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Cessna unveils SkyCatcher details
Witchita Business Jourlan ^ | 7/23/07 | Ken Vandruff

Posted on 07/23/2007 2:07:32 PM PDT by Domandred

The Model 162 SkyCatcher will be Cessna Aircraft Co.'s entry in the Light Sport Aircraft category.

Cessna made the announcement and rolled out a full-scale mockup Sunday during the opening day of the Experimental Aircraft Association's annual convention in Oshkosh, Wis.

The two-seat airplane has an initial price of $109,500 for the first 1,000 airplanes ordered, then the price will be $111,500.

Keeping the airplane in the $100,000 range was one of the goals set by Jack Pelton, Cessna chairman, president and CEO, during the program's development. Cessna announced its LSA program during the 2006 EAA convention and has been soliciting customer opinions before making the decision to proceed with production.

The airplane will cruise at 118 knots (136 miles per hour) with a maximum range of 470 nautical miles. The SkyCatcher has a maximum gross weight of 1,320 pounds and carries 24 gallons of fuel.

Cessna plans to build 700 airplanes a year once the assembly line reaches full production by 2011. Company officials hope the new airplane will be attractive to flight training schools as well as light sport aircraft enthusiasts.

The airplane will be certified under American Society for Testing and Materials regulations rather than the Federal Aviation Administration, although Cessna plans to conduct many of the tests required for FAA certification.

The company plans to certify the SkyCatcher in the first half of 2008 with first customer delivery scheduled in 2009.

Cessna is at the top of the Wichita Business Journal's 2007 list of the area's largest employers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aerospace; cessna; chat; oshkosh; skycatcher
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Cessna Skycatcher Official Site

Sorry big pics


1 posted on 07/23/2007 2:07:35 PM PDT by Domandred
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To: Domandred

beautiful plane.........wow


2 posted on 07/23/2007 2:09:57 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Domandred

Sweet!.......my fav colors too!.....


3 posted on 07/23/2007 2:09:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Domandred

bugsmasher, flycatcher, skycatcher. what’s the difference?


4 posted on 07/23/2007 2:10:13 PM PDT by paddles
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To: paddles

“bugsmasher”

Is it really big enough??


5 posted on 07/23/2007 2:12:30 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Red Badger

111k seems unbelievable . for a new plane that is awesome


6 posted on 07/23/2007 2:12:40 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Domandred

In 1981 I bought a “new” (it had 300 hours on it) 1980 Cessna Turbo Centurian T210 for $108,000.

It had six seats and would cruise over 180 Knots. It had a range of 750 Nautical miles.

My how times have changed.


7 posted on 07/23/2007 2:13:48 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: paddles

BugSmasher


FlyCatcher


SkyCatcher

Does that help clear up the confusion? :-)

8 posted on 07/23/2007 2:15:56 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: Domandred

—how will they make it lawyer-proof?—


9 posted on 07/23/2007 2:16:14 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Domandred

Not much for 100K. Except for the electronic instrumentation it looks like it could have been designed in the 1940s. All metal, strut wings, carbureted engine, fixed spring gear, almost vertical windscreen...these guys need to get to Oshkosh more often.


10 posted on 07/23/2007 2:18:48 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: TChris
Except that ain't a bugsmasher.

www.windnwings.com/Aircraft/Museum_Aircraft/RC-45J/rc-45j.html

11 posted on 07/23/2007 2:20:45 PM PDT by norton
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To: Aeronaut

Ping


12 posted on 07/23/2007 2:21:28 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: Domandred

Who’s the Photoshop whiz?

Put the blue screen fatal error on those two displays and a snow-capped mountain in the foreground, please.


13 posted on 07/23/2007 2:21:30 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: advertising guy
FYI..probably about $20k of that $111k goes for product liability insurance premiums and reserve funds..

BTW..Totally off topic, but seeing your screen name, have your seen "Mad Men"

14 posted on 07/23/2007 2:22:51 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: All

It seems rather underwhelming.

By now it should be something a little more substantive looking. It just seems like a cleaned up version of the old piper cub.

Not exactly a babe magnet.


15 posted on 07/23/2007 2:23:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Old Professer

That, and animate it so the “1200” flashes!


