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Catfights and Cleavage: Epic Dust-Up on Hardball Pits Morgan vs. Wolf
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 07/21/2007 3:34:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

I tuned in to watch "Hardball," and the Miller Beer catfight commercial broke out, right down to the cleavage . . .

There was an epic dust-up on this afternoon's show between feminist Naomi Wolf and conservative radio talk show host Melanie Morgan.

At the risk of burying the lead a bit, I can't resist observing that Naomi Wolf might just be the most passively aggressive woman in America. She has an amazing, infuriating, ability to keep a smile plastered on her face while saying the nastiest of things. It took her no more than a few seconds to get into it with guest host Mike Barnicle on this evening's Hardball. Barnicle invited Wolf to comment on the WaPo story about Hillary showing cleavage on the floor of the Senate, introducing her as a Democratic consultant and former advisor to Al Gore who had advised him to wear earth tones. But before responding, Naomi had some correctin' to do.

NAOMI WOLF: Mike, let me just stop you right there. You basically have not done your homework, no offense [right]. First of all, I'm not a Democratic consultant, I'm a writer. Second of all, I was advising Gore 2000 on women's issues that I've been talking about for 15 years . . . so you've just been, the Republican National Committee came up with a bunch of urban legends, and I'm afraid they pulled the wool over your eyes.
Pretty aggressive. Yet Wolf managed to maintain a brilliant, nay, beautific smile throughout. But when it came to aggression, Wolf was just clearing her throat.
WOLF: This administration uses very nasty, dark, tactics like smearing critics and dissenters.
Wolf then took the attack to her fellow guest, Melanie Morgan.
WOLF: And Melanie, I'd like to confront you. You've done this too. You attacked Bill Keller [of the New York Times] when he published the Swift banking articles [the terrorist banking data surveillance program]. You essentially accused him of treason.
Morgan was unapologetic.
MORGAN: Yes, Naomi, I did. It was right here on Hardball in fact where I said that anybody who publishes classified data in a time of war in a highly-successful program, such as the Swift program, they should be tried for treason. If they were found guilty of treason I would have no problem with them being executed. That's my exact quote . . .And I believe Senator Hillary Clinton is engaging in very dangerous and very, very unfortunate choice of words here. She has creeped constantly leftwards and it is hurting our military and . . . what she is driving towards is a premature evacuation of the battlefield, leaving Iraq in disarray and the American troops as losers. That is wrong.
Wolf then upped the vitriol ante.
WOLF: Melanie, if I could get a word edge-wise, the American people have to know, no disrespect, actually, a lot of disrespect, you're playing a very dangerous game because when in American history leaders start to say critical speech is treason, critical speech is disloyal or unpatriotic, I mean that's what they did in the McCarthy era.
Morgan is no shrinking violet.
MORGAN: It is unpatriotic. We have real men and women who are in a blistering sandbox in Iraq right now facing 130 degree temperatures and their lives and limbs are being shot off, and for you and anybody else to say it is patriotic to backstab their mission is just flat wrong. And there is a lot of disrespect intended there to you too.
A bit later . . .
WOLF: I think it's very dangerous and un-American to resurrect this very dark history of smearing people who are asking hard questions.
With that, Wolf had given her rival a huge opening, and Morgan wasted no time in blasting through it.
MORGAN: Oh, that's interesting, because Senator Clinton is one of the very finest operators of the smear machine. She and her husband Bill during all the impeachment hearings and the 15 women who made allegations against him. They were the ones who were smeared. Please don't turn that on me.
The battle recommenced after a commercial break. Morgan repeated her support for the death penalty for those convicted of treason.
WOLF: In America, we do not execute people for their opinions, and that's the way the Founders set it up, and honestly Melanie you should go read the Constitution.

MORGAN: It's not "an opinion" when you publish top-secret information in your newspaper. That is endangering the lives of men and women on the battlefield in a time of war, and Naomi, you should know that.

WOLF: I certainly do know that, and I want you to really think long and hard about what kind of America you want to see where people are afraid to speak and call the government to account because there will be calls for the death penalty.

MORGAN: And I don't want to be lectured to by you, Naomi, because we have men and women right now in battle, and you should be appreciative and grateful and do everything you can to support that.

By the way, note Wolf's decolletage. Was that a show of cleavage solidarity with Hillary, or, to the contrary, some not-so-subtle two-upmanship?

Contact Mark at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cleavage; hillary; melaniemorgan; naomiwolf
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1 posted on 07/21/2007 3:35:00 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Cleavage catfight ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 07/21/2007 3:37:46 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What a great interview by Melanie. She took Wolf’s bait on the Bill Keller issue but turned it back and hit her over the head with it.
3 posted on 07/21/2007 3:44:37 AM PDT by AVNevis (In memory of Emily Keyes (1990-2006))
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To: Impeach98; Reaganite84; RWGuy

PING


4 posted on 07/21/2007 3:45:25 AM PDT by AVNevis (In memory of Emily Keyes (1990-2006))
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To: EarthBound

Approriate name ping.


