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[Cindy}Sheehan criticizes Charlotte police (Gathering of Eagles "Neo-Nazi, pro-war fascist group")
The Charlotte Observer ^ | July 19, 2007 | CLEVE R. WOOTSON JR.

Posted on 07/22/2007 2:26:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A blog written by antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan and posted on MichaelMoore.com criticizes Charlotte police for allowing counter-protesters to "try to intimidate us" during Sheehan's antiwar rally Tuesday in Bryant Park.

But in a memo to top police administrators, one captain said officers had no issues during the two-hour event and expressed surprise at the complaints.

"At the School of the Assassins in Columbus, GA, and in Charlotte, NC, we ran into similar problems: police presence that seemed to be there to foster violence. At both places the neo-Nazi, pro-war fascist group "Gathering of Eagles" came out to mostly try to intimidate us from our mission," Sheehan writes in her blog.

"At Ft. Benning, after we complained, the police kept them separate from us, but in Charlotte, the police refused saying that the Eagles had their rights to `freedom of speech.' "

Sheehan, one of the best-known opponents of the war in Iraq, stayed in her car during the antiwar rally at Bryant Park that drew about 125 people.

Instead of addressing the crowd -- some of her supporters said there was concern about her safety -- Sheehan moved to Talley's Green Grocery in Dilworth.

In a police memo dated July 19, Capt. Doug Gallant, who reviewed and evaluated the event in Bryant Park, said he was "quite frankly, surprised there have been complaints...."

The police memo says the 14 officers on hand noticed no displays that violated North Carolina law. One protester began using profanity, the memo says, and an officer asked the person to stop cursing.

The memo also says that police didn't have to bring in physical barriers, like bike racks, to keep the groups away from each other. At one point, Sheehan's security advisor said she had concerns about the Gathering of Eagles, and officers asked the group to move back, creating a buffer of at least 25 feet.


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This poor, sad creature is delusional. I love her calling the School of the America's the "School of the Assassins". How lefty-loony and trite. Also love that she feels GOE, which is almost all Vietnam vets, is a "Neo-Nazi, pro-war fascist group". What does that make her son, Specialist Casey Sheehan, who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq?
1 posted on 07/22/2007 2:26:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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"But in a memo to top police administrators, one captain said officers had no issues during the two-hour event and expressed surprise at the complaints."

"At Ft. Benning, after we complained, the police kept them separate from us, but in Charlotte, the police refused saying that the Eagles had their rights to `freedom of speech.' "


Bless her heart.

2 posted on 07/22/2007 2:35:20 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But in a memo to top police administrators, one captain said officers had no issues during the two-hour event and expressed surprise at the complaints."

"At Ft. Benning, after we complained, the police kept them separate from us, but in Charlotte, the police refused saying that the Eagles had their rights to `freedom of speech.' "


Bless her heart.

3 posted on 07/22/2007 2:35:25 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What does that make her son, Specialist Casey Sheehan, who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq?

It makes him disrespected by his own mom.

4 posted on 07/22/2007 2:36:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL!

I guess I made my point. ;o)


5 posted on 07/22/2007 2:36:41 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: xzins

Yep...too sad.


6 posted on 07/22/2007 2:38:14 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Thunder90; EQAndyBuzz; pissant; Stallone; kristinn; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; ...

Ping!!


7 posted on 07/22/2007 2:40:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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...Cindy Sheehan...criticizes Charlotte police for allowing counter-protesters to "try to intimidate us" during Sheehan's antiwar rally Tuesday in Bryant Park.

Sheehan...stayed in her car during the antiwar rally...

So a bit of counter-protest does intimidate Cindy, I've Pee'd My Pants and Can't Get Outta' the Car, the Coward. Nice work, Eagles!

8 posted on 07/22/2007 3:03:35 AM PDT by elli1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sheehan lying is nothing new—Sheehan, the Eagles are not neo-nazi, fascists but a pro-troop movement to counter your junk wherever you go.
See you in D.C. September 15.


9 posted on 07/22/2007 3:08:41 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron; ISBN 1-4137-5397-3.)
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To: elli1

Here’s her rant:

Wednesday, July 18th, 2007
“Give War a Chance” ...by Cindy Sheehan

Journey for Humanity and Accountability - Day 9

Being in the deep south has been a very interesting experience. As George’s approval numbers hover down somewhere in Congress’s range and approval for their war is shrinking, we have encountered very little opposition to our message, but the opposition we have encountered has been vile, abusive and potentially dangerous.

