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Civil war among U.S. librarians
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/hentoff072307.php3 ^ | July 23, 2007 | Nat Hentoff

Posted on 07/23/2007 7:55:19 AM PDT by rhema

The unassuming international champion of universal health care, Michael Moore, was asked (New York Sun, June 29) whether, while filming "Sicko," he inquired about the condition of Cuban journalist Normando Gonzalez, a political prisoner since 2003. He has contracted severe chronic illnesses while in a Castro gulag. Moore answered that he asked only about Cuba's health care system while he was there.

Among other suffering prisoners in Cuban cells who would have added further dimension to "Sicko" are independent librarians, put away for more than 20-year sentences for the crime of giving Cubans access to books and other publications forbidden in state libraries. Dr. Jose Luis Garcia Paneque, for example, director of a Las Tunas library, is not being treated meaningfully for intestinal problems, hypertension and other ailments.

The caged independent librarians were, however, at the center of a protest at an American Library Association conference in Washington in June. These protesters are themselves long-term members of the ALA and call themselves Freadomistas, in contrast with Fidelistas (Castro admirers) on the ALA's governing council. That council steadfastly refuses to demand the immediate release of Cuban freedom-to-read librarians, whom Amnesty International designates "prisoners of conscience." Indeed, the council voted down an amendment to release them.

Bearing such signs as "Book Burning Is NOT A solution to Cuba's Energy Problems" and "Ray Bradbury (author of 'Fahrenheit 451') Says: 'Free The Jailed Librarians,'" the Freadomistas also handed out flyers that quoted the core ALA policy: "The American Library Association believes that freedom of expression is an inalienable human right ... vital to the resistance of oppression ... and the principles of freedom of expression should be applied by libraries and librarians throughout the world." Another ALA policy cited on the flyers "deplores the destruction of libraries, library collections and property."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: ala; communismkills; cuba; gulag; librarians; libraries; michaelmoore; nathentoff; sicko

1 posted on 07/23/2007 7:55:22 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

Dewey Decimated System?........


2 posted on 07/23/2007 7:57:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: rhema
The ALA is dominated by Marxists. Its a wonder they haven't purged our libraries of politically incorrect books - yet.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 07/23/2007 7:57:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Caleb1411
The governing council of the ALA says it has expressed "deep concern" about the jailed librarians but refuses to recognize that book collections in their libraries were burned. And the ALA council — in defiance of a Jan. 25, 2006 poll in the official American Libraries e-mail newsletter, AL Direct, in which 76 percent of the rank-and-file membership urged emancipation — continues its refusal to call for the release of what some ALA leaders deride as "so-called librarians."

Yet the library associations of Poland, Estonia, Latvia, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have vigorously demanded their release. Those countries know what it is to live under communism.

4 posted on 07/23/2007 7:59:35 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
Yet the library associations of Poland, Estonia, Latvia, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have vigorously demanded their release. Those countries know what it is to live under communism.

At the ALA conference, a Freadomista flyer ended with a reminder from Martin Luther King Jr., whose biography was burned by Castro judges: "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends."

If you wait for significant numbers of leftists to rise against a communist state in defense of your liberty, you’ll die disappointed in prison.

Nat Hentoff will be there, but he’ll probably be by himself.

5 posted on 07/23/2007 8:01:44 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: rhema
ALA leaders deride as "so-called librarians."

Well they don’t have degrees in Library Science.

6 posted on 07/23/2007 8:14:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: goldstategop
Its a wonder they haven't purged our libraries of politically incorrect books - yet.

You don’t have to purge books that were never on your shelves to begin with.

Remember these are the people that choose which books to buy.

7 posted on 07/23/2007 8:16:56 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: rhema

The ALA is dominated by fringe nutjobs who are ignored by 90% of librarians.


8 posted on 07/23/2007 8:20:24 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: Red Badger

I hate hate hate the Dewey Decimal System.

On a serious note, I thought people loved Cuba for it’s free healthcare. Cuba isn’t a wonderful country? I thought different


9 posted on 07/23/2007 8:21:54 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: Pontiac
I do tech support for a university library and I have never seen a group of more conniving, plotting, scheming, petty, and vindictive set of people than librarians! Apparently, it's written somewhere that having an MLS entitles you to run a Fortune 500 company as every department MUST have a librarian in charge, regardless if they have the job expertise or management skills. If this place was in the private sector it would have filed for bankruptcy years ago.
10 posted on 07/23/2007 8:24:14 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: rhema
Moore answered that he asked only about Cuba's health care system while he was there.

One of the Lefts most important tools of propaganda is asking the correct questions of the correct people so as to get the correct answers.