5 posted on 07/21/2007 3:45:37 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Spelling is Secondary to message! - and other excuses for typos...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Its comforting to know that Hitlery actually has cleavage. I can hardly wait for the full exposure in Hustler, probably about the time I start my barf diet.


6 posted on 07/21/2007 3:46:28 AM PDT by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Naomi is guilty of “projection” in more ways than one...


7 posted on 07/21/2007 3:47:32 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: RushLake
BTW, this is what all the fuss is about:
8 posted on 07/21/2007 3:48:50 AM PDT by AVNevis (In memory of Emily Keyes (1990-2006))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

rawwrr! pfft-pffft!


9 posted on 07/21/2007 3:49:44 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Barnicle was in way over his head with these two ladies. He’s kind of a doofus liberal.


10 posted on 07/21/2007 3:53:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Next time have them both in studio and let it get physical
HardBall could get a pay per view thing going


11 posted on 07/21/2007 3:54:17 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
“Git' her done... ”


12 posted on 07/21/2007 3:55:44 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: dennisw

We need a real Naomi Wolf girl fight...somthing like this ——>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJ_8IVtr04


13 posted on 07/21/2007 3:59:48 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: AVNevis
She's got her fathers cleavage...


14 posted on 07/21/2007 4:01:40 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: RushLake

Who would be interested in Hillary’s cleavage anyway? Even thinking about it gives me the willies.


15 posted on 07/21/2007 4:02:12 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The word "treason" has NO meaning in today's America.
16 posted on 07/21/2007 4:05:22 AM PDT by mirkwood (I miss the southern hospitality.)
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To: mirkwood

It’s still stunning to me that Murtha is in Congress after the evidence in Abscam about him hit the press. Idiot voters in that district. No offense to idiots intended.


17 posted on 07/21/2007 4:10:21 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: SevenofNine

18 posted on 07/21/2007 4:12:47 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Any objective observer would have to admit that Wolf kept trying to take a revelation of classified data and turning it into "an opinion".

But...she tripped herself up.

She admitted that this classified program was revealed as a means of criticizing the war. This in a NEWS article.

19 posted on 07/21/2007 4:13:55 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life, Pro-Legal Immigration, Pro-Victory Bostonian atheist)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I think that if a lady’s going to (ahem) bulk up the way Ms. Wolf has, it just makes sense to show off the snoobage.


20 posted on 07/21/2007 4:22:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: Greg F

“It’s still stunning to me that Murtha is in Congress....”

It’s a on-going problem. Congressional and sentate reps who stay in office forever. They gain seniority become very good at bringing home the bacon. Get good commitee leadership positions. And the fear of districts and states losing that power is great. Ted Stevens and Alaska is another example. Even if it reaches the point of these old geezers drooling through the day and soiling their Depends, they keep getting sent back.


21 posted on 07/21/2007 4:24:54 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Naomi Wolf has been on her knees for the clintons more times than monica lewinski!!!!!


22 posted on 07/21/2007 4:27:23 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Wolf is the one on the right, yes?


23 posted on 07/21/2007 4:33:32 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Ken522

Yup.


24 posted on 07/21/2007 4:34:35 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Morgan did a great job.


25 posted on 07/21/2007 4:37:08 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I think this is the important statements everyone is missing:

NAOMI WOLF: Mike, let me just stop you right there. You basically have not done your homework, no offense [right]. First of all, I'm not a Democratic consultant, I'm a writer. Second of all, I was advising Gore 2000 on women's issues that I've been talking about for 15 years . . . so you've just been, the Republican National Committee came up with a bunch of urban legends, and I'm afraid they pulled the wool over your eyes.

In one breath she says she's not a Democratic consultant and the next sentence she says she's advising Gore on Women's Issues? One denial and one lie at the exact same time. Liberalism is a mental disease.

26 posted on 07/21/2007 4:44:02 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: trisham

Barnicle is that most dangerous of species: a genuinely stupid man who is convinced that he is brilliant.


27 posted on 07/21/2007 4:48:43 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Wasn’t it ABC that led the trend to T&A.

Hillary is prett big on the A part.


28 posted on 07/21/2007 4:54:54 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: RushLake

“Its comforting to know that Hitlery actually has cleavage. I can hardly wait for the full exposure in Hustler, probably about the time I start my barf diet.”

Probably a pretty frosty place, as in “cold as a witch’s..... in Siberia.”


