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Class War: MySpace Vs. Facebook
Forbes.com ^ | 07.23.07 | Claire Cain Miller

Posted on 07/23/2007 11:46:59 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

Social Networking

Class War: MySpace Vs. Facebook

Claire Cain Miller 07.23.07, 6:00 AM ET

A flurry of recent articles have observed that young people are leaving MySpace for Facebook in droves, setting off speculation that MySpace is becoming the latest victim of fickle teens following the hot new thing.

Not so, says University of California, Berkeley, researcher Danah Boyd. Not all teens are leaving MySpace, she wrote in a recent essay--instead, they're splitting up along class lines.

Boyd confirms what teens in any high school across the country already know: Affluent kids from educated, well-to-do families have been fleeing MySpace for Facebook since it opened registration to the general public in September, while working-class kids still flock to MySpace.

That could have big implications for advertisers targeting the coveted teenaged population online, three-quarters of whom have a profile on a social network. Both sites have been powerhouses for advertisers because of their huge, wide-reaching audiences, says Robin Neifield, chief executive of interactive marketing agency NetPlus Marketing. That strategy could change if the sites become more like the niche social networks popping up across the Web for groups of like-minded people from similar backgrounds.

Boyd's essay came amid speculation about the future of the social network giants. Despite the fact that MySpace still gets more than twice as many unique visitors as Facebook, it's littered with postings announcing that users, often teens, are switching to its rival.

The number of Facebook visitors ages 12 to 17 jumped 149% over the past year, while MySpace lost 27% of teens, according to ComScore Media Metrix. Rupert Murdoch, whose News Corp. owns MySpace, even lamented in an interview that he was losing readers to Facebook. News Corp. is rumored to be considering swapping MySpace for a 25% stake in Yahoo!.

Estimated ad revenue for 2007 calendar year for Facebook is $125 million, $525 million for MySpace, according to research firm eMarketer. Together, the two account for 72% of all online advertising on social networks.

There's a reason why the "goody-two-shoes, jocks, athletes or other 'good' kids" are going to Facebook, says Boyd, who studies social networks and youth culture and made her observations based on formal interviews with 90 teens, informal interviews with hundreds more, and the perusal of tens of thousands of teens' online profiles.

Facebook launched in 2004 as a site for Harvard students. Gradually, it opened up to other college students, then to high school kids if a college student invited them. "Facebook is what the college kids did. Not surprisingly, college-bound high schoolers desperately wanted in," Boyd writes.

MySpace, meanwhile, is the "cool working-class thing" for high school students getting a job after graduation rather than heading to the Ivy League, Boyd writes. Constant local news stories on predators targeting kids on MySpace further alienated the "good kids," she says. Both companies declined to comment on Boyd's essay.

Her analysis could help marketers figure out which sites to target--help she says they desperately need. "Many of the advertisers that I have met are extremely savvy about offline marketing but complete fools when it comes to online marketing," ignorant of who visits Web sites and why, Boyd wrote in an e-mail interview with Forbes. Paying attention to demographics could help. Hot Topic should target MySpace, for example, while J. Crew should focus on Facebook.

"As an advertiser, in my opinion, Facebook users are more qualified to convert and more apt to buy a shirt, so I would go there before MySpace," says Josh Mohrer, director of retail for BustedTees, an online purveyor of hipster clothes and sometime Facebook advertiser.

Facebook can lure advertisers with its affluence, says Bill Tancer, general manager of global research at Hitwise, an online marketing analysis firm. His data backs up Boyd's conclusions that Facebook users are richer than those on MySpace. Still, MySpace attracts so many more viewers that "there's no way marketers are going to leave," he says.

NetPlus chief Neifield says she's not paying too much attention to Boyd's observations. Advertisers should look beyond demographics when placing ads and instead analyze online behavior like who visited other sites with similar content, who downloaded what or who clicked on which ads, she says. "It's not very often these days that we buy based on demographics alone."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: classism; classwarfare; competition; computers; facebook; internet; myspace; networking; technology
Class warfare between Facebook and MySpace.

Who could have figured?

1 posted on 07/23/2007 11:47:06 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

Boyd confirms what teens in any high school across the country already know: Affluent kids from educated, well-to-do families have been fleeing MySpace for Facebook since it opened registration to the general public in September, while working-class kids still flock to MySpace.

Poor kids still write on walls with spray paint, so what?!?!?!


2 posted on 07/23/2007 11:48:59 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Facebook at least has order and privacy settings, whereas Myspace is...like a border town without a Sheriff.


3 posted on 07/23/2007 11:50:55 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: DogByte6RER

bttt


4 posted on 07/23/2007 11:55:28 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Get Away from the Blind Side of Life--S.R. Vaughn)
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To: DogByte6RER

Teens were not the original customers of Myspace. It was an 18+ site until “Tom” got ready to sell it (first soliciting Viacom before finally selling to NewsCorp).