It is just like being a good lawyer never ask a question you don’t know the answer to.

Of course Moore knows that if he asks the wrong questions in Cuba he never get invited back.

11 posted on 07/23/2007 8:24:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: rhema
At the Washington meeting of the ALA, there were counterdemonstrators with such signs as "Defend the Cuban Revolution!" and "'Independent' Libraries Are A FRAUD!" One passerby — wearing an official ALA identification tag — looked at the Freadomistas signs, refused to take a flyer and snarled, "I am on the other side."

You can't make it much clearer than that. Hentoff is an old lefty who actually believes in the ideals that got him there and acts on them. This particular ALA cockroach believes in something that is incompatible with human freedom. Choose your side.

12 posted on 07/23/2007 8:28:11 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop
Where I live they have. It’s called the Annual Friends of the Library Book Sale. In the small LIBERAL town in NC, where I live any book not checked out in the last two years is purged. Most of the classics are gone and a disproportionate number of new acquisitions are by liberal authors.
13 posted on 07/23/2007 8:32:15 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: wastedyears

Some librarians swear by the Dewey.

Me, I prefer the Library of Congress system.

(I have yet to ascertain whether preference is guided by when the MLS degree was earned, or by what system one’s first job used.)


14 posted on 07/23/2007 8:34:08 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: wastedyears
I hate hate hate the Dewey Decimal System.

What is wrong with it? Are there any good alternatives?

I know nothing about the subject. All I know is that whenever I need a book at the library, I look it up in the catalog, then go find it in the stacks. Seems to work pretty well from my point of view.

15 posted on 07/23/2007 8:36:38 AM PDT by ConfusedAndLovingIt
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To: ConfusedAndLovingIt
For half the time I went to the library in elementary school, note elementary school, grades 2-5, that time was devoted to learning about the Dewey Decimal System. The other half of the time was for reading books and drawing stuff from the books. PLUS I think that was all throughout the time I was in that grade school. I say 2-5 'cause we moved; different school was around the corner. I did do Pre-K to first.
16 posted on 07/23/2007 8:41:49 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: aegiscg47

I believe the reason you find so many petty and worthless librarians in the academic world is a totally undeserved inflated ego. I had the misfortune of working in the University of Kentucky’s library system, and your description is spot on. Fortunately, I’ve managed to move on.


17 posted on 07/23/2007 8:45:17 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: goldstategop
"The ALA is dominated by Marxists. Its a wonder they haven't purged our libraries of politically incorrect books - yet. "

Amazing how quickly librarians changed from nice little ladies with their hair in a bun, prim demeanor, and modest dresses, to a bunch of flaming leftists. Just like academia.

18 posted on 07/23/2007 9:04:13 AM PDT by tom h
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To: wastedyears
I hate hate hate the Dewey Decimal System.

Gilbert library to be first to drop Dewey Decimal

19 posted on 07/23/2007 9:06:38 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A man who will not defend himself does not deserve to be defended by others.)
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To: rhema

Makes me feel better that there are some sane librarians out there....other than me :)


20 posted on 07/23/2007 10:06:23 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: ConfusedAndLovingIt
There are no good alternatives to te DD system.

The only other alternative we have is the Library of Congress system. The greatest evil in libraries is that Mevl Dewey refused to catalog the Library of Congress for them. Congress came up with the LC system. Enough said?

The Dewey Decimal system follows a logical pattern that flows from subject to subject in an understandable pattern. It’s very easy.

21 posted on 07/23/2007 10:09:43 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: goldstategop

They do purge. They call it clearing the shelves for “new” books. Of course, there are donated conservative titles that never seem to make it to the shelves. They wind up in the same “used book sales” that the purged titles wind up in.


22 posted on 07/23/2007 10:24:52 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Pontiac

Even when books are gifted they aren’t always shelved.


23 posted on 07/23/2007 10:26:05 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: wastedyears

Cuba is a fascist dictatorship of white people suppressing a population that is almost 3/4 black.

But the left is OK with that because Castro claims to be a communist.


24 posted on 07/23/2007 10:29:25 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: wastedyears
I hate hate hate the Dewey Decimal System.

Do you prefer the Library of Congress classification system?

25 posted on 07/23/2007 10:30:02 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

I’m not familiar with it, but it’s probably better than having the DDS ingrained into you when you’re 8 years old.


26 posted on 07/23/2007 10:37:10 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: goldstategop

When my computer broke down, I stopped at the library to read Free Republic. Couldn’t, as it was filtered out along with porn. I kicked and scratched for awhile and they finally made FR available.


