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Katrina Survivors Take Government to Court (Int'l Tribunal including Mexico--Unbelievable!!)
Vibe Magazine ^ | July 18, 2007 | Linda Hobbs

Posted on 07/20/2007 1:30:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It's been two years since Hurricane Katrina and Rita ripped through the belly of the South, and survivors, along with various scholars and activists, are seeking to hold the US government responsible in a tribunal court hearing scheduled for this August.

On Tuesday (July 17), New York City Councilman Charles Barron and former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney met at Manhattan's Center for Constitutional Rights for a press conference to discuss the upcoming trial. The tribunal will target President Bush, the US government, State of Louisiana, State of Mississippi, and various other agencies who were involved in the Katrina and Rita relief efforts.

The Tribunal will include a team of human and civil rights prosecutors, including Joan Gibbs from the Center of Law & Social Justice and Kali Akuno, from the Peoples Hurricane Relief Fund.

Overall, the Tribunal's main goal is holding the US government accountable for their reaction to the 2005 storms.

"Some people are being held accountable," said Former Congresswoman McKinney. "But what about [US Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff? I'm wondering why he still has a job!"

Councilman Barron believes potential Democratic leaders have not raised the issue enough. "We can't let Barack Obama and Hillary, and all these so-called Democrats, whisper about what happened with Katrina," he said. "America needs a revolution."

"I'm a survivor," said Viola Washington, in a thick New Orleans drawl. "I was there. We had racism, and a whole lot of -isms before the storm, but it don't excuse what happened during the storm. We had helicopters flying over the city and nobody came to help us. We were begging for help."

Like Washington, other survivors will give their testimonies during the hearing, detailing abusive and humiliating treatment during delayed relief efforts.

"They put me in a wilderness, in a place I never heard of in my life," another, graying survivor added.

When Katrina hit, that woman was raising her three grandchildren, after her daughter was murdered. "They [National Guard] were putting guns on you just to ask a question. This is America! It took us from Tuesday to Friday to get out of there," she said.

At the time, the woman owned her home. Her biggest concerned after the storm was returning to it. "But FEMA told me I was supposed to get back to my home or I'll lose my assistance," she said. "What am I supposed to do with three children?"

In addition to survivor testimonies, foreign nations have lent their support to the International Tribunal effort, including Cuba, Mexico, France, and Brazil.

The Mexican government released the following statement: "The Katrina disaster was a disaster organized by a political and economic system rooted in racism, exploitation and oppression. The massive deaths and human suffering could have been avoided were it not for the racism of the U.S. government at all levels."

The hearing will be held August 29 in New Orleans, marking the two-year anniversary of the hurricane tragedy.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
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The Mexican government released the following statement: "The Katrina disaster was a disaster organized by a political and economic system rooted in racism, exploitation and oppression. The massive deaths and human suffering could have been avoided were it not for the racism of the U.S. government at all levels."

If I wasn't for building a wall along our Southern border before, I would be after I read that unbelievable statement!!

1 posted on 07/20/2007 1:30:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Jim Robinson

You’ve got to read this!!


2 posted on 07/20/2007 1:31:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Charles barron...Isn’t he the @$$clown that said he wanted to walk up to a white man and slap the fecal matter out of him.

Barron and McKinney give credence for the use of euthanasia but at much earlier in life, like right now.

3 posted on 07/20/2007 1:40:44 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"It's been two years since Hurricane Katrina and Rita ripped through the belly of the South, and survivors, along with various scholars and activists, are seeking to hold the US government responsible..."

The US Government was NOT responsible for the hurricane, you morans. They were not responsible for the relief efforts either - the local communities and states didn't do their jobs.
4 posted on 07/20/2007 1:41:39 AM PDT by indcons (Please contribute to FreeRepublic; what would we do without this forum?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
""They put me in a wilderness, in a place I never heard of in my life," another, graying survivor added."

