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Study: Ritalin Stunts Growth
WebMD ^ | July 20, 2007 | Daniel DeNoon

Posted on 07/21/2007 5:49:14 AM PDT by cinives

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To: Weeedley

BULLS$IT! I have ADHD and suffered greatly from it as a child with no medication available for anyone with ADHD at that point. It is not a made up syndrome or disease. It is a learning disorder like Dyslexia of which I have as well.


21 posted on 07/21/2007 9:55:06 AM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: Halls

When you were taught to read, did you learn using strict phonics or were you taught using whole-word or the look-say method ?


22 posted on 07/21/2007 9:57:46 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives

Those are interesting, thanks.


23 posted on 07/21/2007 10:01:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: Halls

I hope you find comfort in blaming a syndrome as an balm for what are obvious personal shortcomings.

(I am the first one to admit i am redneck lazy; but don’t blame anything but me for it!)


24 posted on 07/21/2007 10:09:48 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley; Halls
but you as a parent are nothing more than a pusher.

Your treatment of this freeper is rude, obnoxious and uncalled for. I've seen your treatment of others on homeschool threads that has been equally bad.

Why don't you put a lid on it or just not bother posting, newb?

25 posted on 07/21/2007 6:56:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tax-chick; cinives; Tijeras_Slim

Exercise is great for helping burn off excess energy.

If we had not homeschooled our kids, no doubt they would have been labeled hyperacitve, too; especially my son. He needs to move in a serious way and when he doesn’t get enough exercise, he’s unbearable. When he was swimming on the Y swim team, which was daily from Sept to Mar., he was fine. A week after practice stopped, he was miserable to be around.

It does take a lot of committment, but in our case, it sure has paid off. He’s a lifeguard now and EXTREMELY physically fit. And he now manages to keep himself busy and has settled down some. He’s a real pleasure to be around.


26 posted on 07/21/2007 7:01:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tax-chick

You might want to do a food diary.

My son was VERY sensitive to artificial vanilla flavoring. One snack with that and he was bouncing around so much he was dripping sweat. We stuck to real vanilla and he was fine.

A friend’s son was sensitive to Red # 40, only he got really, really mean, to the point of almost being sadistic, whenever he ate it. They could ALWAYS tell when he snuck candy.

Just some thoughts.


27 posted on 07/21/2007 7:07:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: cinives

I can’t really remember, sorry. I believe it was phonics and I ended up having to be pulled out of school during the middle of the day and go to private tutoring just to learn how to read and write. It was a constant struggle and one that my poor parents had to sit with me every night and help me relearn everything I was taught at school that day cause I wouldn’t remember any of it.


28 posted on 07/21/2007 7:09:44 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: cinives

HA...and much much more...makes kids adult drug addicts...what’s even worse is it’s a made up disease...if kids are properly fed...this made of disease DISAPPEARS...


29 posted on 07/21/2007 7:10:00 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Weeedley

I’d strongly suggest that you don’t make things personal on this site.


30 posted on 07/21/2007 7:15:38 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: shield

really? my son is fed very properly and he still has ADHD. I have ADHD and have had it all my life and my mom home cooked every meal for me with everything healthy there was to eat growing up. Why not go and get your facts straight seeing you think you know so much about ADHD and what cures it.


31 posted on 07/21/2007 7:23:42 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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I have a 15 year old daughter that is ADD (without the “H” for hyper-active that makes ADHD). Adderal has been a God send for her. Her mother and I weighed for three years whether or not to have her evaluated and whether or not to start her on medication. Once we started her on Adderal, this child’s grades improved one whole letter grade from B’s and C’s to A’s and B’s. The peace of mind of not having an ADD kid around is a huge plus.

Anyone that thinks Adderal, Ritalin or any other ADD/ADHD treatment makes kids zombies has no clue whatsoever about the medication much less the condition. The medication is an amphetamine salt or, in other words, speed. Speed does not make anyone a zombie. Otherwise it wouldn’t be called “speed”. They’d call it something else like “zombie” or something. Now, if it doesn’t make sense to give a hyperactive kid or attention deficit kid speed, what happens is the amphetamine speeds the body up to, in essence, catch up with the speed of the mind which has the effect of slowing the kid down and enabling them to pay attention for longer sustained periods of time.