16 posted on 07/23/2007 2:25:29 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Without the fence, deporting illegals is like shoveling water.)
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To: Domandred
Nother interior shot:


17 posted on 07/23/2007 2:28:20 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Domandred
Cessna's worried about this, the Toyota TA-1 (built by Scaled Composites as a prototype), which if it made production would cost an estimated $80K.

Cessna's already under pressure from Honda in the very light jet segment.

18 posted on 07/23/2007 2:29:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Yikes. It does look better too.

What is cessna thinking?


19 posted on 07/23/2007 2:36:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Domandred

Looks like the old Aerobat.


20 posted on 07/23/2007 2:37:41 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Domandred

Small airplanes are to doctors as tornados are to trailer parks./snic


21 posted on 07/23/2007 2:37:53 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: ken5050

only in tv teasers and that looks childish , crass ,
and a venue to stage a sex in the city in suits to me.


22 posted on 07/23/2007 2:43:59 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy

True..that’s the state of TV today. I watched the first show..and it’s a well done flashback to the 50’s..kind of an R rated “Man in the Grey Flannel Suit”


23 posted on 07/23/2007 2:47:11 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

cigarettes and open handed grab ass

more like Nip/Tuck


24 posted on 07/23/2007 2:49:12 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Domandred
How much with an attached parachute?:’) (Reading the name, I thought that was what this would be)
25 posted on 07/23/2007 2:50:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: advertising guy

That I never saw...”Rescue Me” is more my style on FX


26 posted on 07/23/2007 2:51:34 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: grjr21; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

27 posted on 07/23/2007 2:53:53 PM PDT by Aeronaut (Hebrews 13:4)
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To: longtermmemmory
The US general aviation industry is in the same place that Detroit was in the 1970s and early 80s. Fat, dumb, happy, and arrogant. And infested with idiot unions.

Which would you rather have bought in 1983 - this:

Or this:

Yeah, that's the same situation today - same old stuff tarted up, or something totally new.

28 posted on 07/23/2007 2:55:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rellimpank

Interesting question.
I am a pilot who lives on a private airpark about 30 miles south of Piper aircraft in Vero Beach Florida.
& years ago I asked someone who works there why a piper J 3 cub costs 138,000 dollars as it hasn’t changed on bit in 50 years. Still thirty years ago you could get one for about 20,000 dollars.
He said they still could produce one for about 30 or 35 thousand dollars but had to charge 138,000 dollars.
The difference going directly into a slush fund to pay off future lawsuits and lawyers.
Folks would crash and die and their spouses would sue Piper instead of say the mechanic that screwed up. Or maybe even the Pilot.
Piper doesn’t produce J-3 s any more just much more expensive craft.

A jury would award stupid amounts for a guy earning 30,00 a year to his family.


29 posted on 07/23/2007 2:55:34 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: ken5050

I’m all in on J A G.I love all the characters and the constant dig to Clinton


30 posted on 07/23/2007 2:55:46 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Domandred

It’s really cute!! Look at that nifty modern instrument panel. Where’d all the instruments go? Gone with room left for cup holders! Students don’t even have to sit with a wrinkled chart on their lap any more?


31 posted on 07/23/2007 2:59:28 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Joe Boucher
--lawsuits were the reason for the demise of the domestic small plane business--every crash resulted in a huge settlement , no matter what the cause.

By the way, there isn't enough money on earth that would entice me to live in that humid dump of a state of yours---http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1869454/posts

32 posted on 07/23/2007 3:02:20 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Spktyr

Was that with or without their converted V8? :-).....


33 posted on 07/23/2007 3:06:18 PM PDT by taildragger
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To: taildragger

The biggest engine the X11 variant of the Citation ever had was a 2.8L V6 (not related to the V8). And it was a FWD lead sled that tended to spin out of control when braking hard.


34 posted on 07/23/2007 3:12:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Red Badger
That is a nice paint job, but I want one dressed up like this or Dallas Cowboys colors. I have almost $1,000.00 I can put down on one of these.
35 posted on 07/23/2007 3:17:23 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: Spktyr
Spktyr,

Not the Citation, I mean the Toyota aircraft, yes they were working on a converted Lexus V8 for Aircraft use.

36 posted on 07/23/2007 3:19:21 PM PDT by taildragger
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To: Spktyr
I sorta like this one with the bubble canopy.


37 posted on 07/23/2007 3:19:27 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: CHEE
I have almost $1,000.00 I can put down on one of these.

It might get you a ride in one.......