Note to graying survivor: Well, that's what happens when the only life you know is a welfare-addled, ghetto existence. Nobody prevented you or your fellow welfare queens from leaving that dump of 9th ward and making a life for yourself elsewhere in the state or the country.
5 posted on 07/20/2007 1:44:57 AM PDT by indcons (Please contribute to FreeRepublic; what would we do without this forum?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Katrina disaster was a disaster organized by a political and economic system rooted in racism, exploitation and oppression. The massive deaths and human suffering could have been avoided were it not for the racism of the U.S. government at all levels."

Now this I've got to agree with! Have you SEEN the way the US Government treats white folk these days?

6 posted on 07/20/2007 1:56:10 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: OKIEDOC
This is all election-cycle bloody-shirt wagging.
7 posted on 07/20/2007 1:56:56 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: The Duke

I’m a Katrina evacuee (not victim) from Biloxi, Mississippi, who now lives in Fort Worth. When I went to FEMA, both in Biloxi and here, they subtly but plainly let me know that white people can’t be Katrina “victims” so I was on my own. For awhile, I was in charge of one of the workforce offices that worked with NOLA evacuees, but never received assistance myself. If “Bush hates black people” he sure has a funny way of showing it. We were giving away: Target & Wal-Mart gift cards, laptop computers with Wi-Fi, food stamps, unemployment assistance, housing, TANF (welfare money), clothing, gasoline debit cards, bus passes, career counseling, etc.. We offered to bus them to huge job fairs, but there were few takers.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 1:57:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I agree, but does it help relations between the races in this country? Do we want civil strife or a race war?


9 posted on 07/20/2007 1:59:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not only do we need a wall, but we need to put land mines and alligators on it too. LOL
10 posted on 07/20/2007 2:04:46 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

say what.......
11 posted on 07/20/2007 2:16:13 AM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: indcons

You got it. They were told to leave and many just sat there and did nothing. Why did so many not buy flood insurance? And the Mayor bailed out on his people. Amazing.


13 posted on 07/20/2007 2:18:12 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But what about [US Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff? I'm wondering why he still has a job!"

I'm wondering that too, Cynthia. But it has nothing to do with Hurricane Katrina.

14 posted on 07/20/2007 2:20:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("There is nothing worse for power grabbing politicians than an energized electorate." Laura Ingraham)
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To: everyone

I feel compassion for these people, most of whom probably couldn’t find their way out of a paper bag. I’m not particularly interested in following their recovery or non-recovery from this disaster, but I do feel compassion.

I feel nothing but hatred for the ultra-ideologues, U.S. haters in our own country, who are using the New Orleans underclass in order to vilify our society and government — and advance the cause of world government.

I know the Mexican government isn’t our friend, but I sincerely hope this unserious magazine was misinformed when it said the “Mexican government” had made the horrific, almost insane statement quoted at the end.

Does any informed person know about this latter point?


15 posted on 07/20/2007 2:20:24 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: texastoo

The Republican candidates should get on this outrage, ASAP.


16 posted on 07/20/2007 2:21:26 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: texastoo
This is probably related to the BRussells tribunal movement... in which Conyers' buddy Francis Boyle of Hillary Clinton's home state of Illinois is involved, as is Ramsey Clark.

See:

JUNE 2003 end : (BERTRAND RUSSELL PEACE FOUNDATION CONFERENCE -- See BRUSSELS TRIBUNAL, 'WAR ON PNAC, CHENEY, RUMSFELD & WOLFOWITZ') It soon appeared that legal action was unlikely to succeed as the United States have consistently acted against any legal authority that would be liable to threaten them and still continue to do so. Hence the idea to set up a 'Moral Court' or 'People's Court' to condemn the new American policy as well as the think tanks behind it (the latter always remain beyond the grasp of legal action). A broad platform composed of several Belgian cultural organizations was created to carry out the petition's first proposal: to set up a Brussels Tribunal, after the historical example of the Russell Tribunal. At a networking conference set up by the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation at the end of June 2003 in Brussels it was decided that a series of hearings would be held in different places all over the world, culminating in a final session in Istanbul. The Brussels Tribunal was the official opening session of the has become the World Tribunal on Iraq and of wich ICTI an integral part.------"THE PEOPLE VERSUS TOTAL WAR INCORPORATED" LOOKING BACK TO THE BRUSSELLS TRIBUNAL (Yokohama-testimony, 5th ICTI hearing June 6th 2004)http://www.icti-e.com/Lieven%20De%20Cauter.html

17 posted on 07/20/2007 2:26:05 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: lentulusgracchus
It is really hard for me to believe that 50 years after Martin Luther King, the Black population suddenly feels like that our government owes them something extra.

