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Hungarians test eastern Europe's gay taboo
Scotsman ^ | Wed 25 Jul 2007 | Krisztina Than

Posted on 07/26/2007 12:28:57 PM PDT by lizol

Hungarians test eastern Europe's gay taboo

By Krisztina Than

BUDAPEST (Reuters) - "I am Gabor Szetey. A faithful Hungarian-European. Citizen, public official, member of the government. And gay."

Of all the arenas in which a senior government politician could come out, Szetey's choice -- two days before a Gay Pride march earlier this month in post-communist eastern Europe -- was one of the most defiant.

Hungary's Secretary of State for Human Resources risked hostility because he wanted to highlight persistent intolerance, not just of gay people, but also of other minorities, in eastern Europe.

After decades under communist rule when homosexuality was banned or simply out of sight, most east Europeans still find it hard to accept. The lack of tolerance has been coupled with a surge in nationalism in some parts of the region.

"I think my coming out took so long partly because I was 22 in 1990," Szetey told Reuters. He blamed the communist regime -- which collapsed in 1989 in Hungary -- for the fact many still keep their homosexuality secret.

"Until I turned 22, I thought I was an alien."

Only the Czech Republic and Slovenia have legalised registered same-sex partnerships, none of the former communist states allow same-sex marriages, and some have no laws protecting sexual minorities from discrimination.

"This is a very serious issue for this region," said Szetey, who lived in New York and Buenos Aires before coming home and taking the government post last year. "Dealing with all minorities, be it ethnic minorities ... or the whole Jewish issue, or the gay issue."

Two days after his speech, participants of the annual Budapest Gay Pride parade were pelted with eggs and only a heavy police presence prevented violence as about 200 mostly far-right demonstrators protested against it.

"I was not afraid because the police were there, lots of police, but when they disappeared and three steps from me these people shouted 'dirty faggot', well that was scary," said Andras Varkonyi, 28, a psychology graduate.

SIN

"There is still quite a serious lack of understanding not only in the political elite but also in general society," said Juris Lavrikovs, communications officer of the European section of the International Lesbian and Gay Association.

Although homosexuality is now legal in neighbouring Romania, which joined the EU this year, many people accept the powerful Orthodox church's view of homosexuality as a sin and a disease.

Thousands were jailed in Romania during the rule of communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu after a 1968 ban.

In June police detained dozens of protesters as hundreds tried to break up a gay rights march in Bucharest.

In strongly Roman Catholic Croatia, only few homosexuals have come out and most still lead a double life.

Poland has come under fire from EU lawmakers, who singled it out in a resolution condemning homophobia in the 27-nation bloc.

The nationalist League of Polish Families party, a junior coalition partner in the cabinet, has proposed a law to sack teachers who promote a "homosexual lifestyle" and wants a law banning "homosexual propaganda" in schools.

When asked how he would react if someone in the government came out as gay Roman Giertych, Poland's deputy prime minister, leader of the party and minister of education told Reuters:

"I would react with joy, on the condition that the person was not in my party."

LONG WAY TO GO

Hungary still has far to go in giving gay relationships equal rights: a Eurobarometer survey showed last year that while 52 percent of Czechs agreed that same-sex marriages should be allowed in Europe, in Hungary this number was only 18 percent.

In a further protest at discrimination, two Hungarian lesbian women on July 14 held an unofficial marriage ceremony by the Danube river in Budapest.

The junior Hungarian coalition party, the liberal Free Democrats, has proposed a bill to allow same-sex marriages which may lead to a compromise by allowing registered same-sex partnerships, as in the Czech Republic.

"I really opened up in New York where Gay Pride meant that several hundreds of thousands of people marched: it was a carnival, a huge party where families joined with their kids to have fun and educate their kids about tolerance," Szetey said.

"I will be the happiest if I don't have to speak about this issue any more. If I have to, I will."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; hungary; poland

1 posted on 07/26/2007 12:28:59 PM PDT by lizol
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

2 posted on 07/26/2007 12:31:34 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol
I am Jason. A faithful American. And sex with my wife several times a week.
3 posted on 07/26/2007 12:32:14 PM PDT by Jaysun (Certified thread hijacker since 7-7-07 (by restornu and blu))
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To: lizol

Until I turned 22, I thought I was an alien.”


and now he thinks he is normal...............


4 posted on 07/26/2007 12:32:23 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: lizol
Another Jim McGreevy moment...

Barf...