In Houston, one of the more active kingdoms of war profiteering, we encountered no protest. As a matter of fact, while we were stationed on a bridge over I-10 holding our “Impeach Bush and Cheney” and “Troops home now” signs, we had almost 100% approval. People were actually stopping their cars to applaud us and in some cases, join us.

Our next stop was New Orleans where the policies of BushCo are still harming our brothers and sisters. The various governments are gobbling up land in poor, but hard-working class areas to be used for upscale housing and/or casinos. We met with several grass-roots organizations who are feeding people, helping them find homes and jobs. There was also not one peep of opposition to our message because the people of New Orleans intimately understand the reasons that BushCo should be impeached.

The fun started, however when we got to Montgomery, AL where right off the bat, the Secretary of the Montgomery Repugs confronted me and displayed his ignorance by stating that he loves George Bush and that George had “nothing” to do with the war in Iraq. When some Veterans for Peace confronted him and asked him why he didn’t enlist to go to Iraq if he was such a strong supporter of the mayhem, he let us know that he was “courageously” supporting the war effort by staying in America, working and “paying his taxes.” Now that the encounter with this brave patriot has been shown all over cable news, every pipsqueak repug with a bad toupe will be confronting me to get his 15 minutes of fame.

In Montgomery, our Caravan met with many nice folks who were on the side of impeachment and ending the war with us, but we also ran into a couple of people who were upset with BushCo for different reasons. On a beautiful, magnolia tree lined street where our group was hosted for a pot-luck, a home had the sign: “Give War a Chance.” The homeowner and father of five told us that George Bush “is a pu**y” and that if he were President, he would “wipe out” the entire Middle East with nukes. He has a service age daughter whom he said he would be proud for her to go to Iraq and he would be thrilled if she got some “confirmed kills.” Another gentleman driving down the street didn’t know why we were so upset because America had a “civil war” so why can’t Iraq “have one?” We all needed to be decontaminated on that visit!

At the School of the Assassins in Columbus, GA and in Charlotte, NC, we ran into similar problems: police presence that seemed to be there to foster violence At both places the neo-Nazi, pro-war fascist group “Gathering of Eagles” came out to mostly try to intimidate us from our mission. At Ft. Benning, after we complained, the police kept them separate from us, but in Charlotte, the police refused saying that the Eagles had their rights to “freedom of speech.” But the Eagles’ freedom of speech has included physical threats against me and actual physical force against kids and women. When the Charlotte police were told this, they said that they couldn’t keep them apart from our group until the Eagles actually did something. So I chose to stay away from the rally then go and perhaps cause them to hurt someone else because of my presence. Freedom of speech is one thing, but I don’t believe that the First Amendment protects violent speech, especially if it is one of the neocons or their media supporters calling for increased violence in the Middle East. Nothing about our movement promotes or calls for violence and it would be swell if the CPD protected everyone’s First Amendment rights, not just people whom they agree with. Gold Star Father, Carlos Arredondo, joined us in Charlotte with his display about the personal cost of war which doesn’t affect the “Gathering of Chickenhawks” at all, in fact we believe that they are the ones who disgrace our children’s memories and the memories of the fallen in Vietnam by supporting another ‘Nam like quagmire.

It is my belief that for all human history, we have been giving “war a chance” and it has never worked. There has never been a “war to end all wars.” No matter how much BushCo blather, peace cannot be spread by the use of force and democracy cannot be forced on a people at the end of a M-16. Congressional Democrats are busy throwing up smokescreens...or bones...to their “anti-war” left by their meaningless bills after they gave George 120 billion more dollars to wage these wars of aggression and potentially invade Iran.

As one of my peace idols, John Lennon said let’s “give peace a chance.”

http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php


10 posted on 07/22/2007 3:12:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this is a new tactic being tested out by the left.

Claim counter protesters are a threat, and make false claims against them.


11 posted on 07/22/2007 3:13:10 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Cyclops08; All
Did you see above where she called Gathering of Eagles “Gathering of Chickenhawks” as if they haven’t served in the military? UNBELIEVABLE!!!
12 posted on 07/22/2007 3:15:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cindy, Nazis are leftists like you, you cumb dunt.


13 posted on 07/22/2007 3:16:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Notice she said that GOE shouldn’t have the same first amendment rights as “peaceful” groups like hers? Typical leftist...


