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Senate tells Bush not to pardon Libby
Associated Press (excerpt) ^ | July 20, 2007 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

Posted on 07/20/2007 1:14:47 PM PDT by HAL9000

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WASHINGTON - A brawl over presidential pardons punctured the normally courtly ambiance of the Senate on Thursday night, but Republicans and Democrats agreed to bury the hatchet and erase the evidence before the sun rose Friday.

In the heat of a partisan spat, Democrats forced a vote on a nonbinding measure to instruct President Bush not to pardon former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. But there's no record of the 47-49 vote in the daily record of congressional proceedings — or anywhere else.

That's because senators agreed less than an hour later to undo their vote and pretend it had never happened.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; demorats; dinghyharry; govwatch; libby; pardon; pardons; senate; traitorousdemorats; ussenate
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1 posted on 07/20/2007 1:14:51 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

If I were Bush I’d pardon him today!


2 posted on 07/20/2007 1:15:44 PM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: HAL9000

They don’t get a vote on the matter.


3 posted on 07/20/2007 1:16:18 PM PDT by Dog ("Nothing important happened today." - from the diary of Englandís King George III, July 4, 1776)
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To: HAL9000

I’d love to see the tally on this vote versus the those who voted admonishing clinton against the marc rich pardon...


4 posted on 07/20/2007 1:17:03 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: HAL9000
Every day the Senate is looking more and more like a Monty Python skit and less like a governing body.

UNRING THE BELL!!

5 posted on 07/20/2007 1:17:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's Georgre Galloway?)
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To: HAL9000

wow, I guess someone in the senate figured out they do not have the authority to tell him who he can pardon and not pardon.


6 posted on 07/20/2007 1:17:26 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: HAL9000

All growed up, aren’t they?


7 posted on 07/20/2007 1:17:28 PM PDT by freespirited (What part of Kennedy do they not understand? -- Gov. Mike Huckabee)
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To: HAL9000

It’s getting stir-crazy in Congress these days!


8 posted on 07/20/2007 1:17:43 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: HAL9000

Ok......Cheney can pardon him TOMORROW! Now THAT would be FUNNY!! Heads exploding everywhere!


9 posted on 07/20/2007 1:18:03 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: HAL9000
Congress can't tell a President whom to pardon or not. Its an executive prerogative beyond legislative review. And its also a violation of the clear separation of powers between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 07/20/2007 1:18:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: HAL9000

Not that it matter to them, but I didnt think they had the power to change the congressional record.


11 posted on 07/20/2007 1:19:15 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: HAL9000

Maybe the Senate should fund our troops first...


12 posted on 07/20/2007 1:19:17 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: HAL9000

Did they count the undervotes, pregnant chads and hanging chads? What about my old college roomate Chad? Lake Chad? the nation of Chad? what about undertows? underdogs? underwear? I suppose that depends on who’s running the show...

sorry...it’s friday afternoon...


13 posted on 07/20/2007 1:19:59 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: HAL9000

Check me if I am wrong but was it not the legislative branch that gave the Executive branch the right to pardons and sentence commutations.


14 posted on 07/20/2007 1:20:44 PM PDT by ping jockey (We have arrogant jerks for leaders and WE will pay the highest cost.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
"Ok......Cheney can pardon him TOMORROW! Now THAT would be FUNNY!! Heads exploding everywhere!"

Now that would be funny! I would have to camp out with popcorn over at DU & Kos Land for that.

15 posted on 07/20/2007 1:20:53 PM PDT by avacado
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To: HAL9000

Have you EVER-—!!!
No really. Has this ever happened before? I can’t think of a historical precedent.


16 posted on 07/20/2007 1:21:19 PM PDT by Graymatter (FRederalist)
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To: HAL9000

The President’s pardoning authority is ABSOLUTE........


17 posted on 07/20/2007 1:21:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Suzy Quzy

I’d give $200. to see Cheney pardon him tomorrow - in the Rose Garden on TV, with Cheney carrying a shotgun.


18 posted on 07/20/2007 1:21:31 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: goldstategop
And its also a violation of the clear separation of powers between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.

The rats have shown a complete disregard for that little detail. They are in a frenzy to try and influence W in any way they can.

19 posted on 07/20/2007 1:21:43 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: goldstategop

WEll, you know that and I know that - now somebody please go in and tell the senators that.


20 posted on 07/20/2007 1:22:13 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

120 minutes of Cheney! Please God he writes three pardons and gets all unilateral on the Southern Border.


21 posted on 07/20/2007 1:22:29 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: HAL9000
But there's no record of the 47-49 vote in the daily record of congressional proceedings — or anywhere else.

It was an unvote by an uncongress.

22 posted on 07/20/2007 1:22:47 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ping jockey
Check me if I am wrong but was it not the legislative branch that gave the Executive branch the right to pardons and sentence commutations.

No, it was the Constitutional Convention. The founding fathers did it.........for good reason......

23 posted on 07/20/2007 1:23:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: HAL9000
OK everyone, it never happened! /sarc
24 posted on 07/20/2007 1:23:22 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: HAL9000

Bush should call a prime time press conference and SELL Scooter a pardon for $20 and use the 20 to send out for pizza, and tell every demokkkrat in the world to go **** themselves.


