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No Charges for Hurricane Katrina Doctor Accused of Murdering Patients
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| 7/25/07
| John Jalsevac
Posted on 07/25/2007 4:17:23 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: ClearBlueSky
“There has been talk”
That is what serious murder charges are based on? “Talk”?
81
posted on
07/25/2007 6:21:02 PM PDT
by
hophead
("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
To: wagglebee
.
WaggleBee,
The doctor and nurses were NOT deliberately trying to "murder" the patients ...
Had "deliberate murder" been their goal, they would have put a 45 to the patients heads, and pulled the trigger ...
Or even better yet, the doctor and nurses would have SIMPLY LEFT THE HOSPITAL and ABANDONED the patients.
If it would have been one of my parents, or children, perhaps terminally ill in that post-Katrina New Orleans HELLHOLE (where I lived for 20 years) ... I would have felt much better knowing that my family member's suffering from Unbearable Pain, in the face of certain death ... was minimized ... and that the doctor's "extra" dose of pain medication would be "quite" acceptable.
BTW. I'm a Christian, too ...
Patton-at-Bastogne
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82
posted on
07/25/2007 6:21:24 PM PDT
by
Patton@Bastogne
(Can a Romantic "Fields of Dreams" ever be Resurrected ?)
To: Mamzelle
I'm a lawyer and I would not take her business. But then I have ethical standards. And I know that a jury will not go for what she's selling.
Answer these questions for me:
Did they administer lethal doses of drugs or not? Yes or no?
Did these lethal doses of drugs cause the patients' death? Yes or no?
Were these lethal doses of drugs given in order to cause or hasten death? Yes or no?
Was there a lack of consent from the patients to use lethal doses of drugs? Yes or no? (I suppose that some were unable to consent due to their condition.)
If the answer to these questions is "yes," then I call it murder, not matter what justification the doctor has about how horrible the conditions were.
83
posted on
07/25/2007 6:22:02 PM PDT
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: ClearBlueSky
“A REAL bias against the sick elderly DOES exist in the medical community. I have had first hand experience with it. Past a certain age( even in normal conditions) the elderly are seen as less valuable and worthy of medical care.”
Wait until the Leftards get what THEY want with “national health care”. This will be standard procedure.
84
posted on
07/25/2007 6:23:45 PM PDT
by
hophead
("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
To: hophead
Yes, any doctor who claims the right to kill me is going to have problems with me.
85
posted on
07/25/2007 6:24:55 PM PDT
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: hophead
You must be quoting from the Bostol Legal episode.
To: Mamzelle
There has been talk that a phonecall was overheard ORDERING
It is kind of amazing how 'selective' those phones in New Orleans could be on whether or not they wanted to work after the storm. They must have been offered some sort of electronic post-storm welfare.
87
posted on
07/25/2007 6:26:38 PM PDT
by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: hophead
I understand your frustration but I think it is pointless to argue with these people screaming “MURDER”. The healthcare providers did the best they could in a horrible situation. My heart goes out to them and their families. How awful for them to now be forced to defend their actions. Calling them “murderers” is a far greater sin than anything they have been accused of.
To: ClearBlueSky
“Of course she walked- just exactly like the common, everyday thug who has killed on the street but isnt prosecuted for lack of evidence and witnesses”
That is just a wrong and unfair analogy. What the hell happened to innocent until proven guilty? You too seem to be able to see into the heart and mind of those you accuse of murder. That is truly sad.
89
posted on
07/25/2007 6:28:13 PM PDT
by
hophead
("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
To: ClearBlueSky
your post obviously shows you have no knowledge of medicine, caring for terminal patients, pain management or how a hospital is run in normal times and in crises.
therefore, I dismiss your Rant.
90
posted on
07/25/2007 6:29:23 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(The truth about men who watch or set up dogfights.......they can't get it up !)
To: Iwo Jima
Almost all drugs are either dangerous or lethal.
Pain medications can, under certain circumstances, hasten death.
No, they were not given with the intent of hastening death. They were given in the knowledge that they MIGHT hasten death. This is the reality of pain management.
As for consent, how about "get me out of this pain"?
As I am not under oath, nor under instruction from a judge, I don't have to answer the questions the way you want them answered.
91
posted on
07/25/2007 6:29:56 PM PDT
by
Mamzelle
(Down with Mel Martinez)
To: hophead
Answer these questions for me:
Did they administer lethal doses of drugs or not? Yes or no?
Did these lethal doses of drugs cause the patients' death? Yes or no?
Were these lethal doses of drugs given in order to cause or hasten death? Yes or no?
