Posted on 07/24/2007 8:56:30 AM PDT by drzz
"The US intelligence agencies have seen WMD's in a Saddam's military parade in January 2002, WMD's which have not been found after the war." Richard Miniter, intelligence expert ("Iraq had WMDs" in 22 myths that undermine the war on terror, p. 104)
Where are the trucks with the big missiles we see in this propaganda video of the Saddam's era ? There are extracts of many videos, but the footage about WMDs was made after 2002 - it is too good to have been made in the late 90's of before.
It is probably the parade Miniter is talking about : the one of January 2002.
The long-range missiles pictured were forbidden by the UN and could have been filled with chemical and biological germs, like the Iraq Survey Groupd stated (see Duelfer report, "chemical section").
Apparently, the truth about the WMD’s is far worse than the flack the Bush Admin took for their supposed non-existence.
The major question that seems to be lost on everyone is, “Was Saddam trying to rearm or not”? The answer is, “There is no doubt that he was”.
I agree.
When the Israelis attacked Lebanon during the Summer 2006 war, they bombed the south and Beyruth...
But also the Bekaa valley, which is not supposed to contain anything special...
Actually it is there where most of Saddam’s WMDs are supposed to have been stocked.
See the map of the war :
http://www.debka.com/pictures/Lebanon.jpg
Yes but you have footage here showing a truck with a big long-range missile forbidden by the UN parading on the Iraqi main street probably in 2002.
It is clear Saddam HAD REARMED.
See the post above. The Israelis thoughly bombed the Lebanon’s Bekaa valley in 2006.
The valley is not supposed to contain anything special... except that a syrian dissent told Holland’s Telegraaf that the Syrians had buried Saddam’s WMD’s there.
Saddam was not on good terms with the Saudis or Turks or Iranians and the Baathists ran both Iraq and Syria which they still control.
While WMD were not the sole reason we got involved there,
and all of the OTHER reasons, taken together, justified our actions in Iraq, the traitors in America and the Democrats - who are essentially the same thing - have zeroed in on this issue as a critical one regarding our involvement there.
Why on earth the administration hasn;t pursued this issue is beyond me, aside from their record ineptitude in communicating with the American public and on foreign policy matters.
Gee, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld seemed awfully sure about where they were before we invaded.
Why not ask them?
I also think they’re in Syria. Or rather, that’s where they went shortly before we began the war. Who knows where they’ve been secreted away to now.
I think you are accepting the conventional wisdom here when you should be thinking a little deeper. Govts have always kept secrets when the truth was worse.
I remember that Reagan was also portrayed as 'inept' and was quite content to let his enemies believe that. I can assure you that the administration isn't 'inept'. They simply allow that perception to persist because it is in their best interest to do so.
Think about it.
A syrian dissent was sure the Syrian secret services had buried them in the Bekaa Valley.
In one of the best book about the Middle East conflicts, sources say the holes were 6 meters long and 20-35 meters deep. They were built by the Syrian engineers.
The WMD’s were buried between January 10-March 10 2003. Syria was paid 35 million $ for this.
It seems to me that the Israelis targeted the Bekaa valley in 2006 for this...
In a Newsweek photo, I saw a Roland missile booster that had a 2000 or a 2001 lot number on it. He was not supposed to have that. The liberals don’t like to discuss that nor the tons of HMX and RDX explosives we found. Any time you question them when they say he was not rearming they turn around and say he had the right to defend himself. Trying to explain logic to a liberal is like trying to explain ugly to a frog.
YOSSEF Bodansky, ex-director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare :
The most authoritative account of Saddam Hussein’s support for Islamic terrorist organizations — including extensive new reporting on his active cooperation with al-Qaeda in Iraq long after the fall of Baghdad /
Extensive new information on Iraq’s major chemical and biological weapons programs — including North Korea’s role in building still-undetected secret storage facilities and Iraq’s transfer of banned materials to Syria, Iran, and Libya / Revelations about the direct involvement of Osama bin Laden in the terrorism campaigns in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the Middle East — including the major role played by Iran and HizbAllah in al-Qaeda’s operations
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Iraq-Yossef-Bodansky/dp/0060736798
AND THE MSM IS SAYING THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!!!
