FOR APPEASERS)
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To: WestTexasWend
but I can’t be convinced it should be a jailable offense for any LEO to shoot a fleeing illegal alien dope smuggler, armed or not, in the a$$

Either can I, or else all they have to do is turn their backs to the border agents and keep running.

13 posted on 07/19/2007 7:10:58 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
I like it!

Let's put together the definitive list of incompetents that Bush tolerated:

Freepers, fire at will!

Bush's Fatal Friendships 1. Harriet Miers 2. Alberto Gonzales 3. Michael Brown 4. Johnny Sutton 5. George Tenet ...

14 posted on 07/19/2007 7:14:35 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Rodney King
To: President George W. Bush (Dear frient of Johnny Sutton)

Please read up on the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case. I am sure he was a dear friend of someone, but he had an evil streak. The Border Patrol agents that Johnny Sutton persecuted are very dear friends to a lot of us.

From: A citizen outside of the Beltway - David Fglton ========================================================== PS: Perscurted is the correct usage in this case!

15 posted on 07/19/2007 7:15:01 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: Stallone

So far:

1. Harriet Miers
2. Alberto Gonzales
3. Michael Brown
4. Johnny Sutton
5. George Tenet

I’m thinking that Condi Rice has proved to be a huge disappointment.

6. Condi Rice


16 posted on 07/19/2007 7:19:14 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Rodney King

Bush is wrong. The border patrol agents should be freed. Having a drug smuggler testify was insane. This case stinks of cover up and drug dealer connections. We’ll never know the truth other than the border patrols agents are victims. Bush shouldn’t have defended Sutton and make him sound like his buddy. Anything to do with Mexico has priority over Americans with Bush.What is wrong with him? A drug dealer over law enforcement? Sutton over border security? I hope Bush sees the light and gets the agents out.
Can’t the congress get these agents out? Bush can’t be the only option.


17 posted on 07/19/2007 7:19:14 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: mefistofelerevised

You’re correct that Bush has a soft-spot for Mexico - it’s in his head.


18 posted on 07/19/2007 7:22:54 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Rodney King
No Pardon Promise for Ex-Border Patrol Agents

Surprise, surprise... Bush refuses to do anything that disappoints Mexico or illegal aliens in the US.

19 posted on 07/19/2007 7:29:22 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Stallone

The dismissive, jocular, arrogant tone of Signor Jorge New Tone is revolting. That it originates from unconscious incompetence is even more disgusting.

Bush, being no intellectual heavyweight, has a complete lack of comprehension of the implication of an open southern border. Our lives, our economy, our freedom, and our future are at stake.

Bush has sold America out.


20 posted on 07/19/2007 7:29:26 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Orange1998

What if I type it?

Bush is a pile of excrement....

In all seriousness, Bush has completely jumped off the deep end in regard to immigration and border enforcement (not to mention law enforcement).

Bush commutes his friend’s sentence (which I agree was the right thing to do, as Scooter was ramrodded on false charges), but will not give these border agents a pardon for DOING THEIR JOB.


21 posted on 07/19/2007 7:34:36 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Rodney King

Maybe they should have had Cheny shoot them in the face.


22 posted on 07/19/2007 7:36:16 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: Rodney King

Maybe they should have had Cheny shoot them in the face.


23 posted on 07/19/2007 7:36:17 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: Rodney King
re: Bush replied, "You've got a nice smile, but you can't entice me into making a public statement.")))

Good grief. It's not like she asked "boxers or briefs"--

24 posted on 07/19/2007 7:39:05 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Down with Mel Martinez)
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To: Rodney King

And Vicente Fox et.al. - they are the ones really wagging the Dog.


25 posted on 07/19/2007 7:42:38 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: fhlh

I agree. What a complete fool I was to believe in this guy. Now I’m just waiting for 2009. It can’t get here quick enough for me.


26 posted on 07/19/2007 8:18:58 PM PDT by packrat35 (PIMP my Senate. They're all a bunch of whores anyway!)
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To: Stallone

His disconnect from the American people is disturbing.


27 posted on 07/19/2007 8:38:12 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: Stallone

I actually don’t think that Brownie was all that bad. It wasn’t his job to rescue NO from their own idiocy and corruption, the media made that his job after the fact.


28 posted on 07/19/2007 8:51:43 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: All

My name is Mark and I have ADS - Arbusto Derangement Syndrome


29 posted on 07/19/2007 8:55:26 PM PDT by bugs_dallas
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To: Stallone
List...that Bush tolerated:

Tolerate? Bush actively promoted Sutton. Bush' message to Border Patrol: Don't mess with my amigos!(wetbacks)"

30 posted on 07/19/2007 8:58:52 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: fhlh

My feelings exactly.


