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City Offers ID Cards to Illegal Immigrants
AP via AOL News ^ | July 24, 2007 | John Christoffersen

Posted on 07/24/2007 9:20:16 AM PDT by FoxInSocks

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (July 27) - This city is becoming the first in the nation to offer identification cards to illegal immigrants, trying to bring them out of the shadows even as many municipalities crack down on them.

Beginning Tuesday, New Haven will offer the ID cards to all of its 125,000 residents, including some 10,000 to 12,000 illegal immigrants.

The cards will allow immigrants to open bank accounts and use other services that may be unavailable without driver's licenses or state-issued IDs. If they can open bank accounts, immigrants will be less likely to carry large amounts of cash, a practice that makes them easy targets for robbers.

City officials say the cards will also encourage immigrants who are crime victims or witnesses to cooperate with police.

"The simple straightforward purpose here is to build a stronger community," Mayor John DeStefano said Monday. "You can't police a community of people who won't talk to our cops."

Opponents say the cards will encourage more illegal immigration.

"It's going to be a welcome mat for illegal aliens to come to the region, flood the labor market and dry up working-class and middle-class jobs," said Bill Farrel, coordinator of the Southern Connecticut Immigration reform.

DeStefano said that wasn't true.

"Work draws it, not a piece of plastic," the mayor said.

He said the federal government has failed to address immigration-related issues, forcing cities to find ways to manage them.

The ID cards stand in contrast to new laws or proposals in more than 90 cities or counties around the nation prohibiting landlords from leasing to illegal immigrants, penalizing businesses that employ them or training police to enforce immigration laws.

New Haven already offers federal tax help to immigrants and prohibits police from asking about their immigration status. The new ID cards cost $5 for children and $10 for adults.

Days after city officials approved the program, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents conducted raids that led to about 30 arrests. City officials said the raids appeared to be retaliatory, but ICE officials have said the raids had nothing to do with the city's approval of the ID program.

They would not comment on the prospects of more raids.

"ICE is mandated by Congress to enforce a wide range of immigration and customs laws and we will continue to enforce those laws in Connecticut and throughout the U.S.," the agency said in a statement.

DeStefano acknowledged that some immigrants may be reluctant to apply for an ID card because of the raids, but predicted most will still seek the ID cards.

Junta For Progressive Action, an advocacy group for Latinos, quickly ran out of 50 applications for the cards on Friday, executive director Sarahi Almonte said.

"The benefits outweigh the risks," she said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigrantlist; newhaven
The accompanying poll question is "Do you think it's a good idea to offer ID cards to illegal immigrants?"

Even on liberal AOL, after 20,000-plus votes, 80 percent say no, it is not a good idea.

1 posted on 07/24/2007 9:20:20 AM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: FoxInSocks

This might be a handy time for all of us to swing by New Haven and pick up a second identity.


2 posted on 07/24/2007 9:24:08 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: FoxInSocks
They need to change their city slogan to:

"New Haven: Our Stupidity Is Boundless"

3 posted on 07/24/2007 9:24:56 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: taxed2death

Hey! GOod thinking. I need one for tickets.


4 posted on 07/24/2007 9:25:49 AM PDT by Fawn (I don't know what to put here anymore.....let me think awhile......)
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To: FoxInSocks

What’s to stop Johnny Jihad from walking up and grabbing an ID card and thus allowing him access to everything legal citizens have?

How does this sit with that nitwit Chertoff and “Homeland Security”?

I wonder what Jorge thinks of this in regards to his WOT?

What about our nations “top cop” Gonzales? Where does he weigh in on this?

Crickets.........................


5 posted on 07/24/2007 9:28:09 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: FoxInSocks

I’m still waiting for a city or town to pass an ordinance that basically says,
“Fully automatic machine-guns are perfectly legal here, regardless of federal law.”


6 posted on 07/24/2007 9:31:59 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: FoxInSocks
He [the mayor] said the federal government has failed to address immigration-related issues, forcing cities to find ways to manage them.

New Haven already...prohibits police from asking about their immigration status.

What a two-faced hypocrite -- complaining about lack of federal enforcement while at the same time refusing to assist that enforcement.

There's a simple way to ensure that everyone in the community talks to the police (if indeed this is the real reason for the ID cards): discourage those who have some reason not to talk to the police from living there. How difficult a concept can this be?

7 posted on 07/24/2007 9:33:09 AM PDT by Emile (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. --Plato)
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To: FoxInSocks
Do you think it's a good idea to offer ID cards to illegal immigrants?"

