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Gay youth worker was discriminated against [by church that wouldn't hire him], UK tribunal rules
Church Times [Church of England] ^ | July 20, 2007 | Simon Sarmiento

Posted on 07/20/2007 7:57:56 PM PDT by freedomdefender

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This is coming to America, if Hillary wins. Churches that try to uphold their principles will be punished.
1 posted on 07/20/2007 7:57:58 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

It was likely a set up, in my book.

I’d bet he applied for that job and deceived his employer just to set precedent and get the laws changed.


2 posted on 07/20/2007 8:01:30 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NYer; WKB

ping


3 posted on 07/20/2007 8:01:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: freedomdefender

So, why didn’t he look for a church that would accept him as a youth worker (with his particular proclivities) … there are many out there.


4 posted on 07/20/2007 8:03:09 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: freedomdefender

What the homosexual lobby in the USA has been desperate to cover up and obfuscate is that the so-called “abuse” scandals of the Catholic Church have been overwhelmingly GAY PRIESTS HITTING ON TEENAGE BOYS scandal.

Yes, it is terribly abusive behavior, but the politically correct leftists have been desperate to try to define it as “child abuse” and “pedophile” behavior so that people assume it is just a tiny tiny segment of pedophiles going after under-11-year-olds.

In reality, it is more typical “gay” fantasy behavior of hitting upon adolescent males, ages 12 - 16. THAT is what they don’t want us to know, because then people would realize that gay males should NOT be put in any positions of trust around adolescent males!!


5 posted on 07/20/2007 8:07:56 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: freedomdefender

So it begins...


6 posted on 07/20/2007 8:17:45 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Wait till Hillary’s in the White House. “Hate crime” laws will be directed against orthodox Christians, I fear.


7 posted on 07/20/2007 8:21:43 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Soon we’ll have to start meeting in homes and NOT calling it “church.” No denominations, no hierarchy, no official lists of members for gays to sue.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 8:22:05 PM PDT by madison10
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To: freedomdefender

Gay fascism.

Its amazing how a tiny minority of weirdos can force their disgusting lifestyle on others in the name of “tolerance.”


9 posted on 07/20/2007 8:25:34 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: freedomdefender

The tolerant, diverse left hates the truth.

If the gays aren’t interested in kids, then why do they always want so much access to children?

This stuff is just around the corner in the US, as soon as the homos and the ADL get the hate crime legislation passed.

I predict riots.


10 posted on 07/20/2007 8:41:13 PM PDT by Western Wa Independent Voter (Banned by the tolerant, diverse left)
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“Soon we’ll have to start meeting in homes and NOT calling it “church.” “

That’s what they did in Ireland when the King declared himself to be the head of the church in England. They tried to stamp out all other churches. The Irish Catholics used to meet on a hillside. They called them “hedge churches”, and they always had a lookout who would warn them of the approach of the English police or soldiers. Then they all dispersed.

Get out your running shoes!


11 posted on 07/20/2007 8:42:20 PM PDT by MondoQueen
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To: freedomdefender

There’s something more to this story. This Bishop is not unfriendly to homosexuals or transgenders, but he has stood against church blessings of their relationships. The organist at his cathedral is gay and soon to have a civil ceremony. Read link 2.
According to link 1 he ordained a transexual.

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3032

http://www.herefordjournal.com/news/publish/article_17498.php


12 posted on 07/20/2007 9:03:19 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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Yep, there are plenty of examples in Canada and abroad of how the leftist use these non-discrimination laws and hate speech laws to attack Christians. That is the main objective of these laws is to force acceptance of homosexual behavior down the throats of Christians. It is almost always Christians following their beliefs who get prosecuted by these laws.


13 posted on 07/20/2007 9:04:04 PM PDT by Always Right
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This one ranks right up there with Liberace winning a slander judgment against a UK publication which suggested he was gay. I think he was awarded the equivalent of about $US600K. I don’t know if there was ever any payment - and, if there was, whether the publication sued his estate to recover.

As far as the immediate story is concerned - I guess the $US660M that the LA Archdiocese just shelled out wasn’t a clear enough message.

14 posted on 07/20/2007 10:18:52 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: Western Wa Independent Voter

Just the other day, I heard a guy say that he had about all the tolerance that he could take...


15 posted on 07/20/2007 10:31:04 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Coming to a Church near you soon, Baptist ping.
16 posted on 07/21/2007 2:39:28 AM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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I don’t know what the rules are in England, but isn’t the Queen nominally head of the Church of England, its chief defender...doesn’t this decision in a sense declare the queen a bigot?


17 posted on 07/21/2007 4:55:03 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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The bad news is that God discriminates against this perverted lifestyle CHOICE. An arrogant pervert has no business working for ANY church.


18 posted on 07/21/2007 10:44:29 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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> This is coming to America, if Hillary wins. Churches that try to uphold their principles will be punished.

Please remind me why Gays should be discriminated against...? Where in the Constitution does it say...?

I am not Gay, I do not understand or approve of the Gay lifestyle but in my books what someone does in the privacy of their own bedroom is of no concern of mine or yours or the gummints or the Church’s or anybody else’s.

Moreover, if Gays choose to publicly identify themselves as Gay I have no problem with that either. At all. And if they choose to assert their human rights, so long as it is legally viable for them to do so, they have my full unswerving support. That is what a Constitution is for.

Moreover, if somebody chooses to attack a publicly Gay person I will fight to defend them. Physically and shedding blood, if necessary: and it will not worry me in the slightest.

That is what my Forefathers stormed ashore at Dieppe and Normandie for: the right to fight bigots at any and every opportunity.

If Gay people go to Church to pray forgiveness for their sins (which are many), I will pay absolutely no attention to them: I have plenty of sins of my own to repent for.

Being Gay is not a crime. Some folk find it distasteful, and some folk disapprove (I do, on both counts). God certainly disapproves: but that is a matter that rests between Him and the sinner. It is not up to us to judge. We ought to mind our own bl**dy business and hope that God doesn’t notice our own recent petty sins.

This article is a stupid reason to have a thread dedicated to distaste for Homosexuals. You lot need to get used to the fact that some folk don’t live the same way you do. Get over it and move on.

*DieHard the Hunter*


19 posted on 07/21/2007 1:49:48 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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> The bad news is that God discriminates against this perverted lifestyle CHOICE. An arrogant pervert has no business working for ANY church.

GOD does not discriminate against any sinner. Including me, including you.


20 posted on 07/21/2007 1:53:18 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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