14 posted on 07/22/2007 3:18:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The level of this woman’s ignorance just simply can’t be expressed in words. It would have to be expressed mathematically in the abstract. We are going to have to rewrite the constitution for Cindy. We still have a right to free speech but only if Cindy doesn’t “feel” intimidated. It’s the same leftist paradigm, different loon. It’s okay for me but not for thee, and say whatever you want unless it conflicts with the collective.

E Pluribus Join Us! Resistance is futile.


15 posted on 07/22/2007 3:42:52 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Hunter '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Cindy Sheehan...criticizes Charlotte police for allowing counter-protesters to "try to intimidate us" during Sheehan's antiwar rally Tuesday in Bryant Park."

hmmm... Cindy cannot handle running amok ...unchecked... Tuff !!!

16 posted on 07/22/2007 3:53:45 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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What a delusional skanky old whore.
She really needs to be committed. Notice according to the police report that the only trouble was yelling and cussing from the She-man group.
Nice of her to clarify what the moon bats idea of “free Speech” is, Nobody is allowed to express their views but leftist moonbat commies.


17 posted on 07/22/2007 3:54:15 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freedom of speech is only ever a one-way street with lunatics like Shehen.


18 posted on 07/22/2007 4:07:54 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She feels intimidated by conservatives, huh? If Jihad Cindy can't stand the heat, she'd better drop her jihad and go home!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 07/22/2007 4:11:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live just a few minutes from Crawford and try to start all of my north bound weekend rides with a pass by the Surrender Camp and wave. Strange, when I get close to the place only one finger waves.....


20 posted on 07/22/2007 4:14:46 AM PDT by Feckless (En Temps)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Every time The Left screams “Fascist!” they are engaging in classic psychological projection which is driven by an all-consuming panic to deny what they know deep down that they have become.
21 posted on 07/22/2007 4:18:44 AM PDT by ct_libertarian (Bolshevik Butch (Stalinist Slick Part 2): Coming to an Election Booth Near You!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Cindy, Nazis are leftists like you, you cumb dunt.

Maybe you should check your spelling.

22 posted on 07/22/2007 4:26:55 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Cyclops08
On a beautiful, magnolia tree lined street where our group was hosted for a pot-luck, a home had the sign: “Give War a Chance.” The homeowner and father of five told us that George Bush “is a pu**y” and that if he were President, he would “wipe out” the entire Middle East with nukes.

I like this guy...!

23 posted on 07/22/2007 4:33:14 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"At Ft. Benning, after we complained, the police kept them separate from us, but in Charlotte, the police refused saying that the Eagles had their rights to `freedom of speech.' "

We certainly know who the Facist is by this statement.
24 posted on 07/22/2007 4:35:19 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A blog written by antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan and posted on MichaelMoore.com criticizes Charlotte police for allowing counter-protesters to "try to intimidate us" during Sheehan's antiwar rally Tuesday in Bryant Park.

Boo effin' Hoo!

It be really ROUGH when YOUR ox is getting gored!!!

25 posted on 07/22/2007 4:43:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As George’s approval numbers hover down somewhere in Congress’s range ...

ABOVE! you twit!!

26 posted on 07/22/2007 4:45:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cyclops08

Nah....
the same old, same old.


27 posted on 07/22/2007 4:46:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

stick a fork in cindy, she is well done and shouldn’t be heard of again


28 posted on 07/22/2007 5:01:01 AM PDT by sure_fine ( not one to over kill the thought process)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She hates her son.He threw her pacifism in her face and represented all the military she found intolerable.


29 posted on 07/22/2007 5:05:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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...Cindy Sheehan and posted on MichaelMoore.com

Cindy is too much even for the DUmmies and KOSnuts, but is welcomed by Jabba!

30 posted on 07/22/2007 5:20:01 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The various governments are gobbling up land in poor, but hard-working class areas to be used for upscale housing and/or casinos.

Governor: Kathleen Blanco (D)

U.S. Senator: Mary Landrieu (D)

Mayor: Ray "SchoolBus" Nagin (D)

Cindy is in a elite class reserved only for likes of Michael Moore & Rosie O'Donnell

31 posted on 07/22/2007 5:27:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; stainlessbanner; Tax-chick

My God, this woman has really gone around the bend. Typical liberal, throwing those anti-Southern shots in there too.