When I see kids that are clearly ADD/ADHD and their parents have the resources to have the kid on medication and they don’t, I consider that child abuse and neglect. Those parents are keeping that kid from living a fulfilled life and being all they can be.


32 posted on 07/21/2007 7:33:05 PM PDT by DaGman (`)
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To: Halls

Dyslexia and ADHD exist, but not to nearly the extent they are diagnosed.

I teach college accounting. Invariably, after the first exam, at least 5 of my students tell me they have dyslexia. It is quite predictable.

In my local school system, 28% of the students are coded as handicapped in some way. They line up outside the school nurse’s office to get their drugs. The line stretches down the hallway.

Declaring handicaps where they don’t exist is a major industry. Parents are being duped into drugging their kids into submission.

This article would seem to indicate that you get a temporary (3 year) benefit in behavior with the side effect of stunted growth.


33 posted on 07/21/2007 7:35:46 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Halls
I'm assuming when you talk about proper food...that excludes all SUGAR. No process foods whatsoever...that's just a couple of foods...there's others.

Nutritionist cure this easily ... without drugs.

34 posted on 07/21/2007 7:43:12 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Another lie!!!!!!!!1 I have a friend who is ADHD and when he stopped eating sugar completely out of his diet it did nothing for him. In fact I know other parents who’s child have ADHD and stopping sugar out of their diets did nothing for them either.

Do you have ADHD? Do you have a child that has ADHD? If you don’t to either you don’t have a clue about anything you are talking about.


35 posted on 07/21/2007 7:53:50 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: Poser

Well, in my case let me reassure you I was tested for dyslexia by more than one expert in the field when I was in school and there was no doubt I was dyslexic and still am to this day. My parents sent me to the best doctor’s in the country to help me with my ADHD and dyslexia through school and college.

I have no doubt many are diagnosed incorrectly, but I was not one of them and neither is my son.


36 posted on 07/21/2007 7:58:06 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: Halls

There’s so much more to it than that. A really good nutritionist first finds the root. I happen to work in that field and have seen this problem cured. Each individual is different...so just giving a basic formula is not necessarily right for you or whomever.


37 posted on 07/21/2007 8:05:09 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: metmom

We use so little vanilla that it’s not likely an issue. Bill has just always been high-energy. In a school, it would be very hard for him ... although I do wish we had the opportunity of getting him on a serious track team!


38 posted on 07/22/2007 5:30:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: Poser
Declaring handicaps where they don’t exist is a major industry.

No truer words were spoken.

Other than the extra funding schools get for a special ed kid - which clearly explains why schools LOVE labeling students - look at the careers that have exploded within school districts since we went to school: counselors, behavior therapists, occupational therapists, speech and language therapists, school psychologists, etcetera.

I transcribe special educations hearings for my state, where parents are suing school districts for not providing this stuff to their kids. The behaviors that are now considered symptoms of a medical or emotional problem are astounding.

Follow the money, folks. There is a fortune to be made by the so-called 'disorders' of your kids.

39 posted on 07/22/2007 5:55:03 AM PDT by Lizavetta ( If a liberal speaks, and no one hears it, is it still stupid?)
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To: Lizavetta

“Other than the extra funding schools get for a special ed kid - which clearly explains why schools LOVE labeling students”

On the surface, it looks like the schools get more money, but once the parents start demanding special stuff for their kid, the local costs skyrocket.

In my town, NH, we had a student with a malformed brain. He was able to lay in a bed and eat. He could not understand language. He could not see. He could not communicate. He was in a hospital, 40 miles from town, permanently. The town was required to provide him a personal teacher, 12 months a year. They were also required to provide him with specialists (for what, I don’t know).

When the city balked at the $125,000 per year cost, the parents sued and won. The town was required to spend that money, every year, until he reached the age of 22.

This was an extreme case, but we had scores of others that had to be bussed to special schools at a cost of more than $30,000 per year.

We had another student whose parents insisted he be enrolled in a private, residential school that had a hockey team because the kid played hockey. They wanted us to pay full tuition, room and board.

There have to be limits to the funding that any one child can receive. Four thousand students suffer so that 40 can get special services at incredible cost.

I propose that a limit of twice the average cost per student be set for handicapped students. In my town, that would be about $22,000 per year. Personally, I find that number to be obscene but it would be a good start.


40 posted on 07/22/2007 6:24:01 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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