Agree. As long as we have seen NO evidence of the destruction of the WMDs the UN reported in 1998 and was looking for, those WMDs are at large.
“Why on earth the administration hasn;t pursued this issue is beyond me, aside from their record ineptitude in communicating with the American public and on foreign policy matters.”
Well, I have my own point of view about that. The US establishmen has buried everything related to Iraq because most of the US Congress and the former US government of Clinton were toughly fucked by Saddam Hussein :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwD3DCiIpO8&eurl=
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1sx7x_saddams-secrets_news
“They simply allow that perception to persist because it is in their best interest to do so.”
It is the best interest of Bush senior, Clinton, and Congress.
Bush and Cheney are the only guys in town who seem to say the truth but are surrounded by the old dark deeds of Washington between 1990-2002.
Remember the years 1990-2002 : they were the weakest for the security of the US in a century.
PING
GOSH
THEY ARE !!
For the upcoming war with Israel !!
In my opinion and based on three particular documents that I read; I think that these precursors required to build the Chemical Weapons are hidden in the Anbar province. The documents even name the locations where these precursors are possibly buried.
There is a crude hand drawn map of the Iraqi WMD locations - two sites in Syria and one or two in the Bekaa valley. I'm sure it must have been posted on FR - or at least one of the Iraqi war blogs.
It was drawn either by an Iraqi or a Syrian defector.
Anybody got a copy they can post.
Truck convoys to Syria were reported at the beginning of the war. I have no idea why the Bush admin doesn’t say this every day. Are they really afraid of Syria?
http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd.html
I don't recall them saying they knew where they were. I do recall that the UN inspectors had obtained records from the Saddam regime that showed the production of 1000s of tons of anthrax, sarin, and XV. The Bush Admin did mention that and that the Saddam regime had not verified the destruction of those WMDs.
Do you have a link to a source that says the Bush Admin knew exactly where the WMDs were located?
Bush’s readiness to cover for the Clintons and the Congress is perplexing.
The polls indicate the unwashed masses have been brainwashed by the media harlots into thinking our involvement in Iraq can be simply terminated by pulling out with little or no consequences to us. The prostitutes in Congress are dancing to this tune. There is a very real danger that either Congress will cut off funding to the Iraqi operation or that the public reaction to the same will adversely impact the Republicans in 2008.
It would behoove the Administration to come clean with as much ammunition as possible to blow the Dems out of the water and justify our continued presence there.
I have trouble wrapping my head around what could actually be worse than allowing this particular instance of secrecy to damage civilian support for the war, prolong it for the US military, and undermine the country's moral authority.
Who are we actually protecting? France? Germany? Russia? The Clintons? The State Department? The CIA?
Protecting people that spend their days actively plotting the administration's downfall hardly makes any sense here on my planet.
You assume that 'blowing the Dems out of the water' is the admin's goal. I'm saying it aint'.
First noticed that when Reagan had the perfect opp to do the same thing to the Dem's over the Contra's and didn't.
Some larger plan is afoot and it prolly ain't good for America.
Simple. An incompetent American means that a One World gov't is needed, nay *required*.
What we HAVE seen and were recovered was brnd new chemical suits, decon unit, and chemical detection equipment. This is a pretty good indicator that there were chemical weapons somewhere.
Well, I think Reagan had to deal with a hostile COngress at the time of Iran-Contra. The press and media had tried to crucify him because COngress had passed some idiotic law about not helping the anti-Sandanistas, so they had to launder money to do it.
Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
Thanks for the reply. He sure did say it. That was not smart.
You're welcome.
Yeah, you're still thinking that politics is 'real'. It isn't.
FDR said, "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
He was in a position to know and it's all politics. Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Nixon, LBJ; all of it.
Below your map are a bunch of other maps pertaining to WMD locations.
Click on "Read Article" link in red just above your map to get English translation of the text below map plus some other interesting stuff on WMD's.
http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd.html
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