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Senate approves more money for border control
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^ | Thu Jul 26, 2:12 PM ET | By Donna Smith

Posted on 07/26/2007 2:36:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly voted to provide an additional $3 billion in emergency spending to beef up border security after lawmakers failed earlier this month to enact broader immigration reforms.

The Senate voted 89-1 to add the money to a homeland security spending bill for next year currently being debated. Republican sponsors said the money could help lay the groundwork for a broader immigration overhaul that could address the status of an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.

"It will make it easier to go to the next step," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican.

The money would help hire more border security agents and purchase vehicles, cameras and radio towers that mostly would be used to help stem the flow of illegal immigrants over the U.S. border with Mexico.

Some of the money could also be used to help law enforcement officials track down immigrants who failed to abide by deportation orders.

These and other enforcement measures had been part of a broad immigration overhaul backed by President George W. Bush. That bill, which would have legalized millions of unlawful immigrants, faltered in the Senate in the face of stiff opposition from some Republicans who considered it an amnesty that would encourage more illegal immigration.

"One of the things that those of us who supported immigration reform learned was that the depth and breadth of cynicism about the government's commitment to enforcement is an impediment to comprehensive reform," said Sen. Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican who helped write the comprehensive bill.

Bush has threatened to veto the $37.6 billion homeland security spending bill for fiscal 2008, which starts on October 1, because it is about $2.5 billion more than he sought. The border security money was added as an emergency item on top of that amount.

Graham and others argued it would help strengthen Republican support for the bill, making it more difficult for Bush to reject.

Besides money for border protection, the bill also funds a range of post-September 11 domestic security programs, including more money for airport and port security as well as grants to states and local governments to prepare for terrorist attacks or natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina, which devastated southern states in 2005.

The Senate is expected to vote on the homeland security spending bill soon. A similar, slightly less expensive bill already has passed the U.S. House of Representatives. The two chambers will have to work out their minor differences before sending a bill to Bush.

(Additional reporting by Richard Cowan)


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; bordersecurity; congress; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; sellouts; shamnesty; traitors
Are they running scared or is this a post-defeat attempt to prove they were "serious" about border security?

Either way, no Z-Visa boys and girls. That's for certain.

1 posted on 07/26/2007 2:36:33 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle; VOA; Diogenesis; blam; Jeff Head; JeffAtlanta; LibertyRocks; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
"It will make it easier to go to the next step," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican.

Next step, eh, Grahamnesty?
2 posted on 07/26/2007 2:38:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle


Protestors hold hands across a bridge between the Texas town of Roma and the Mexican town of Miguel Aleman to show their opposition to a planned border security wall along the U.S./Mexico border, July 14, 2007. The Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly voted to provide an additional $3 billion in emergency spending to beef up border security after lawmakers failed earlier this month to enact broader immigration reforms. (Christina Cameron/Reuters)
3 posted on 07/26/2007 2:39:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Anyone who trusts these traitorous RINOs is a fool.

WHY DO THEY NOT DEMAND THE LAW BE ENFORCED NOW?


4 posted on 07/26/2007 2:40:02 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: F15Eagle
"One of the things that those of us who supported immigration reform learned was that the depth and breadth of cynicism about the government's commitment to enforcement is an impediment to comprehensive reform," said Sen. Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican who helped write the comprehensive bill.

Kyl, you're a trickster sellout just like Graham and not to be trusted.
5 posted on 07/26/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Hope their arms get cramped : )


6 posted on 07/26/2007 2:40:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: F15Eagle
Thats Great.

So when is my fence going to be finished?

7 posted on 07/26/2007 2:42:30 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: Diogenesis

Agreed. They can not be trusted and with these two, Kyl and Graham being quoted, you can bet some other scheme is being cooked up. Prepare for battle.


8 posted on 07/26/2007 2:42:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

About the same time McCain becomes President ... IOW, never, if we leave them in charge of it ...


9 posted on 07/26/2007 2:43:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Given that none of them actually reads these bills, it probably actually mandates the Border Patrol to invade Mexico and kidnap every man, woman and child and drag them to the States. To pick lettuce.


10 posted on 07/26/2007 2:45:06 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

Time to post this link again ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdxI0zClV_Y

(it’s Lou Dobbs so be forewarned if ya don’t like Dobbs on this stuff)


11 posted on 07/26/2007 2:48:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

They appropriated money for a fence too but very little fencing money has been spent.

They may have so many stipulations on the money that it may be impossible to use the money for it’s alleged purpose.

Just because they say money is available don’t mean they are going to turn it loose. I think this is a wax on glass solution.