5 posted on 07/26/2007 12:32:54 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: lizol

Budapest is one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been. The public bathhouses (no, they’re not like the ones that were shut down here in the first days of the HIV/AIDS epidemic) are the most soothing places I’ve ever been.

That being said, I didn’t encounter a very vibrant gay community when I toured there. Not to say it wasn’t


6 posted on 07/26/2007 12:34:55 PM PDT by notbackingdown
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Well, let’s send Rosie O’Donnell over there to persuade everyone to celebrate diversity.


7 posted on 07/26/2007 12:35:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: lizol

His name is “Gabor”?


8 posted on 07/26/2007 12:36:08 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: lizol
I actually don't mind there being more gay Hungarian men......that hopefully will translate into more single Hungarian wimmin!!!

No disrespect intended to my American Sisters, but Hungarian women are some of the hottest chicks I've seen.

9 posted on 07/26/2007 12:38:28 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: lizol
"I will be the happiest if I don't have to speak about this issue any more.

Then shut up about it!

The problem with "unrepentant" degenerate homo reprobates is simple.. they stir up too much crap!(figuratively and literally)

10 posted on 07/26/2007 12:39:52 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (If my replies are short & sweet I'm texting from my cell phone and I'm all thumbs...)
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To: lizol

odd how these articles are always written in a way to imply the homosexuals have the correct social stance.

it is never written to show how their true destructive nature and drain on society.


11 posted on 07/26/2007 12:41:40 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lizol

See story above: “Alexander is charged with aggravated sexual battery, forcible sodomy and custodial indecent liberties with a child.”

Get back in the closet or, preferably, crawl back under your rock.


12 posted on 07/26/2007 12:44:38 PM PDT by Adder (hialb)
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To: lizol
"I will be the happiest if I don't have to speak about this issue any more. If I have to, I will."

Lot's house is being surrounded.

13 posted on 07/26/2007 12:45:36 PM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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To: lizol

“Hungary’s Secretary of State for Human Resources risked hostility because he wanted to highlight persistent intolerance, not just of gay people, but also of other minorities, in eastern Europe. “

A deviant engaging in such behavior is not an ethnic minority, but a deviant, sodomite, queer, fecal-obsessionist, faggot, etc, but certainly not an ethnic minority.


14 posted on 07/26/2007 12:50:49 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: lovecraft
Yes, Hungarian women being quite prominent in certain movies you can easily download online. (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

I know of one very beautiful Hungarian lass who is unfortunately a Jehovah's Witness, and will not marry outsideo of her faith.

15 posted on 07/26/2007 12:53:58 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza
That's too bad, I'm married myself now, but I remember the year I was in Budapest in the 90's. OMG, even the non-supermodel ones would put the majority of English women to shame.

Didn't know about the....ahem.....movies. I have to be good anyway. (sniff)

16 posted on 07/26/2007 1:07:19 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: lizol

Gays are soooooo yesterday’s news. Who cares?


17 posted on 07/26/2007 1:07:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iranian designers held a fashion show - Surprise! For the 5,000th time, burqas were "in"...- Conan)
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To: lizol

Hungary is one messed up country.


18 posted on 07/26/2007 1:26:07 PM PDT by JRochelle (WalMart's 'Great Value' brand to be renamed, to be called the 'Great Wall' brand.)
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To: notbackingdown
Did you ever go to the Hotel Gellert with the hot springs under the Hotel? I visited Budapest in 1984 while the Soviets were still in town.
19 posted on 07/26/2007 1:27:19 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

No, but from the sounds of it I wish I did. I was there in ‘04. Closest we got to the Communist-era was the Statue Park where they stored all the propaganda sculptures that once littered the city. Saw travelguru Rick Steves there! lol The employees seemed like they were just as cranky as they may have been while living under the Reds.

Greetings, fellow Georgian!


20 posted on 07/26/2007 2:45:10 PM PDT by notbackingdown
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To: lizol

Are we sure these guys can’t breed true? The number of gays has quadrupled in just the last 20 years or so.


21 posted on 07/26/2007 2:54:02 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
The number of gays has quadrupled in just the last 20 years or so.

Do what????

22 posted on 07/26/2007 9:02:54 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (If my replies are short & sweet I'm texting from my cell phone and I'm all thumbs...)
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To: notbackingdown

When I visited Budapest in 1984, we were told that Hungary was allowing more private businesses. Apparently Hungarians have a reputation for commerce. The food was excellent in Hungary. We liked the people.


23 posted on 07/27/2007 5:15:56 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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