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Four endangered gorillas found shot dead 'Huge loss' for population that numbers just 700
MSNBC ^ | 7/26/2007 | MSNBC

Posted on 07/26/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Three female mountain gorillas and a male silverback gorilla were found shot dead this week inside a national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a conservation group said Thursday.

The bodies were discovered inside Virunga National Park but it was unclear who killed them and why, the International Gorilla Conservation Program said in a statement.

"Just over 700 mountain gorillas survive in the wild today, and none exist in captivity," the group said. "For such a small population, the unnecessary and indiscriminate killing of four mountain gorillas is a huge loss."

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KEYWORDS: africa; animalrights; environment; gorillas; looniesoutinforce; societalvalues; values
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1 posted on 07/26/2007 10:56:29 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA
Three female mountain gorillas and a male silverback gorilla were found shot dead this week inside a national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a conservation group said Thursday.

How many abortions were performed 'this week'?

Don't see that in any news reports.

2 posted on 07/26/2007 10:58:29 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: Red in Blue PA

On the whole, Africa would be a lot better off if all the humans were replaced by gorillas.


3 posted on 07/26/2007 10:58:58 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Silverback
Silverback ping
4 posted on 07/26/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Red in Blue PA

I shot the gorilla, but i did not shoot the chimpanzee


5 posted on 07/26/2007 10:59:54 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Inquisitive1

Wow. So after every piece of news is presented to you you ask the same question? Abortion is wrong. So is the slaughter of innocent creatures.

Sad that you are wholly a one-issue person.....I have not lived the longest amount of time, but I do know that the world has more than one issue.


6 posted on 07/26/2007 11:00:38 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hard to see why anyone would kill them. But then this is Africa where they kill humans for no reason.


7 posted on 07/26/2007 11:01:07 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Red in Blue PA
"The bodies were discovered"

Intersting choice of words there. I bet if this were deer on the side of the road, the choice would have been "carcasses".

8 posted on 07/26/2007 11:02:50 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Red in Blue PA
The killings follow three others this year. Two silverback male gorillas were shot dead in the same area of the park. The skin of one of the dead gorillas was recovered from a latrine in a nearby camp of rebels fighting the government, the IGCP said.

They went through the effort to skin it, then threw the skin in a latrine.
9 posted on 07/26/2007 11:02:52 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Is that ever the truth. Isn’t the latest figure that 50+% of Africans in certain areas are infected with aids?


10 posted on 07/26/2007 11:03:12 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Gorilla warfare?


11 posted on 07/26/2007 11:04:58 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“..inside a national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo..”

It’s the “democratic” part that should always be distrusted. Oh man, you better put your flak jacket on because of your statement regarding Africa.


12 posted on 07/26/2007 11:05:03 AM PDT by 353FMG (America, first, last and always.)
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To: Inquisitive1

Don’t hijack the thread.

If you want to talk about abortion go start a thread about abortion.


13 posted on 07/26/2007 11:05:25 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Cindy Sheehan for Congress! Because...well...just because!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’d like to say I care, but I don’t. They’re just animals, after all.


14 posted on 07/26/2007 11:05:45 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Inquisitive1

How many abortions were performed ‘this week’?
__________

The sportswriters also failed to note how many abortions were performed this week when I was looking over last night’s baseball scores. And not one mention of abortion in the entire article relating to Cal Ripken’s impending inauguration into the HoF. Nothing in the stock reports, either. Or the movie listings. The comics. The crossword puzzle and the sudokus were absent that info also. I believe Planned Parenthood is behind all of this.

What is this world coming to?


15 posted on 07/26/2007 11:09:11 AM PDT by dmz
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To: IronJack

So when there are no more animals on the planet, only people, you will be happy?


16 posted on 07/26/2007 11:09:52 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: IronJack

Got pets?


17 posted on 07/26/2007 11:10:04 AM PDT by dmz
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To: IronJack

Michael Vick, is that you?


18 posted on 07/26/2007 11:11:00 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dmz

I certainly hope he doesn’t.


19 posted on 07/26/2007 11:11:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA
There are people who expect great apes to go extinct within a century (excluding humans, which Macroevolutionists consider also be great apes).