12 posted on 07/26/2007 2:50:11 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: F15Eagle

Conservatives gained great strength mobilizing the public against AMNESTY, this is a continuation of that great effort. Kudos to all who helped are in order.

The defense of freedom, it never ends.


13 posted on 07/26/2007 2:51:29 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: F15Eagle
I vote they take the $3 Billion and use it to

enforce existing laws!

14 posted on 07/26/2007 2:52:38 PM PDT by upchuck (The Hildabeaste fears Fred.)
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To: F15Eagle

The MSM completely ignored, once again, the prime mover of this bill.

DUNCAN HUNTER!!!


15 posted on 07/26/2007 2:55:14 PM PDT by airborne (ATTENTION PA FREEPERS !! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: upchuck; Tarpon; 3AngelaD

Amen. Stop it again and let’s get Lindsey Graham un-elected next year. Even a monkey dancing to an organ-grinder would be more trustworthy with this nation’s future.

This particular monkey does nothing but eat cheese and surrender. And lie to us all the time.


16 posted on 07/26/2007 2:55:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Any bets on how many decades the White House can take to spend the money?


17 posted on 07/26/2007 2:55:52 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: F15Eagle

Who’s the one senator that voted against it?


18 posted on 07/26/2007 2:56:04 PM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: counterpunch

good question ...


19 posted on 07/26/2007 2:56:30 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle
Only 13 miles of the border fence completed so far.

Finish the fence,crack down on business's hiring illegals,cut off government programs that aid illegals,enforce current illegal immigration laws,deport illegals,then maybe,maybe we will talk about AMNESTY.

Oh wait,if they did all that there would be no need for AMNESTY.

20 posted on 07/26/2007 2:57:21 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: All

Another episode in the ongoing saga of creating the illusion that our government is serious about securing the border.


21 posted on 07/26/2007 3:03:05 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: counterpunch

“Who’s the one senator that voted against it?”

Voinovich.


22 posted on 07/26/2007 3:04:58 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: F15Eagle
The Senate voted 89-1 to add the money to a homeland security spending bill.

Be proud people we are wining, but be vigilant or they will attempt to tie this to some form of amnesty.

23 posted on 07/26/2007 3:06:25 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: usurper

yes, if Kyl and Graham are acting happy something is up, I do believe, by their many past actions.


24 posted on 07/26/2007 3:10:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: EEDUDE
Thanks.
This is the only article I've found that names Voinovich as the vote against.
It seems to be conspicuously missng from other reports.

 
25 posted on 07/26/2007 3:13:12 PM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: F15Eagle

“Next step, eh, Grahamnesty?”

He can’t give it up.

Actually it’s wrong. Bush calculated correctly that the only way in hell it could pass if it was coupled in a confusing cloud of “comprehensive” clutter.


26 posted on 07/26/2007 3:15:28 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: counterpunch
From that Chron.com article:

The amendment, offered by South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham and Arkansas Democratic Sen. Mark Pryor, passed on a 89-1 vote. Only Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, objected, arguing that the Department of Homeland Security already is swimming in money to ramp up its immigration enforcement efforts.

 
27 posted on 07/26/2007 3:16:14 PM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: Shermy
if it was coupled in a confusing cloud of “comprehensive” clutter

Agreed. No doubt this is their next strategy.
28 posted on 07/26/2007 3:21:52 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


29 posted on 07/26/2007 3:24:29 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: F15Eagle

Homeland Security? I don’t trust Chertoff with $3 billion. I don’t trust him with $5!

The money has already been set aside for Duncan Hunter’s effective 854 mile long double border fence. Let the building begin!


30 posted on 07/26/2007 3:34:04 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: F15Eagle
The money would help hire more border security agents and purchase vehicles, cameras and radio towers ...

Yes, this is "do anything except something effective, like build a fence."

Spend taxpayer money on "virtual" fencing, buy some new vehicles, put up some radio towers and cameras, but don't actually do something as simple and effective as just putting up a fence.

31 posted on 07/26/2007 3:55:03 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: F15Eagle

I did not hear the short debate on this today but yesterday this was objected to. Cornyn wanted the $3B tied to Visa Overstayers. He and Dirty Harry got in a pi$$ing match last night when the (amendment to allocate the money to a specific purpose was objected to) about not getting along. I thought what I heard this a.m. was that he got that. There probably was some type of exchange because I think they want to add H2 AG visas on Homeland Security also. But I do not know the final outcome. Does anyone on FR know the particulars?


32 posted on 07/26/2007 4:18:18 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: F15Eagle
Three billion is chump change. The new presidential helicopter was supposed to be 6 billion, and it's overrunning that.

A border fence protecting us from chaos and invasion isn't as important as a new toy for the Pres?

Please.

