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To: ScaniaBoy

Hey, you would be most welcome on some of the threads we’ve been frequenting lately- your personal witness of the control freaks’ progression in Europe is valuable. And many Freepers are in denial.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868266/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868687/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1867786/posts


31 posted on 07/20/2007 4:13:38 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: ovrtaxt; ravingnutter
I glanced through some of them, but I have been pretty busy. May come back over the week-end.

However, I noticed one thing that may be of great importance. A lot of people started out with conspiracy theories. This is probably wrong, and it is definitely the wrong way to go about it. Again to compare with the EU, there were a few people (Monnet, Salter etc) who you could call conspirators (very successful too), but quite early on they lost the power over the “project”. It was driven by mainstream politicians who just did not understand where it would lead.

Who cares that the Rome declaration of 1957 talked about “ever closer union”? Just words, words, but in real politics things like lower customs, “industrial politics” etc, that’s the meat and potatoe of the politics. Howeer, the path had been set, and with further unenlightened decisions the rot set in - but only much later did it have an effect on most people. By then too many politicians and too much prestige had been involved......and to put it frnakly, even today most politicians, let alone ordinary people, understand exactly what power the EU wields.

Unfortunately, those few who understood where the Coal and Steel Union, the EEC etc would lead, just overstated their case early on. The few sane voices, like the British parliamentarian Enoch Powell was ostracized because of his views on immigration. (Later developments have shown that he was more right than wrong on that question as well.)

Try to analyze the consequences (economical, legal, constitutional) of a North American Union rather than ascribing them to some evil intent.

And remember just because it is not a conspiracy it may still be very bad politics. And vice versa, bad politics help put bad people in power.

34 posted on 07/20/2007 4:58:23 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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