If chimpanzees lifespans could be drastically reduced, they could be farmed and they'd be a valuable source of meat. (sort of an aside).

20 posted on 07/26/2007 11:13:46 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“”Just over 700 mountain gorillas survive in the wild today,..”

How can the be so sure?

On another note, 4/700=0.57% So, 0.57% is a hugh and series hit! I hope nobody moves my cheese!


21 posted on 07/26/2007 11:14:18 AM PDT by CSM ("The rioting arsonists are the same folks who scream about global warming." LibFreeOrDie 5/7/07)
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To: Inquisitive1

Every time an anti-abortion fanatic makes an irrelevant post on FR, God kills a fetus.


22 posted on 07/26/2007 11:15:55 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Red in Blue PA
It is very hypocritical that a lot of animal conservationists and tree huggers (for non-rational reasons, so excluding those who view it from a stable ecosystem angle) are abortionists.

In inherent value, one human is worth more than all the other carbon-based life on the planet.

23 posted on 07/26/2007 11:16:36 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Inquisitive1

and none exist in captivity,”

Well, there is the problem.


24 posted on 07/26/2007 11:16:49 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Good point.


25 posted on 07/26/2007 11:17:13 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: CSM

Gotcha. Wanton slaughter of animals is totally OK, and a source of jokes, if you take 0.57% or less.


26 posted on 07/26/2007 11:17:50 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
The slaughter wasn't necessarily wanton; it was probably by poachers who killed the animals to sell to foreigners (Asians for medicine or Westerners for novelties). They were just driven off before they could take their kill.
27 posted on 07/26/2007 11:23:11 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t get this. I hope these folks rot in Hell.

I really don’t understand killing whales, gorillas, etc. I’m not against killing animals for food, but there is a line not to be crossed...like killing rhinos and elephants for their tusks. Disgusting.


28 posted on 07/26/2007 11:23:46 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t get this. I hope these folks rot in Hell.

I really don’t understand killing whales, gorillas, etc. I’m not against killing animals for food, but there is a line not to be crossed...like killing rhinos and elephants for their tusks. Disgusting.


29 posted on 07/26/2007 11:23:53 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Re: If chimpanzees lifespans could be drastically reduced, they could be farmed and they’d be a valuable source of meat. (sort of an aside).

That is sick no matter how you cut it. Not to mention not at all relevant to the issue being discussed.


30 posted on 07/26/2007 11:23:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: cowtowney

I don’t get it either. Nor do I understand the people who post here and make jokes about it.


31 posted on 07/26/2007 11:25:00 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: dmz; Inquisitive1
The sportswriters also failed to note how many abortions were performed this week when I was looking over last night’s baseball scores.

How many deaths of any kind were lamented by the writer of those scores?

And not one mention of abortion in the entire article relating to Cal Ripken’s impending inauguration into the HoF.

Did the writer imply a tragedy over any kind of death in the Cal Ripken story?

Nothing in the stock reports, either.

Did they report on any deaths of people or animals in the stock report?

Or the movie listings. The comics. The crossword puzzle and the sudokus were absent that info also.

Same question, Did they shed a tear over the death of puppies or gorillas or other animals? No? Well then pay attention next time before you make inane comments that make you look foolish.

32 posted on 07/26/2007 11:25:16 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

The slaughter wasn’t necessarily wanton; it was probably by poachers who killed the animals to sell to foreigners
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Oh. Well that changes everything. Kill away!

I especially like how you underscored the word ‘animal’. Just in case I wasn’t sure that gorillas are not humans, eh?


33 posted on 07/26/2007 11:27:33 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Re: The slaughter wasn’t necessarily wanton; it was probably by poachers who killed the animals to sell to foreigners (Asians for medicine or Westerners for novelties)

Ahh, so that is okay! Glad you cleared that up./extreme sarcasm


34 posted on 07/26/2007 11:29:17 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Well then pay attention next time before you make inane comments that make you look foolish.
______________

LOL. You should take a bit of your own advice. We have a story in front us about the poachers killing gorillas, and one, now maybe 2, thread hijackers who want to talk abortion.