33 posted on 07/26/2007 4:37:49 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: F15Eagle
That's what I thought: Scared for their jobs.


34 posted on 07/26/2007 4:39:41 PM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: F15Eagle
"It will make it easier to go to the next step," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican.

Sounds like a warning to me.

35 posted on 07/26/2007 4:46:37 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

I’ve been watching, or listening to C-SPAN2, most of the day, and so far, other than the petty bickering on procedural issues, I have been pretty impressed the way this bill has been shaping up. It’s the logical first step, and a quarter, heading in the right direction. The First Step has always been about tightening up the border, and this bill does that. There’s also some teeth in it to force employers into verifying their employees. It’s a good start and it appears it will have enough support to override Bush’s threatened veto, which is a must.


36 posted on 07/26/2007 5:30:17 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: snowsislander

The bill builds 700 miles of fence, 300 miles of vehicle barriers, 105 camera survellance towers, adds umpteen thousand border patrol agents, and 1,000’s of detention beds. Hey, if they build a good system, they should only need a couple of beds. They should have them do something constructive, while they are being detained, perhaps a chain gang digging a moat along the border from sea to shining sea. We could upstage the Pamama Canal.


37 posted on 07/26/2007 5:43:11 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: o_zarkman44

The Executive has to spend it. Jorge is “our” Executive and he has been cutting back spending in certain areas.


38 posted on 07/26/2007 5:47:48 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: F15Eagle; All

If you haven’t seen this, Sen. Sphincter is at it again!

“he’s floating a plan that would grant legal status to the nation’s 12 million illegal immigrants, but offer no path to citizenship. “It might be the equivalent of a green card,” Specter said Thursday. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1872158/posts


39 posted on 07/26/2007 6:25:39 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: dynachrome

That Specter is to a “no citizenship” position is huge progress.


40 posted on 07/26/2007 6:32:25 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Dems '08 choices are a Manly woman, a Womanly man, or a Child Senator)
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To: Buzzm1
The bill builds 700 miles of fence

Is that 700 miles in addition to the 700 miles already in the fence bill from last year? I looked at what I could find about this fencing money in today's Senate bill, and it's not clear to me that this is anything in addition to what already was in Representative Duncan Hunter's bill that passed last year. Here's what one article said:

-- Construct all 700 miles of fencing at the U.S.-Mexico border and 300 miles of vehicle barriers.

-- Permit the purchase of four unmanned aerial vehicles to surveil the border region for illegal crossers and add 105 ground-based radar and camera towers integral to the operation of a "virtual" fence.

It sounds to me as if this adds no extra miles of fence to what was already in last year's bill; in fact, that mention of "virtual" fencing makes me think this is not any addition at all to the Hunter fence.

It would delight me if this was money for an additional 700 miles of fence, but somehow I doubt it.

41 posted on 07/26/2007 6:39:13 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: F15Eagle

good link!!!


42 posted on 07/26/2007 6:45:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Yep, everyone concerned about NAU/SPP and shamnesty should watch it. Tell others about it.


43 posted on 07/26/2007 7:10:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: snowsislander

You are right to doubt—not am additional 700 miles of fence. This time they are going to actually build it—last years bill was unfunded.


44 posted on 07/26/2007 7:10:23 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: F15Eagle
I'm skeptical. I don't trust Lindsay Grahamnesty with a 10 foot pole. Beware.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

45 posted on 07/26/2007 7:11:43 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

yep, we cannot trust him at all regarding anything with national security, borders and shamnesty


46 posted on 07/26/2007 7:13:30 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Buzzm1
You are right to doubt—not am additional 700 miles of fence. This time they are going to actually build it—last years bill was unfunded.

Well, here's what Representative Hunter said recently on this:

But 854 miles of double border fence was mandated to be constructed. Homeland Security has a billion bucks, cash on hand. It's been six months, and they've done 11 miles.

So this administration has a case of the slows. And I think they slowed the fence down so that they could come out with the amnesty at the same time, put the two together, and the Bush-McCain-Kennedy bill would then be accepted by conservatives and liberals alike.

I find Representative Hunter a lot more credible on this issue than Senator Lindsey Graham.

47 posted on 07/26/2007 7:22:54 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander

the Final Vote on the Homeland Security Spending Bill was:

89-4 DeMint, Voinovich, Imhofe were 3 of the NO’s

Passed BIG TIME!!!

Get your veto pen out GWB; they are going to override you on this one-—AT LAST.


48 posted on 07/26/2007 8:10:16 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: F15Eagle
A good ol’ Texas Chainsaw should be able to sort this lot out.
49 posted on 07/26/2007 8:11:55 PM PDT by monkeycard
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