Today Myspace is overrun with advertising (and promotional accounts of every stripe whether it be a store, a band, a company...).

It’s like trying to draw some social distinction between a hotmail account and a gmail account. There is none.


5 posted on 07/23/2007 11:55:38 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: weegee
It’s like trying to draw some social distinction between a hotmail account and a gmail account.

Come on. Gmail is much more upscale than Hotmail.

6 posted on 07/23/2007 12:01:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DogByte6RER

MySpace is utter chaos. Facebook is user-defined chaos.


7 posted on 07/23/2007 12:06:48 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Third rule is: Don't talk to commies.)
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To: DogByte6RER

And both sites are absolutely worthless.


8 posted on 07/23/2007 12:14:36 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DogByte6RER

How long before the Supreme Court requires busing of accounts from Facebook to My Space?


9 posted on 07/23/2007 12:19:07 PM PDT by gridlock (Righty Tighty / Lefty Loosey)
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To: DogByte6RER

I have discussed this topic of My Space vs Facebook with my 20 year old son who is heavily involved in Music(i.e. plays in several bands and has recorded in Nashville.) He says that My Space is primarily for musicians and people who follow bands, etc to network, display their music and share info about their Bands and concert dates etc.


10 posted on 07/23/2007 12:20:59 PM PDT by Desparado
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To: Desparado

A lot of bands do use it for that. However, I much prefer purevolume.com for bands. Less chaos, more user-friendly, and more professional looking.


11 posted on 07/23/2007 12:23:04 PM PDT by ncdrumr
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To: DesScorp

Not necessarily I use Facebook to keep up with friends from College after I graduated in 2006/..


12 posted on 07/23/2007 12:24:57 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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To: gridlock

LOL.


13 posted on 07/23/2007 12:25:55 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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To: DesScorp

Disagree. I use facebook to stay in touch with folks whom I have not seen since middle and elementary school!


14 posted on 07/23/2007 12:35:13 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: DogByte6RER

Um, aren’t they both free (shows how much I know)?

How does Facebook keep out the “riff raff”?


15 posted on 07/23/2007 12:37:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ( Hunter 2008)
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To: DogByte6RER

Like DU vs. WA?


16 posted on 07/23/2007 12:37:34 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: DogByte6RER
"MySpace, meanwhile, is the "cool working-class thing" for high school students getting a job after graduation rather than heading to the Ivy League, Boyd writes."

Right, because there is no in between.

17 posted on 07/23/2007 1:00:56 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: rabscuttle385

Myspace has privacy settings.


18 posted on 07/23/2007 1:01:44 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: rabscuttle385

“Facebook at least has order and privacy settings, whereas Myspace is...like a border town without a Sheriff.”

You say that like it is a bad thing.


20 posted on 07/23/2007 1:39:44 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: John Williams

Gmail is pretty good about spam - better than a paid Verizon account, for example. You just have to assume that Google will violate your privacy.


21 posted on 07/23/2007 2:10:31 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: rabscuttle385
Facebook at least has order and privacy settings, whereas Myspace is...like a border town without a Sheriff.

I don't know much about either, but a friend invited me to sign up on facebook and I did. First thing I noticed is it lists every small detail you do in your public profile page. I edited my hometown and it reports that in my profile.

Now I come across this today.

Within the last 10 days, more than 50,000 Facebook members have signed a petition objecting to the new program, which sends messages to users’ friends about what they are buying on Web sites like Travelocity.com, TheKnot.com and Fandango. The members want to be able to opt out of the program completely with one click, but Facebook won’t let them.

I haven't used the account I opened since the day I opened it, but as far as facebook...so much for privacy.

23 posted on 11/30/2007 12:24:35 AM PST by Zack Attack
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I haven't used the account I opened since the day I opened it, but as far as facebook...so much for privacy.

As a user, I can fine-grain my news feed settings but the new Beacon technology is unsettling. 'Tis a pity that Mark Zuckerberg continues to alienate the core constituency of facebook: college students.

24 posted on 11/30/2007 4:44:27 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * UVA Engineering * Today, we are all Hokies. Even at UVA. 04.16.07 * Fred 2008)
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To: weegee

Weegee: pot, kettle, my friend!!!!

One thing I like about Myspace is that I can just add any band I like as a friend and get a notice when they go on tour, when they have a new record out, etc.

And also, to find out what the hipsters are doing every night in Houston!

:-)


25 posted on 11/30/2007 8:02:45 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: weegee

hey, I just realized you posted this back in July.

heh!


26 posted on 11/30/2007 8:44:34 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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