Of course my comments were foolish. They were supposed to be. What’s your excuse?


35 posted on 07/26/2007 11:29:51 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Red in Blue PA
...Sad that you are wholly a one-issue person.

Your youth shows.

36 posted on 07/26/2007 11:30:02 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: ElkGroveDan

His comments were dead on. The fact that you are unable to grasp what he was saying only makes you appear foolish.


37 posted on 07/26/2007 11:31:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Artemis Webb
No 'hijacking' intended.

Just a statement of what seems important to the press.

38 posted on 07/26/2007 11:31:32 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Take it that you're one of those people who consider great apes to be practically human (or already 'people')?

The great apes, and whales, and dolphins, and other such creatures, are animals (not humans, not people).

They shouldn't be wantonly killed (not murdered), but they can be killed to provide sustenance or even clothing (though not such a supporter of the fur trade--leather comes from animals that would be killed, anyway, though).

A chimpanzee steak is not more offensive than a beef steak (or a whale one), in that a chimpanzee is not a higher creature than a bull.

And as the "(sort of an aside)" suggests, that comment wasn't very relevant, but it was minorly relevant. Furthermore, it wasn't an isolated comment; the preceding sentence was relevant to the topic at hand.

39 posted on 07/26/2007 11:32:47 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: kinoxi

Souinds to me like the paochers were “surprised” by the authorities. They tossed the evidence in a place many would not want to “search”.


40 posted on 07/26/2007 11:32:54 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Inquisitive1

Ever hear of the expression “white hair does not engender wisdom”?


41 posted on 07/26/2007 11:33:33 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA
No they weren’t. That the liberal press continues to lament the death of animals with great sadness while human babies are being slaughtered every day with very little comment is cause for that question to be asked over and over again.
42 posted on 07/26/2007 11:33:35 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: dmz
Of course my comments were foolish. They were supposed to be. What’s your excuse?

It's a good question. Why do we constantly get emotional tear-jerker stories about soul-less animals being killed, when thousands of innocent human babies are being slaughtered every day with not the slightest mention.

43 posted on 07/26/2007 11:36:00 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
If chimpanzees lifespans could be drastically reduced, they could be farmed and they'd be a valuable source of meat. (sort of an aside).

Because chimpanzees are so closely related to us and because they therefore host diseases and parasites which specialize in large primates like chimps and humans, this is a spectacularly bad idea.
44 posted on 07/26/2007 11:37:11 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dmz
Are you?

You seem to be placing these animals on a higher level than they deserve.

Contrary to what you posted, it is relevant that these animals may not have been wantonly slaughtered: if it was by poachers trying to make a little money (it doesn't even have to be a poacher trying to make a little money to help his starving, impoverished, AIDS ridden family full of little children) then it isn't wanton, and your use of the term is misleading.

45 posted on 07/26/2007 11:37:28 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
If they were farmed, it is probable that they wouldn't be as diseased as wild chimpanzees.

And it is because they are so similar to humans that they'd be such a valuable source of meat; the body would have less work set out for it to turn the food into muscle and other things which keep humans functioning).

46 posted on 07/26/2007 11:40:08 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Wow. So after every piece of news is presented to you you ask the same question? Abortion is wrong. So is the slaughter of innocent creatures.

If Bush had controlled the borders, those gorillas would still be alive. /one-issue-poster

47 posted on 07/26/2007 11:40:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

As a matter of law and depending upon one’s ethics, a chimp may not be a “higher” animal than a cow. Whatever you mean by “higher”. But there are many to reasons to feel that chimps are much closer to men than cows are.

But why limit our considerations to two mammals? Would it also be fair to say that dogs are no “higher” than earthworms? How about dolphins and planaria? Parakeets and starfish?


48 posted on 07/26/2007 11:40:41 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

My view of religion is close to that of Leo Tolstoy.

As such, to be consistent in my beliefs, I am a vegetarian and do not use or wear leather.


49 posted on 07/26/2007 11:42:50 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: r9etb

Bush lied. Gorillas died.


50 posted on 07/26/2007 11:43:08 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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