The fomenter's of hate in their jihadists midsts are radical in all ways possible.

You can not always judge a book by it’s cover but in this case Barron and McKinney are nothing more than five and dime race baiting enablers and full of White hot hate.

Years ago words uttered by Barron and McKinney would have gotten them locked up or hung for their seditious nature.

There is, in my lowly opinion a small group of Blacks who are itching for a confrontation at all costs.

Race relations are now to settled in America and therefore do not pay good donations when things are working.

Same as with some Hispanics.

However, I see those two groups someday having an all out war between themselves.

The Blacks are not going to take having their entitlements messed with or endangered by a bunch of illegals claiming Constitutional rights.

Just my lowly opinion, what do you think FReepers?

18 posted on 07/20/2007 2:26:49 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: California Patriot
The Republican candidates should get on this outrage, ASAP.

Somebody should get on this. Otherwise it looks like anyone who wants can set up court. ' My congress critters will hear about this tomorrow.l

19 posted on 07/20/2007 2:26:56 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Mexican government released the following statement: "The Katrina disaster was a disaster organized by a political and economic system rooted in racism, exploitation and oppression. The massive deaths and human suffering could have been avoided were it not for the racism of the U.S. government at all levels."

And after all George Bush has done for them! What a bunch of ingrates!

(Ol' George is the number one candidate for the Don't-Bite-the-Hand-That's-Feeding-You Award.)

20 posted on 07/20/2007 2:27:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("There is nothing worse for power grabbing politicians than an energized electorate." Laura Ingraham)
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To: piasa; hedgetrimmer; Czar; nicmarlo; Borax Queen; gubamyster

Thanks for the article. No, I didn’t know about it. I didn’t think we were subject to the internation courts but he!! so much goes on behind our backs that we don’t know.


22 posted on 07/20/2007 2:34:33 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Savage Beast
And after all George Bush has done for them! What a bunch of ingrates!

It is just not enough. George would want you to give more and more. By the way, what happened to the millions that Clinton and PaPa Bush collected after Katrina?

24 posted on 07/20/2007 2:39:49 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: OKIEDOC
Charles barron...Isn’t he the @$$clown that said he wanted to walk up to a white man and slap the fecal matter out of him.

And is a "former" Black Panther who supports voting rights for illegal immigrants, who denies any form of racism against whites (ignoring early discimination against Irish and Jews), and has encouraged riots by African Americans if high-profile cases regarding the use of force by police did not have results which suited him.

And McKinney -- the former congressthing that evaded a security checkpoint, then claimed the security officer who stopped her hit her, then apologized, then barely avoided a civil suit by the officer (who had more class).

McKinney -- the congressional has-been that employed members of the New Black Panthers, who blamed the Jews for her defeat, who wrote to the Saudis about Israel's "inappropriate" response to terrorism.

At some point, these people seem to lose all sense of shame in their efforts to gain support through encouraging the victimization mentality. This is just a "grab-the-spotlight" ploy, and since it won't wash in the U.S., these two have enlisted support from countries which are either openly hostile to the U.S. or are hoping a little cash will flow their way.

25 posted on 07/20/2007 2:41:38 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Czar; nicmarlo; Borax Queen; gubamyster

Check out post #17.


26 posted on 07/20/2007 2:42:43 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Aw, Jeez... (you know the rest)


27 posted on 07/20/2007 2:55:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Without the fence, deporting illegals is like shoveling water.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess they want more money to blow at the casinos. The idea that the federal government was racist when handling Katrina has always been nonsense.