31 posted on 07/19/2007 9:01:21 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Rodney King

Bush knows this is not right. He is acting like a dictator on this issue and the illegals issue. Why is he making us all suffer?


32 posted on 07/19/2007 9:03:02 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: mefistofelerevised

Sorry, I expect no amnesty for these Border Patrol agents from Bush. Amnesty is for foreigners only - remember, “See you at the bill signing!”


33 posted on 07/19/2007 10:03:02 PM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (i)
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To: Orange1998

Truth hurts?


34 posted on 07/20/2007 12:49:10 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (What would Beowulf do?)
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To: Stallone

7.) Our eternal friends, the Saudis.


35 posted on 07/20/2007 1:09:30 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Stallone
Chertoff and what was that other guy’s name. Brown? The one from FEMA. I think Chertoff is about as worthless as they come.
36 posted on 07/20/2007 1:21:34 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: NRA2BFree

And so it grows:

1. Harriet Miers
2. Alberto Gonzales
3. Michael Brown
4. Johnny Sutton
5. George Tenet
6. Condi Rice
7. Saudi Arabia
8. Michael Chertoff


37 posted on 07/20/2007 3:40:54 AM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Stallone

It runs in the family. Don’t forget his dad making buddy-buddy with the man who raped Juanita Broaddrick.


38 posted on 07/20/2007 4:09:51 AM PDT by Mmmike
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To: Jarhead_22
"Didn't stop him from cutting Scooter loose."

It pays to be the friend of the President. It is too bad these two border patrol agents are not among his list of friends.

39 posted on 07/20/2007 4:38:22 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: Vermont Lt
"Maybe they should have had Cheney shoot them in the face."

I nominate this as post of the year.

40 posted on 07/20/2007 4:43:08 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: Rodney King
Bush replied, "You've got a nice smile, but you can't entice me into making a public statement."

I'm as tired of his smart ass attitude as I am of his border policies.

41 posted on 07/20/2007 4:45:37 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze
"I'm as tired of his smart ass attitude as I am of his border policies."

It's good to finally see people waking up around here about Bush. I voted for him in 2000 but he lost my support the following year when he granted federal funds for human embryonic stem cell research. He showed his true colors then and there. I voted for Peroutka in 2004 since he was the only choice that I didn't have to hold my nose to vote for. There is no sense in voting for someone just because they are the lesser of two evils. Evil is still evil and will bite you in the butt in the long run.

42 posted on 07/20/2007 4:52:48 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: Rodney King

These two BP agents are LE officers. They shot a man in the back and tried to cover it up.Being a Drug dealer and being illegal is a fact, true, but cops shouldn’t shoot an unarmed man and then lie about it.We held clinton to the same standard, he was impeached for lying and trying to cover it up. I have had it with cops who think can do whatever they want with impunity.


43 posted on 07/20/2007 4:54:11 AM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: Stallone

Your intellect speaks loudly about your ability to make the statements herein.


44 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: eastforker
"...but cops shouldn’t shoot an unarmed man..."

How do you know he was an unarmed man? Did he say so? LOL!

45 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:57 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: SwordofTruth

So, you think Bush is evil? I do not agree with everything he does either but he is a long way from being evil, get a grip.


46 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:58 AM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: SwordofTruth

The BP agents even said he was unarmed.Yes he was running away, the BP agents shot him and tried to cover it up, is that what you want from LE?


47 posted on 07/20/2007 4:58:05 AM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: eastforker
"So, you think Bush is evil? I do not agree with everything he does either but he is a long way from being evil, get a grip."

I don't think he is evil, I know he is evil.

48 posted on 07/20/2007 4:58:20 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: SwordofTruth

Bush can’t be described as evil.

He is determined, stubborn, persistent, and for the decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, those are great traits.

But he is hopelessly naive, and lacks a coherent worldview.

If supporting our troops defending our freedom, what about defending our border agents defending our homeland?

If America fighting terrorism is a good thing, why condemn Israel for the same?

If protecting America is the rationale for the WOT, what about our porous borders? 6 years after 9/11 and no progress?

If cutting taxes to support our economy, what about cutting spending?

The list is just too long.

Bush ain’t it, by a mile.


49 posted on 07/20/2007 4:59:52 AM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Mumbles

There is the answer. We have POLITICAL PRISONERS. Case closed
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I have studied and pondered your post for almost two full seconds. After due consideration I reached the conclusion that your are spot on. I used the “spot on” phrase in hopes that it would carry a heavier literary weight than simply saying “correct”.


50 posted on 07/20/2007 5:09:53 AM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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