27 posted on 07/23/2007 10:42:23 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: aegiscg47

“I do tech support for a university library and I have never seen a group of more conniving, plotting, scheming, petty, and vindictive set of people than librarians!”

I’ve had contact with several fantastic librarians in my day, but the library sounds like a great setup for a petty tyranny.


28 posted on 07/23/2007 10:49:28 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: weegee
Even when books are gifted they aren’t always shelved.

Most gifted books end up on the book sale tables (unless the library employees want them).

Most gifted books are not library quality (publishers print special books for libraries with special bindings and acid free paper. These books are more durable than the bookstore variety) and there for not considered appropriate for shelving in a library

29 posted on 07/23/2007 10:52:57 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: weegee

Space at the library where I work, which opened in 1959, is limited, so we have to frequently “weed” the collection to make room for new books. Candidates for weeding include books that are worn, damaged, rarely circulate, or contain information that is out of date. Sadly, we have had to weed some conservative books, such as some of William F. Buckley’s works from the 1970’s, but the good news is that we now have room for Ann Coulter, Eric Shawn, and David Gelernter.


30 posted on 07/23/2007 10:55:43 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Veto!
Couldn’t, as it was filtered out along with porn.

I am shocked that your library would filter porn. What kind of despotic place do you live in. (Sarcasm)

Really I thought the ALA was four square against blocking porn.

31 posted on 07/23/2007 10:56:49 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: aegiscg47
"I do tech support for a university library and I have never seen a group of more conniving, plotting, scheming, petty, and vindictive set of people than librarians!"

In the old days librarians saw themselves as servants to learning. Now they see themselves as one step removed from academia and have absorbed all the arrogance and pride that once was reserved exclusively for college professors.

A far cry from the days when librarians were nice ladies of all ages, with their hair in buns and wearing cardigan sweaters with pearl buttons. Now they are embittered feminists with agendas to promote.

Librarians of long ago:

Today's librarian:


32 posted on 07/23/2007 10:58:13 AM PDT by tom h
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To: rhema

American Library Association members calling anyone or anything “FreAdomistas” ? ? ? ?

Make ‘em write “The Spel checquer is my friend.” 100 times.

Apologies to Harry Potter, et al.


33 posted on 07/23/2007 2:28:57 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Pontiac

“Of course Moore knows that if he asks the wrong questions in Cuba he never get invited back.”

How about:
“Of course Moore knows that if he asks the wrong questions in Cuba he never comes back.”


34 posted on 07/23/2007 2:33:40 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

Think “fREADomistas.”


35 posted on 07/23/2007 2:39:31 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: GladesGuru

Gee wouldn’t that be too cool.


36 posted on 07/23/2007 2:56:27 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Think “fREADomistas.”

I’d like to, but I’d think wrong.

Thanks to Liberals and Liberalism, all too many students are graduated (those that actually are graduated, that is) with reading skills far below the norm. Of those who can read, many are functional illiterates.

One can’t be a “fREADomista” when one can’t READ.


37 posted on 07/23/2007 4:14:53 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Billthedrill

Hentoff is prolife based upon civil rights not religious beliefs. He left the ACLU over the issue.


38 posted on 07/23/2007 7:58:10 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat
Yep - he's one of my favorite libruls-with-a-conscience. He wrote Free Speech For Me, None For Thee about the censorship he saw on the Left. Great stuff.
39 posted on 07/23/2007 8:21:32 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Veto!

“..I stopped at the library to read Free Republic. Couldn’t, as it was filtered out along with porn.”

I tried to read Free Republic in a number of countries in the UK. Normally, the computer would freeze up and the only way it would work again was for a cretin from the establishment to come and re-boot it. I tried at a couple of libraries, at a McDonald’s and at a few other places - no joy.

FR was on their banned list.


40 posted on 07/23/2007 9:02:24 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Xenalyte
Me, I prefer the Library of Congress system.

Back in the Dark Ages, in my college days, I spent a lot of time working in the university library. I was told then that the selection of LC vs Dewey Decimal was based on the number of books in the total catalogue. Makes sense, as LC is waaaay more granular. With it, you get a place for each individual book.

Keeping the books on the shelves in the right order with LC was bad enough. I couldn't have imagined the task with Dewey.

41 posted on 07/24/2007 6:21:16 AM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: WarEagle

As far as I know, the only major academic library that still uses Dewey is at the University of Illinois.


42 posted on 07/24/2007 6:46:03 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: tom h

Eratosthenes--A Librarian of
Long, Long Ago

43 posted on 07/24/2007 6:55:01 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Veto!

When you find FR filted, see how they handle sites like DUh and DailyKaOS


44 posted on 07/25/2007 6:45:57 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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