Was there a lack of consent from the patients to use lethal doses of drugs? Yes or no? (I suppose that some were unable to consent due to their condition.)
If the answer to these questions is "yes," then I call it murder, not matter what justification the doctor has about how horrible the conditions were.
92
posted on
07/25/2007 6:30:57 PM PDT
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: Iwo Jima
“But then I have ethical standards.”
Ethical standards? Kind of like Uday Hussein’s “ethical standards”?
93
posted on
07/25/2007 6:32:23 PM PDT
by
hophead
("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
To: P-40
LOL!!!!
More rants from the hysterical. Freeper has intelligent, rational posts...and then there are wacko, unintelligble posts. such is life. Enjoyed your sense of humor.
94
posted on
07/25/2007 6:32:26 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(The truth about men who watch or set up dogfights.......they can't get it up !)
To: Mamzelle
Pretty lame. It’s real clear to me that the doctor gave lethal doses of pain medication to kill the patients, not to control their pain, and without their knowledge or consent. That makes her a murderer, and you support that. So what does that make you?
95
posted on
07/25/2007 6:33:31 PM PDT
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: Iwo Jima
Now I understand Iwo Jima. “I’m a lawyer”. No more to say.
96
posted on
07/25/2007 6:34:11 PM PDT
by
hophead
("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
To: Patton@Bastogne
Please answer these questions for me:
Did they administer lethal doses of drugs or not? Yes or no?
Did these lethal doses of drugs cause the patients' death? Yes or no?
Were these lethal doses of drugs given in order to cause or hasten death? Yes or no?
Was there a lack of consent from the patients to use lethal doses of drugs? Yes or no? (I suppose that some were unable to consent due to their condition.)
If the answer to these questions is "yes," then I call it murder, not matter what justification the doctor has about how horrible the conditions were.
97
posted on
07/25/2007 6:35:17 PM PDT
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: Iwo Jima
Okay, MAYBE I will believe you are a lawyer.
doubtful, considering your rationales.
If you are a lawyer...you understand NOTHING about medicine and pain management...the other atty would wipe you out in 10 minutes. go back to real estate law.
98
posted on
07/25/2007 6:35:34 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(The truth about men who watch or set up dogfights.......they can't get it up !)
To: Mamzelle
A year after state Attorney General Charles Foti ordered the arrests of Dr. Anna Pou and two nurses on second-degree murder charges, the strange case drags on -- into the state and local election seasons. By Jason Berry Photo by Donn Young "One year is too long without justice and resolution. ... I witnessed firsthand their unwavering dedication and Herculean effort to save lives." Kathy Green, a nurse who spearheaded a support group for nurses Lori Budo and Cheri Landry The crowd of several hundred that spilled out of the Peristyle at City Park for a 6 p.m. rally last Tuesday was every politician's dream: well-dressed, educated, sprinkled with nurses in green scrubs, doctors fresh from their rounds -- and not a major elected official in sight. The rally supporting Dr. Anna Pou marked the one-year anniversary of state Attorney General Charles Foti's famous press conference in Baton Rouge, carried live on CNN, in which he accused Pou and nurses Lori Budo and Cheri Landry of second-degree murder in the deaths of several patients at Memorial Medical Center, where the women worked in war-camp conditions during the harrowing days after Hurricane Katrina. Signs posted on columns and held aloft in the audience said a lot -- "Dr. Pou we are with you." "Heroes Not Criminals." "Jordan and Foti Gotta Go." After his news conference in Baton Rouge, Foti held what he no doubt hoped would be a celebratory fundraiser in a downtown New Orleans hotel. Public backlash was quick and decisive against the AG, however, by which time he had already handed the case off to New Orleans District Attorney Eddie Jordan, in whose jurisdiction the deaths occurred. With a staff beleaguered by surging drug homicides, Jordan moved slowly in taking the case to a grand jury. http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2007-07-24/news_feat.php
99
posted on
07/25/2007 6:36:13 PM PDT
by
1COUNTER-MORTER-68
(THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
To: Mamzelle
Amen! Nice to see there are a few logical heads on this thread. Pain management in the country has become damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
If a grand jury would usually indict a ham sandwich and they DIDN’T INDICT in this case, doesn’t that just scream that THERE WASN’T A CASE! (I’m not shouting at you, Mamzelle, but the idjits here who jump on every thread and parrot “culture of death, culture of death” without knowing squat about the situation and are totally ignorant of healthcare).
100
posted on
07/25/2007 6:36:19 PM PDT
by
Spyder
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