I’m surprised the police in Charlotte were that hands-off, actually. I wouldn’t call the Queen City a hotbed of liberalism, but it’s got the same problems with Rats and moonbats that most medium-sized cities do. Hats off to the Charlotte-Mecklenberg PD on this one.

}:-)4


32 posted on 07/22/2007 5:27:04 AM PDT by Moose4 (I'm not white trash. I'm a Caucasian recyclable.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Cindy Sheeswine were to try this crap in Florida, there would probably be sufficient grounds to have her mentally disturbed ass Baker Acted into the nearest mental health facility for evaluation and treatment, which she is very likely in need of.


33 posted on 07/22/2007 5:39:43 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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The Charlotte PD is doing better recently on controlling public disturbances. They seem to have handled this well.


34 posted on 07/22/2007 5:41:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: dixiechick2000

as long as ma sheehan runs against piglosi ~ let her spout her crap!!!!


35 posted on 07/22/2007 5:48:44 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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So a bit of counter-protest does intimidate Cindy, I've Pee'd My Pants and Can't Get Outta' the Car, the Coward. Nice work, Eagles!

More like she soiled her knickers.

36 posted on 07/22/2007 6:04:15 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; sit-rep; Squantos; agent_delta

Peacenut Cindy calls on armed folks to protect her from people who don’t like her. Oh, the irony.

Why don’t you just try to understand them, Cindy?


37 posted on 07/22/2007 6:17:00 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ( Hunter 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s mentally ill.


38 posted on 07/22/2007 6:19:02 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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"A blog written by antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan and posted on MichaelMoore.com"

Well at least now we know where she is getting her meal ticket these days.

39 posted on 07/22/2007 6:22:39 AM PDT by avacado
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I’ve just had an epiphany of sorts. If Cindy hates soldiers so much, how much could she really have loved her son? He joined an all volunteer force, re-enlisted, and volunteered for the mission in which he was killed. How does she coalate those facts with her feelings about soldiers?


40 posted on 07/22/2007 6:38:00 AM PDT by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting take Sheehan has on the First Amendment. Evidently wants to ban speech that she disagrees with. She especially wants to ban the speech of "neocons." I have no doubt that she would have wanted to ban Churchill's speaches that denounced Hitler because mean old Churchill was not talking nice to Hitler.

I don't believe that the First Amendment protects violent speech, especially if it is one of the neocons or their media supporters calling for increased violence in the Middle East.

41 posted on 07/22/2007 6:48:58 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FINALLY Charlotte police get some good press.


42 posted on 07/22/2007 6:51:23 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Sheehan has a problem with protesters? She believes dissenting speech should be squashed? Sheehan believes everyone should bow to the beliefs of the speaker? How ironic.


43 posted on 07/22/2007 6:58:57 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another irony: Apparently Sheehan has no faith that words and negotiations are effective. She believes that violence (in this case armed police action) is the only answer to conflict. Does this make her pro-war?


44 posted on 07/22/2007 7:01:10 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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Also love that she feels GOE, which is almost all Vietnam vets, is a "Neo-Nazi, pro-war fascist group". What does that make her son, Specialist Casey Sheehan, who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq?

Her meal ticket?

45 posted on 07/22/2007 7:03:44 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Has George W. Bush been taking Carter's Little Pills?)
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Sheehan: "I don’t believe that the First Amendment protects violent speech, especially if it is one of the neocons or their media supporters ..."

So the First Amendment is only for the left. Just for the sake of clarity, we need to rename it "Freedom of Liberal Speech".

gitmo

46 posted on 07/22/2007 7:06:51 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eagles Up!


47 posted on 07/22/2007 7:07:30 AM PDT by windsorknot
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Hear, hear! Charlotte is a bad place, Cindy. So is the rest of the state. If I were you I would never come back.

And I thank God I’m not you.


48 posted on 07/22/2007 7:11:21 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Instead of addressing the crowd -- some of her supporters said there was concern about her safety -- Sheehan moved to Talley's Green Grocery in Dilworth.

A liberal peace activist that there girl is.
Create an issue and fear for your well being because of the issue you created.

It should be a mandate that the picture of a box of rocks is shown at the start of all Sheehan threads.

49 posted on 07/22/2007 7:18:33 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Larry Lucido

Someone needs a hug.


50 posted on 07/22/2007 7:37:39 AM PDT by agent_delta (Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?)
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