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Old missile launcher found near NYC
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Posted on 07/20/2007 4:03:18 PM PDT by Hi Heels

Old missile launcher found near NYC Fri Jul 20, 3:11 PM ET

JERSEY CITY, N.J. - An old anti-tank missile launcher was found Friday on a lawn in Jersey City, just across the river from lower Manhattan.

The launcher was inoperable and posed no hazard, police said. They turned it over to Army officials at Fort Monmouth.

Army personnel identified the yard-long tube as an AT-4 anti-tank missile launcher, said fort spokesman Timothy Rider. Such launchers can only be used once to fire a missile, and soldiers determined that this launcher had been fired, he said.

"It can never be reloaded, but it still has the mechanism that can be useful for training," Rider said, explaining that soldiers can learn to carry it on their shoulder and take aim.

Police and Army officials are investigating how the device ended up on the lawn. Officials said it appeared to be about 20 years old.


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Now THERE'S something to find on your lawn one morning....
1 posted on 07/20/2007 4:03:20 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: Hi Heels

I was wondering why the neighborhood fireworks were especially loud this year.


2 posted on 07/20/2007 4:12:47 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Hi Heels
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Such launchers can only be used once to fire a missile, and soldiers determined that this launcher had been fired, he said.

if the tube is EMPTY... that should be their FIRST clue that it's spent. it's pretty much a given, no determination necessary.

3 posted on 07/20/2007 4:21:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Westlander
Army personnel identified the yard-long tube as an AT-4 anti-tank missile launcher

What the heck, a yard long tube...my 4th of July launcher is 36" long as well

4 posted on 07/20/2007 4:28:56 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...temporarily out of service ....()
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To: Hi Heels

Media hysteria machine in action. Once again, they had to rescind a previous jump into ‘conclusionville’.

Damn drama queens.


5 posted on 07/20/2007 4:29:46 PM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: Hi Heels

If I recall, the AT-4 waas Swedish-made, and consisted of a launcher and an 84mm (some say this is where it got it’s designation, from the size of the warhead) High-explosive-anti-tank (HEAT), shaped charge round, and had a range of 1,000 meters. The US Marine Corps (and the IDF) referred to the AT-4 as “the Bunker Buster”.

If it was found on a lawn in New Jersey directly across from Manhattan, it was most definitely found in a spot which sits astride, or dead-on, the flight path to Newark (Liberty) International Airport.

Perhaps some of our Muslim friends in Jersey City (where they are legion) training for a potential attack on an aircraft?

Something to look into, i should say....


6 posted on 07/20/2007 4:29:55 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Chode

LOL! Succinct as usual.


7 posted on 07/20/2007 4:30:17 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Wombat101

P.S. That is NOT to say that this does have a terrorism angle, just that it is a possibility.

It’s also quite possible that someone brought this home as a souvenir from a Reserve weekend or something and just decided to ditch it, or forgot about it.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 4:32:02 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

‘my 4th of July launcher is 36” long’

Does it take the rest of the year to reel it back in your Dockers?


9 posted on 07/20/2007 4:35:45 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Hi Heels

Sorry! Just a pile of “Faulty Wiring”, move along.


10 posted on 07/20/2007 4:40:49 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Chode
Spent LAWS launchers are a dime a dozen, so I don’t see where this is any different. Somebody is starving for a story.
11 posted on 07/20/2007 4:44:32 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Hi Heels; Brad's Gramma; Fiddlstix; BurbankKarl; RonDog; DoughtyOne
Hi Heels wrote: "Now THERE'S something to find on your lawn one morning...."

Some alternate sub-headlines:

12 posted on 07/20/2007 4:46:33 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Westlander

LOL, good one


13 posted on 07/20/2007 4:48:50 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...temporarily out of service ....()
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To: oyez

(Spent LAWS launchers are a dime a dozen, so I don’t see where this is any different. Somebody is starving for a story)

Please tell me that was sarcasm.


14 posted on 07/20/2007 4:55:27 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: Hi Heels

Used AT-4’s and LAWS’s are not considered munitions, and may be ordered through the mail by anyone. Bit of a non-story.


15 posted on 07/20/2007 5:05:25 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You can't strengthen a zero, it will always equal zero." --Avigdor Lieberman)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Hi Heels; mirkwood
Used AT-4’s and LAWS’s are not considered munitions, and may be ordered through the mail by anyone.

Correct. They contain no explosive or propellant. They are not considered to be a weapon by the BATF.

There are places online where you can buy a spent LAWS. I owned one of these when I was a kid, which was brought back from Vietnam by a friend's father. Looks like they are now collector's items worth hundreds of dollars. I'll have to see if it's in my old closet at Mom's house.

-ccm

16 posted on 07/20/2007 5:50:19 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: oyez
Image hosted by Photobucket.comyup...
17 posted on 07/20/2007 6:16:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: mirkwood

About starving for a news story?


18 posted on 07/20/2007 6:40:23 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Hi Heels
I grew up in the 50s and 60s. We had all sorts of WWII junk to play with: Gas maskes, dummy bazooka rockets, dummy mortar shells, belts of spent machine gun brass, and so on. Nobody came unglued when we went through the neighborhood in squad file bristling with really cool ordnance. Of course, all of that stuff was given to us by adults who had a grip on reality.

How come people of today are are so stupid?

19 posted on 07/20/2007 6:40:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: mirkwood
Please tell me that was sarcasm.

I don't think it was. Your perspective stems from lack of knowledge. Empty LAW launchers are not even slightly dangerous. In the 50s and 60s, we got to play with dummy WWII ordnance without ignorant adults getting into a panic. We had bazooka rockets, mortar shells, field telephones, you name it. We had great fun, and nobody got hurt because this stuff isn't dangerous. In this day and age, only stupid and ignorant people are the real dangers.

20 posted on 07/20/2007 6:44:03 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Empty LAW launchers are not even slightly dangerous.

BS.

You can really pinch a finger when you collapse the launcher back into its carry configuration.

= )

21 posted on 07/20/2007 7:09:34 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: ccmay

That’s a piece of history. If you have one, I’d hold on to it.


22 posted on 07/20/2007 8:27:14 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You can't strengthen a zero, it will always equal zero." --Avigdor Lieberman)
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To: Hi Heels
Hey, some people have pink flamingos.....
23 posted on 07/20/2007 8:28:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Hoplite

Why do I hear Irwin Mainway saying that?


24 posted on 07/20/2007 8:30:35 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You can't strengthen a zero, it will always equal zero." --Avigdor Lieberman)
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To: bd476

I find it curious that when they find an inert tube it is a huge story, yet when a pilot and copilot leaving LAX describe to an air traffic controller a missile flying past their plane....it is buried.


25 posted on 07/21/2007 12:41:56 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Hoplite
You can really pinch a finger...

Yikes! I clearly remember that now! ;-D

26 posted on 07/21/2007 4:03:54 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Hoplite

As if they let pancake cookers even touch such things, Jihad-lover!


27 posted on 07/27/2007 7:45:18 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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