"Progressive" blacks are idiots and the majority of them are militant racist. We shouldn't bother to give them the time of day.
28 posted on 07/20/2007 3:00:42 AM PDT by Jaysun (Certified thread hijacker since 7-7-07 (by restornu and blu))
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To: texastoo

The Bush’s have taken their legendary good will and politesse to a sufficient extreme for it to have become a nemesis. In fact, they passed the nemesis point a long time ago—especially regarding Mexico—and U.S. Leftist politicians.


29 posted on 07/20/2007 3:01:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("There is nothing worse for power grabbing politicians than an energized electorate." Laura Ingraham)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the true victims of katrina are the US Taxpayers....the so called victims were poor before the storm and still are after the storm...

they have glommed the system as people opened their hearts and wallets with charity and support....as did jorge bush and the congress.....

after all that has been spent/wasted.....these victims want demand more....an endless annuity with no end in sight...charity begins at home but at some point God helps those that will help themselves!!!!

30 posted on 07/20/2007 3:05:48 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I'm a survivor," said Viola Washington, in a thick New Orleans drawl. "I was there. We had racism, and a whole lot of -isms before the storm, but it don't excuse what happened during the storm. We had helicopters flying over the city and nobody came to help us. We were begging for help."

I got a box of doughnuts here says that without even setting eyes on a picture of her, everyone reading the above knows exactly what Ms. Viola Washington of New Orleans looks like.

31 posted on 07/20/2007 3:21:53 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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...seeking to hold the US government responsible...

Well, yeah. Rove made a hurricane with his weather machine. Anyone who believes the federal government is responsible for a hurricane, should be institutionalized. If anyone was responsible for the infrastructure in New Orleans failing, it's the corrupt local politicians and bureaucrats, who are all Democrats. New Orleans was one of the most corrupt places in the country. No wonder they couldn't make levees that could hold.

32 posted on 07/20/2007 3:22:36 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Step 1: Grind up baby. Step 2: smear on stretch marks. Step 3: two problems solved! Be happy!)
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The Mexican government released the following statement

No, it didn't.

That was one Luis Vasquez, speaking on behalf of the Independent Democratic Workers Party of Mexico, which appears to be a fringe communist party. source

33 posted on 07/20/2007 3:26:04 AM PDT by Hoplite
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We had racism, and a whole lot of -isms before the storm, but it don't excuse what happened during the storm. We had helicopters flying over the city and nobody came to help us. We were begging for help."

The 82nd Airborne, the entire Coast Guard rotary rescue fleet, 1st Army, the SeaBees, scores of Navy rescue helicopters, hundreds of Air Force aircraft, the Army Corps of Engineers, two Marine Expeditionary Units, the Air Force east coast Contingency Response Wing, thousands of volunteers, Defense Logistics Agency, and dozens of other agencies came to their aid.

The problem is, many of the people everyone came to help were dysfunctional, lazy, and ungrateful.

I know, I was there working recovery 3 days after landfall.


34 posted on 07/20/2007 3:30:33 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: texastoo
By the way, what happened to the millions that Clinton and PaPa Bush collected after Katrina?

The same thing that happened to the millions that Clinton and PaPa Bush collected after that tsunami a few years back. (You know, where most of the victims were Muslim but nearly all the relief aid came from us western infidels?)

35 posted on 07/20/2007 3:31:58 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: nyyankeefan
after all that has been spent/wasted.....these victims want demand more....an endless annuity with no end in sight...

"Reparations" anyone?

36 posted on 07/20/2007 3:36:23 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: texastoo
Thank you. I was wondering that myself! What the heck is a tribunal and what legal standing in the United States of America does it hold? I’ve heard lots of talk about tribunals from online libs in the recent past and this stinks to high heaven.

To the ‘graying evacuee’ there were warnings to get out before the storm, the city didn’t put their emergency plan in motion, all those who stayed behind knew it would take several days for help to get to them....

Other hurricane places they tell you if you choose not to leave...you are on your own and no one else is responsible for your sorry butt!

