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To: Rummenigge; DoughtyOne; uksupport1
In fact if england gave it’s seat to the EU it would be a honourable step away from colonialism - recognising human rights stand higher then british rights.

Colonialism. How cliche.

How many colonies do the British actually have these days? I believe the French still maintain quite a few.

Here’s a better idea. Let every European nation that invaded another sovereign European nation, without provocation, during the 20th Century sit down and STFU.


UK - wanna chime in?

76 posted on 08/02/2007 5:54:49 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

“Let every European nation that invaded another sovereign European nation, without provocation, during the 20th Century sit down and STFU.”

Gets my vote.


77 posted on 08/02/2007 6:04:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Imagine a nation with the history of Germany taking another nation to task over colonialism. I don’t remember Britain pledging to exterminate any races and other sub-categories and doing about half the job before being interrupted by force.

Honestly, how quickly some forget! And the idea that France should keep it’s seat and Britain should lose their’s is unconcionable.


78 posted on 08/02/2007 6:07:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Ok it’s a Cliché

As yous aid they don’t have any colonies these days and I guess they consider it part of their british attitude - make collonies companions.

So to ‘pool the seat’ would be an excellent fit into that developement.


80 posted on 08/03/2007 2:29:56 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Cheers GB.

RE: Colonialism. The British gave independence back to its colonies, something previous empires have been loathe to do and we have great relations with many of these nations that now form the Commonwealth. Britain’s colonialism was a product of the time: when most states in Europe attempted to aquire valuable overseas possessions. It’s not our fault we were better than the rest of Europe in capturing these territories and beating other Europeans who tried to sieze them/held other possessions.

With regards to this article, it’s all speculation at this stage. You have to bear in mind that Britain is the most Euro-sceptic nation in Europe (more so than even Poland). When I actually see an EU person representing Britain in the way speculated by the article, then I will be concerned. Bear in mind, though, that the Telegraph wrote a few months ago that the Royal Navy was going to be reduced in capabilities to the rough equivalent of a coast guard force. A couple of weeks ago, it was actually announced that it is getting two new aircraft carriers and the Telegraph article had been nothing but scare-mongering. It’s also in Hague’s interest to exaggerate the the proposed EU ‘menace’: he’s an opposition politician.

I any case, the British people would not stand to be superceded on the international stage. If this speculation actually occurs, then calls for a referendum in the UK will become unbeatable for the Brown government.


82 posted on 08/03/2007 3:41:27 AM PDT by uksupport1
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To: Grizzled Bear

No one asked for this wretched, corrupt, oppressive , arrogant, self serving monolith; the new Soviet Union.
No member of the UK public that is.

The EU has its own flag, currency, Parliament, Treasury, and Civil Service. Are all these things not the primary parts of a nation ?
It is beginning to resemble a tape worm; the more it consumes, the more it wants, the more the ‘little people’ try and rein it in (as in the May 2004 Referenda in France and Holland) the deafer it becomes.
I don’t particularly give a maggot’s toss what happens in France, Germany, or Italy - I have nothing against their populations, in fact I am fond of them in a lot of ways - but how can I spell it out here ? I AM NOT EUROPEAN.

I am a British Islander, an English nobody who works 5 days a week and only wants democratic representatives who will look out for MY interest; who will not jump into bed with the Brussels Whore as soon as they are elected.
I have asked this question literally hundreds of times before and no one has given me a straight and satisfactory answer : -
Please name me just ONE benefit that Britain has seen due to EU membership.

Ask small businesses who have been closed down by red tape.
Ask farmers who saw their healthy livestock killed in case they had foot and mouth.
Ask serving police officers who have their efforts to thwart crime and terrorism blocked by EU human rights laws.
Ask our Military now that the EU has forced them to take on openly gay, lesbian and transvestite personnel, not to mention practising Islamic officers who are allowed exemption from service in Iraq and Afganistan (more about that another time).
Ask native residents who are made to feel like second class citizens in their own land, because our own authorities cannot stop UMI (Uncontrolled Mass Immigration), again thanks to EU ‘freedom of movement’ crap.

The one and only answer people come up with is the feeble old one - ‘well, Europe has had peace since 1945’. That is true enough, but Europe has had nothing to do with it. Peace has been entirely due to America building up NATO and standing watch at Checkpoint Charlie for 45 years.

I have no time for empires, British or otherwise. I was born in 1965, nothing I can do about that I’m afraid.
I have no desire to poke my beak into the internal affairs of any othe nation ; all I ask is the same for mine.


83 posted on 08/03/2007 5:22:05 AM PDT by jabbermog
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