29 posted on 07/21/2007 4:58:09 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: monkapotamus

Hillary, you’re no Jerri Thompson.


30 posted on 07/21/2007 5:01:25 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: trisham
Not to mention a liar and a plagiarist.
31 posted on 07/21/2007 5:02:42 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

32 posted on 07/21/2007 5:03:06 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“WOLF: I think it’s very dangerous and un-American to resurrect this very dark history of smearing people who are asking hard questions.”

Hard questions? LOL! It’s the easiest thing in the world to be a Traitor. ‘Rats are BORN to the task! Naomi? Read a History Book, you Femi-Gnatzie.


33 posted on 07/21/2007 5:05:35 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Bogtrotter52
And the fear of districts and states losing that power is great.

Except that I know few voters that think this way. It's the party professionals.

34 posted on 07/21/2007 5:06:54 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Pharmboy
Barnicle is that most dangerous of species: a genuinely stupid man who is convinced that he is brilliant.

***************

Exactly right!

35 posted on 07/21/2007 5:13:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: metesky
Not to mention a liar and a plagiarist.

************

No kidding.

36 posted on 07/21/2007 5:16:38 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: AVNevis

Good Lord. She looks like a piece of bubblegum!


37 posted on 07/21/2007 5:22:40 AM PDT by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for our country from where he sits than anyone will ever know.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It’s about time someone pointed out the difference between an ‘opinion’ and publishing classified information.

Every Republican/conservative who goes on TV and is subject to the Dem talking point about ‘attacking their patriotism’ should push that very sharp distinction. They should boldly insist it is not only unpatriotic but deserving of execution for treason to publish classified information that jeopardizes our troops and their mission.

It’d be nice to see a few Republican COngressman and Senators with the moxie of Melanie Morgan.


38 posted on 07/21/2007 5:25:30 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: AVNevis
BTW, this is what all the fuss is about:

I'm confused, the fuss is about the fact Hillary is a New York Senator ............cause I don't see any cleavage in that picture. : )

All I see is a ugly socialist Marxist who forget to wear her Mao Pantsuit (crusty) to the Senate sleepover

39 posted on 07/21/2007 5:25:37 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: AVNevis

That’s just the focal point (eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww). What the fuss is REALLY about is that Mrs. Silky Pony accused Hitlary of being too manly. The display of cleavage is a calculated focus group tested attempt to counter said accusation. What’s funny is that Silky Pony IS a better woman than Her Thighness.


40 posted on 07/21/2007 5:32:30 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: johnny7
She's got her fathers cleavage...

I think you are right

I apologize to those with weak stomachs

41 posted on 07/21/2007 5:32:35 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Larry Flint should offer a million dollars for a picture of Hillary in a dress!

It doesn't get any more pornographic that!

42 posted on 07/21/2007 5:43:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
10+++

BTW..anyone know if there are any clips posted?

43 posted on 07/21/2007 5:47:16 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Greg F

“Except that I know few voters that think this way. It’s the party professionals.”

I lived in Alaska for 30+ years and pretty much everyone thought that way. “Sure, Ted’s a real ***hole, but we can’t afford to lose him with all his seniority.” And if that attitude was common there, it’s common everywhere.


44 posted on 07/21/2007 6:15:47 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Guess they need to change Paul McCartney’s song to Cleavage ??(We’re talkin’ about cleavage .. We will fight for the right To live with cleavage)


45 posted on 07/21/2007 6:37:37 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: AVNevis

Sorry I missed this but that picture of hillary in pink reminds me of something. We saw the new Harry Potter movie and the evil teacher at Hogwartz always wore pink. I knew there was something about the evil b*tch, who wanted control of everyone that reminded me of someone and that someone was hillary!


46 posted on 07/21/2007 6:50:09 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: EDINVA
“It’d be nice to see a few Republican Congressman and Senators with the moxie of Melanie Morgan.”

So true but most of the Republicans that we’ve put into the house and senate are Rhino’s and they agree (mostly) with the Democrat they’re suppose to challenge on the news shows.

“My dear friend and Senator such and such”. Makes me puke!!

47 posted on 07/21/2007 6:59:10 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: RushLake
Its comforting to know that Hitlery actually has cleavage.

That's not cleavage; that's the exposure of some rib bones at the point of their connection to a sternum. See Post 8. It always amazes me when some women who have nothing to show try to show it off anyway, to the horror of all spectators.

48 posted on 07/21/2007 7:02:12 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Phatboy
Dems have cleaved themselves a distraction. Meanwhile the real positions are being brought in under cover of distractions, because if they tell voters what their real intentions are,....

That's 100% spot-on...

On CNN, Web Will Rock the Vote [Debate questions asked in 30-second videos]

50 posted on 07/21/2007 7:13:14 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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