Enough is Enough already! You saw how well your mayor loved his chocolate city...keep your racism slander to yourselves!

37 posted on 07/20/2007 3:42:27 AM PDT by EBH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“”I’m a survivor,” said Viola Washington, in a thick New Orleans drawl.”

Okay, right off the bat the reporter is making things up. There no such animal as a “thick New Orleans drawl”. I suppose the claims made in the rest of the article are as accurate. HAH!


38 posted on 07/20/2007 3:51:40 AM PDT by Mila
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"Okay, right off the bat the reporter is making things up. There no such animal as a “thick New Orleans drawl”.

Well, the reporter is probably a Yankee, to whom any Southern accent is a "thick drawl". But some parts of NO definitely have their own distinct accents (and yes, I'm from Louisiana with kinfolk in NO)--some of them quite different from "Southernese". The "Ninth Ward" accent sounds more like Brooklynese than Southern.

39 posted on 07/20/2007 4:11:47 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
career counseling, etc.. We offered to bus them to huge job fairs, but there were few takers.

Career counseling??? Now that's a hoot, when your "career" is that of a loathsome freeloader.

40 posted on 07/20/2007 4:16:02 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (dontvoteincumbent.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2nd division vet, in my previous post, I should have used “their “career”. I was in no way, implying “your”. You, as stated, work for a living.


41 posted on 07/20/2007 4:21:41 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (dontvoteincumbent.com)
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No problem, I knew what you were referencing.

There is a permanent underclass in this country now, with poverty pimps like Jesse Jackson, John Edwards, Barack Hussein Obama, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Al Sharpton, and thousands more using them for their own gain. This underclass has been trained not to be self-sufficient, told to breed as many offspring as possible, shown that working is stupid and that Uncle Sugar owes them a living. We knew that Hurricane was coming many days in advance. If the people of New Orleans that were without transportation had started walking on the day the were first warned, they’d have made it to Arkansas before Katrina hit! Most of the NOLA Katrina “victims” are still on Federal assistance TWO YEARS LATER!! Can anyone show me a similar situation in American history?

42 posted on 07/20/2007 4:36:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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“Other hurricane places they tell you if you choose not to leave...you are on your own and no one else is responsible”

Yes, they do....they told us that everytime a storm approaches. We have evacuated three times because we live on the water, (though some of our neighbors have not.)

The order comes from the County Emergency Management team. I guess they don’t have that in Louisana.


43 posted on 07/20/2007 4:42:17 AM PDT by jch10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s so much questionable about this article and topic that I am bookmarking this to come back later and try...try to understand what the “H” this really is about.


44 posted on 07/20/2007 4:43:24 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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"We offered to bus them to huge job fairs, but there were few takers."

They had job fairs for the "evacuees" at the Astrodome where over 50,000 evacuees were housed. The sign up list gathered about 300 names. Now many of those "evacuees" are in temporary Section 8 housing and two of those Section 8s are right down the road from me. They just got a FEMA extenstion all the way to March 2009. Not 2008, but 2009! Most of the "evacuees" have new cars and life is good once again. The Liberal Plantation is in full swing: raping, robbing, and murdering has jumped in my area.

Unemployment in Houston is 3.8% yet these "evacuees" remain unemployed. It's frikin' disgusting!

45 posted on 07/20/2007 4:54:47 AM PDT by avacado
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Casinos Boom in Katrina’s Wake as Cash Pours In
46 posted on 07/20/2007 4:58:37 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Savage Beast
"Some people are being held accountable," said Former Congresswoman McKinney. "But what about [US Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff? I'm wondering why he still has a job!"

Wasn't MICHAEL BROWN, director of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina? I know this woman is an absolute idiot but she just continues to prove time and time again.

48 posted on 07/20/2007 5:03:50 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Forget bombing Iran, Nuke Mexico.
49 posted on 07/20/2007 5:22:40 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Hoplite
Thanks - good catch -

That comment in the article leapt out as something no sovereign gov't would say about its neighbor...

50 posted on 07/20/2007 6:26:21 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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