38 posted on 07/23/2007 3:19:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Domandred; Prokopton
Shades of the 152 in which I first started my flight training!

I'm confident that Cessnas' entry will go a long way in legitimizing the LSA (Light Sport Aircraft) movement and raise the bar in terms of quality.

The 'bird' looks pretty substantial compared to some of the other fabric-covered 'kites' LSA's I've seen first hand. I'd trust it.

Though $100K, its' not out of line with the rest of todays possessions (just got my house appraised - $550K!!) and is NEW!

Could be a far more econimical "$100 Hamburger" flight, and, if an IFR-version is offered, a less expensive proficiency platform.

I'll wrangle a hop with the local Cessna dealer when it arrives...

39 posted on 07/23/2007 3:21:01 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: taildragger

They originally were going to fly it with the converted V8, but Toyota killed off the “Aero Lexus” project. The TA-1 flies with a Lycoming engine, IIRC.


40 posted on 07/23/2007 3:23:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Domandred

Which is going to keep it out of range for the average buyer ... but still plenty of 150/152’s around ....


41 posted on 07/23/2007 3:25:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Sweet Blessed Mother of Acceleration, Don't Fail Me Now!")
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To: GoldCountryRedneck
The 'bird' looks pretty substantial compared to some of the other fabric-covered 'kites'

Hey...easy on the tube and fabric "Kites":)

I'm building a tube and fabric "kite" that'll sport an 0-540 and pack 1200-1300lbs of usefull load while without leaving utility catogory ...and still smoke everything this side of a -206. Steel is good.

But you are right about legitimizing LSA, and if they stay at 111K for another 5 years they'll start to become a descent value.

Might be worth a lease back to an FBO if the tax writeoffs still work.

42 posted on 07/23/2007 3:34:47 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: rellimpank

>>
—how will they make it lawyer-proof?—
<<

Why do you think a $30,000 airplane sells for over $100,000?


43 posted on 07/23/2007 3:38:29 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Spktyr

I used to think that Chevy naming a car after a traffic ticket (Citation) was the stupidest thing until I realized they for years lost out to Ford in the Central American Markets with their NOVA (literally named “NO GO!”) to the Ford Falcon..

The 1980+ Chevy Citation was a first effort at modern fwd ,, it was terrible ,, the interior was typical GM ,, bad plastics held together with superglue ,, the steering rack was located improperly (later corrected) and caused unintentional lane changes when the engine cradle shifted under torque load.. The 2.8 was weak weak weak ...

The Cavalier was worlds better (and that’s not saying much).


44 posted on 07/23/2007 4:00:57 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Aeronaut

Thanks for ping. I want one!


45 posted on 07/23/2007 4:01:34 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Aeronaut

Thanks for ping. I want one!


46 posted on 07/23/2007 4:01:36 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: rellimpank

I have lived around the country and in Asia.
My likes are flying, scuba diving and offshore and inshore fishing.
I also ride a Harley Davidson.
Can’t do that any other place.
In Calif. it is too expensive. I live in the country but close enough that i can go to town.
Hot and Humid? Yeah but not like Atlanta or many places in the south.
And not a blowtorch like the south west.
Folks aren’t as nice as in the midwest but about as crappy as in the north east.


47 posted on 07/23/2007 4:03:05 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Spktyr

I forgot about the brakes ,,, the problem was common on most FWD’s ,, the rears did so little work that it was hard to get the balance right,, especially as the fronts would change grip as they warmed up and the rears never warmed...


48 posted on 07/23/2007 4:04:28 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Dead Dog

Hey...easy on the tube and fabric "Kites":)

Yeah, ya' got me. A 540-powered anything isn't a 'kite'!

Think my bias stems from a trip up in a friends' Rotax- powered Kitfox. The foothill turbulence bounced us all over the place! Quite a ride.

We also have quite a few ultra-lite flyers up here. Even one gent with a powered parachute.

no way!!!

49 posted on 07/23/2007 4:22:55 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Joe Boucher
Joe, that means we are neighbors.

I live in PSL, and I'm an instructor.

I haven’t done any instructing since Pan Am moved out of KFPR, but I still keep one PA28-151 that I tinker with on weekends while thinking about going back into business someday.

Interesting that Earl Hough just sold the Jet Center FBO - and the Tiki.

Do you live out on Aero Acres?

50 posted on 07/23/2007 4:40:46 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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