Actually, I think it's malfeasance!

8 posted on 07/24/2007 9:35:53 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: FoxInSocks
"ICE is mandated by Congress to enforce a wide range of immigration and customs laws and we will continue to enforce those laws in Connecticut and throughout the U.S.," the agency said in a statement.

Can ICE get access to the list of people applying for these cards? Could be a good way to track down illegals.

9 posted on 07/24/2007 9:39:56 AM PDT by DejaJude
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To: FoxInSocks

It is a good idea if the destruction of New Haven is your goal.


10 posted on 07/24/2007 9:44:49 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: FoxInSocks

Is the card good in Cheshire, CT? The city where a family of 4, 3 were killed lived.


11 posted on 07/24/2007 9:47:58 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: FoxInSocks
"You can't police a community of people who won't talk to our cops."

Then how about giving bank robbers the keys and combinations to all the bank vaults in CT?

12 posted on 07/24/2007 10:02:18 AM PDT by lowbridge (A Gun A Day Keeps The Government Away)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


13 posted on 07/24/2007 10:07:08 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: FoxInSocks

All Federal funding should be brought to an immediate halt here. (Of course we all know that won’t happen.)

The best that can come of this, is that the illegals will leave the state with Sheriff Joe, and begin their trek up north.


14 posted on 07/24/2007 10:11:35 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

New Haven will be wrecked in the next 12 months : )


15 posted on 07/24/2007 10:35:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: lowbridge

“Then how about giving bank robbers the keys and combinations to all the bank vaults in CT?”

Yes! It will cut down the violent crime rates!!

: )


16 posted on 07/24/2007 10:37:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: FoxInSocks
trying to bring them out of the shadows

Ok. Right. That's where I can tell there is no need to read another word. Just another apology piece.

17 posted on 07/24/2007 10:38:38 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: FoxInSocks

Hmmmm.....I guess even the CT state laws get *overlooked* in New Haven.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=805&q=244772

“Note: If you are not a citizen of the United States, you will be required to show proof of your legal status in this country.”


18 posted on 07/24/2007 10:42:13 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

New Haven’s last attempt to dish out the cards ended up in a massive INS raid that took more than 30 people out of their homes and tossed them back into Mexico.

The aliens would be stupider than stupid if they went to the office for the card this time.

As a side note, DeStefano was OUTRAGED when the fed came in and rounded up those with the cards.

I work in New Haven, and this is just the start of problems here.

But as another sidenote, the murders that happened in Cheshire are something that should be given more attention. Bristol, Meriden, and middletown are towns that are RIDDLED with violent crimes. Bridgeport used to be #1 in the nation for crimes and violence, but these areas of CT are quickly making Bridgeport look almost pleasant.

I gotta get outta here. Anyone need an I.T. Director ?


19 posted on 07/24/2007 10:42:37 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: stephenjohnbanker
New Haven will be wrecked in the next 12 months : )

more likey only in *9* months

20 posted on 07/24/2007 10:44:38 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: FoxInSocks

Bienvenidos a todos mojados y illegales!!!!


21 posted on 07/24/2007 11:19:03 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: txdoda

: )


22 posted on 07/24/2007 12:39:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: tiger-one
Is the card good in Cheshire, CT? The city where a family of 4, 3 were killed lived.

Honestly, what does what happened in Cheshire have to do with New Haven? It wasn't even illegals who committed the crimes.

23 posted on 07/24/2007 12:46:02 PM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan)
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To: Celerity

“I gotta get outta here. Anyone need an I.T. Director ?”

1) You MUST get out of there

2) FR should have a site for FReepers who need jobs.


24 posted on 07/24/2007 12:58:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Fawn

Don’t use the name “Jose Cuervo” cuz I want to use it. I’m not sure if I’ll use the train station or the post office for my address.


25 posted on 07/24/2007 1:23:07 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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To: CT-Freeper

Not too far from New Haven. Pick any city in CT, and ask yourself will the card be good say in New London?


26 posted on 07/24/2007 2:21:44 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Celerity
Anyone need an I.T. Director?

What are you doing in Connecticut? Everyone knows all IT comes from India and those that aren't should be "retraining". By the new definition your expectation of earning enough to get by makes you one of those "unwilling to do jobs others are willing to do". Can you put aside your dignity and pride, learn to use government services for what you used to pay for and consistently garble intricate concepts over the phone?

27 posted on 07/25/2007 12:19:28 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Got out of IT for work as a scarecrow...couldn't be happier)
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