25 posted on 07/20/2007 1:24:02 PM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Suzy Quzy

And Ramos and Campeon, too! And get rid of Mookie & Olmert!
He’s got a 2 1/2 hr. window. Use it!


26 posted on 07/20/2007 1:24:15 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: HAL9000
"If the Senate has decided to go into debating the appropriateness of future pardons, there is plenty of material to go around on past pardons," said Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., the minority leader.

Read about this in another article, which had more detail.

McConnell then "proceeded to maneuver the Senate clerk into reading off the laundry list of Clinton administration pardons, including those of Marc Rich and others." It referred to Harry Reid getting "Mitchslapped."

27 posted on 07/20/2007 1:24:22 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: ping jockey
You're wrong.

L

28 posted on 07/20/2007 1:24:26 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: freespirited

It’s all being orchestrated by Move-On, the Senate Democrats are so afraid of them that they put their limited -—ah never mind.


29 posted on 07/20/2007 1:24:50 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: HAL9000
Senate erases Libby pardon vote from record
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19873167/

There, it’s erased because MSNBC says so.

30 posted on 07/20/2007 1:25:37 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: HAL9000

Talk about ignorance of the separation of powers.

Have these morons ever READ the Constitution.


31 posted on 07/20/2007 1:26:08 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: HAL9000
This happened right after Dingy Harry got Mitchslapped.

No wonder he wanted the record erased. :)

32 posted on 07/20/2007 1:26:24 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (But westward, look, the land is bright!)
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To: HAL9000

One Two slam dunk!

Pardon the two border agents proudly and then Libby— immediately!


33 posted on 07/20/2007 1:26:26 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: HAL9000
“With that, the Senate got back down to business and completed the education bill in the wee hours of Friday morning.”
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Conclusion...Senate accomplishes nothing other than making government “grab-bag” bigger, thus creating more government theft, paid for by...you guessed it, Joe Taxpayer.
34 posted on 07/20/2007 1:26:41 PM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (The U.S. Constitution has been Reduced to a Meaningless Document.)
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To: ping jockey

No, it’s the Constitution.


35 posted on 07/20/2007 1:26:50 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: ping jockey
Check me if I am wrong but was it not the legislative branch that gave the Executive branch the right to pardons and sentence commutations.

Wrong.

It wasn't given by the legislative branch at all but by Article II, section 2 of Old Faithful.

36 posted on 07/20/2007 1:27:12 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: HAL9000
For more laughs, read this account of the day's Mitchslapping.
37 posted on 07/20/2007 1:29:14 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: dead
It was an unvote by an uncongress.

Who voted for it before they voted against it?

38 posted on 07/20/2007 1:29:25 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: HAL9000

Erase a pointless vote, on a matter they don’t control about a future event.

Jeez, oh how I love Congress. I’m really glad they’re up there looking out for us.


39 posted on 07/20/2007 1:29:37 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Every day the Senate is looking more and more like a Monty Python skit and less like a governing body.


40 posted on 07/20/2007 1:31:29 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: dead

You gotta love the AP.

They couldn’t say Clinton pardoned terrorists if their life depended on it.

They called them a Puerto Rican nationalist group, not what they were, terrorists.


41 posted on 07/20/2007 1:31:39 PM PDT by JRochelle (Vacant Lott needs to be evicted from the Senate.)
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To: HAL9000

Funny, I don’t recall the Senate telling Clinton not to pardon terrorists, thieves and thugs. It seems to me that Bush commuting one person’s sentence (Libby) for whom the fundemental investigation could discover no perpetrators is not a big deal.

When a judge dismisses the lawsuit of the alleged “victim” because there was no “there” there, it is appropriate for Bush to commute or even pardon Libby.

Reid and the rest of the defeatocrat-run Senate need something more to occupy their time than a 100% full court press of BDS.


42 posted on 07/20/2007 1:31:47 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: HAL9000

We have entered a new political age: The Political Theatre of the Absurd


43 posted on 07/20/2007 1:32:12 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq -- via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: HAL9000

Meanwhile, Bush told the Senate to mind their own bidness.


44 posted on 07/20/2007 1:33:58 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: mware
I recall a number of stories during the Reagan era about 'critters changing their remarks in the Congo Record.

Changing a recorded "vote" is a new one, though.

45 posted on 07/20/2007 1:34:39 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Suzy Quzy
Drinking Coffee
That would certainly jerk a knot in the tail of the party of jackasses.
46 posted on 07/20/2007 1:35:35 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct.)
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To: HAL9000

I wasn’t aware that the congress had any say in matters of presidential pardons.


47 posted on 07/20/2007 1:38:55 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: HAL9000

courtly ambiance?

Seems like the senate suffers some serious case of beltway disease (aka upward crania rectal insertion syndrome)

They are not there to be courtly and elitist, they are there as EMPLOYEES.


48 posted on 07/20/2007 1:40:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Calvin Locke
I know they can strike comments from the record, but never heard of this kind of thing happening.
49 posted on 07/20/2007 1:41:26 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Best comment I can remember seeing on FR.


50 posted on 07/20/2007 1:43:14 PM PDT by MarkT
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